Just How Good Are the 2013-14 Rangers?
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Wamsutta
I'm Glen Sather IRL
Individuals look good on paper but team play is far too inconsistent to consider the Rangers a real playoff threat. Defense is still looking confused out there with the man system, which makes Hank look worse than he has been. Nash needs to show up, I feel like that's been a consistent theme since he got here though. Maybe MSL gets Richards into a higher gear, which could help, but not enough in all likelyhood. And good grief, pick one of Carcillo or Dorsett and stick with them, we do not need both in the lineup. My vote is to sit Dorsett.
Stepan isn't getting it done. I wonder what it'd take to land Barkov or Bjugstad. Trading for either would be a gamble, sure, but I'd imagine that either of them would up his production on the Rangers; they're also cheaper than Stepan.
Can we wait until MSL plays more than 1 game and our best forward pre-trade deadline comes back?
This a million times this. They gave up 12 goals in their last 3 games and looked terrible defensively against us, lucky they may have the best goalie in the world. 9 goals against against the Caps and Sabres (!!!!). Yet people are in awe of this team.
Edit: Not sure if they played since us though, I may be wrong.
Smith also had a legitimate reason and legitimate pieces to pursue the WIN NOW mentality in earnest.
I am pissed off because the team philosophy doesn't match the actualities of the roster, and it hasn't for a long time. Whats the point in taking pride in a WIN NOW philosophy when it doesn't work and time just keeps on ticking away?
You really need to take the Rangers glasses off if you think
Stephan is a #1 center in this
League. Those glasses are making Rangers fans very blind when trying to see what this team is about. And when a team is only in the top 8 at the
Moment because they have played more games than the teams just behind them and might find themselves out of playoff position in a few days. Yes they are a bad team.
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I see the potential of a contender in our team. And that we might even be a strong contender this year with a good portion of luck and some stepping up.
We are actually 3rd in the League in shots per game, only trailing Hawks and Sharks. But in goals per game, we are 19th. Imagine if we could shoot a little bit better and have a little bit more luck.
Our team is contenders on paper. Im not quite sure whats missing, but why not? We have shown we are capable to beat several top teams in the league.
Who knows? If others than Boyler steps it up in the off-season, we might have a legitimate shot
We are actually 3rd in the League in shots per game, only trailing Hawks and Sharks. But in goals per game, we are 19th. Imagine if we could shoot a little bit better and have a little bit more luck.
Our team is contenders on paper. Im not quite sure whats missing, but why not? We have shown we are capable to beat several top teams in the league.
Who knows? If others than Boyler steps it up in the off-season, we might have a legitimate shot
Sticky this please. The lack of logic used to decry the loss of these two picks has been astounding...ok not astounding but damn is this a perfect response.
offdacrossbar
misfit fanboy
this team will be fine.
1. if hank cant get back to his old form, were going nowhere. unless we ride an unproven cam talbot. henrik has to be consistently better.
2. we miss zuke. he makes the offense go and makes that 3rd line a formidable matchup problem. hes been arguably our best performer at forward all season. we miss his presence big time. when he returns, we will have better balance.
3. defensively we need to settle down and find 3 pairs that work. mix it up. we need a top pair that can play 25 key mins a game. thats staal and girardi. mcd and stralzie and moore and klein. go with that
4. pp. needs to get going and when zuke returns i think it will take off. msl and zuke should be wonderful together. add nasher and beever and let stralman play the pp point. we need to make teams pay for taking penalties against us.
5. stepan. my onlynegative is his play. hes tooooo slow. play beever with msl and that leaves step out of position. brash may need a look see with nasher. step is just too slow and his playmaking skills seem to have regressed.
i like this roster with a healthy zuke and msl playing key minutes.
1. if hank cant get back to his old form, were going nowhere. unless we ride an unproven cam talbot. henrik has to be consistently better.
2. we miss zuke. he makes the offense go and makes that 3rd line a formidable matchup problem. hes been arguably our best performer at forward all season. we miss his presence big time. when he returns, we will have better balance.
3. defensively we need to settle down and find 3 pairs that work. mix it up. we need a top pair that can play 25 key mins a game. thats staal and girardi. mcd and stralzie and moore and klein. go with that
4. pp. needs to get going and when zuke returns i think it will take off. msl and zuke should be wonderful together. add nasher and beever and let stralman play the pp point. we need to make teams pay for taking penalties against us.
5. stepan. my onlynegative is his play. hes tooooo slow. play beever with msl and that leaves step out of position. brash may need a look see with nasher. step is just too slow and his playmaking skills seem to have regressed.
i like this roster with a healthy zuke and msl playing key minutes.
If Stepan and Nash were playing like they were last year this team would absolutely be a contender, no doubt.
Im not sure. When you get beyond Pittsburgh and Boston, theres a big drop. I think theres 5-6 teams packed together in that 2nd tier, and things change quickly between them. Before the Olympic break, I thought the Rangers could be at the top of that 2nd tier. Now? Im not so sure.
Miamipuck
Al Swearengen
Awesome he won a cup, I loved every minute of it and thank him for it. But ultimately he stayed 5 years too long where he completely sucked as a GM, right? So no I don't want him back and yes he deserved to be fired.
Where does me saying that Smith sucked imply I think Sather is any good?
Winning a cup doesn't mean you should have a job in perpetuity, especially since he was no longer any good at it.
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Sather won a few cups too, and even coached some of those teams. It's irrelevant.
Stepan, but yes, you're correct, he's certainly not a #1, outside of his performance over a half season. He's a middling #2, with the potential to be a 1B/high grade 2.
irishlaxburger2
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Still think Lundqvist is the biggest piece in the "non-performing" list, but I agree
Let's keep it simple for you. We are a longshot against any of the top teams in a seven game series. Period.
id say that's true but I also would say MSL, Nash and Lundqvist they have a better shot at an upset
I can't believe how lazy Nash has become. The guy was a force last year, took everything to the net, couldn't be stopped. This year he's a perimeter prima donna that has a mediocre shot. I thought it was his concussion issues, but he was a beast for like 10 games when he wanted to prove to the world that he deserved to make the Olympics. He's just a lazy ****.
Well since you said it, and put "period" at the end it must be true.
I'm not even denying that, but you strutting around like you have some sort of objective knowledge and are an authority and arrogantly putting "period" at the end is comical.
Well since you said it, and put "period" at the end it must be true.
I'm not even denying that, but you strutting around like you have some sort of objective knowledge and are an authority and arrogantly putting "period" at the end is comical.
The period was more about keeping my statement simple, and to the point, ignoring all 'he said this and he said that' stuff from your post, than declaring myself an authority figure of some sort.
LORDE
I am Lorde, YA YA YA
Agreed on Hank although the word "consistent" made me cringe a bit.
The defense is over rated and still prone to brain farts (see the last 3 games)
Our right wings... good but not great. Nash goes into invisible mode too often. The others are talented but small.
Left wing - issues of too young, inexperienced and or inconsistent. No real threats there unless Kreider evolves.
Centers are really questionable IMO.
We can make some noise but it'll take a miracle to go far.
It would really help if the D tightened up because I think this team can score 2 or 3 fairly consistently.
The defense is over rated and still prone to brain farts (see the last 3 games)
Our right wings... good but not great. Nash goes into invisible mode too often. The others are talented but small.
Left wing - issues of too young, inexperienced and or inconsistent. No real threats there unless Kreider evolves.
Centers are really questionable IMO.
We can make some noise but it'll take a miracle to go far.
It would really help if the D tightened up because I think this team can score 2 or 3 fairly consistently.
TheTakedown
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we also have one of the best bottom 6's if you ask me.
Carcillo-Moore-Boyle has become a great force to reckon with IF they don't get pinned in the zone. Carc has also forced Dorsett out of a spot, which works in our favor since we can probably get a higher pick back than what we traded for Carcillo.
Then look at the Poo-Brass-Zuc line. Like some others said, Poo is definitely replaceable, and I could see pushing Hagelin down to that line and putting Richards (or his replacement) along side someone like Vanek... but beyond that, that is an awesome line
BlueshirtBlitz
Foolish Samurai
I don't know if we're contenders, but we're significantly better than half of this melodramatic board wants to believe.
MSL is a tremendous hockey player and i'm so happy to have him on this team after last night.
Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Hags-Richards-MSL
Poo-Brass-MZA
Boyle-Moore-Carcillo/Miller
Our only serious weakness is our 1st line(or our second line, if MSL's line is considered the first line) and AV's man-to-man system, IMO.
The constant hate of the defensively fantastic 24 year old Stepan, who's no ****ing way a "middling" number 2 center (he's one of the best 2C's in the league already and there should be no question about that) is really ridiculous.
MSL is a tremendous hockey player and i'm so happy to have him on this team after last night.
Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Hags-Richards-MSL
Poo-Brass-MZA
Boyle-Moore-Carcillo/Miller
Our only serious weakness is our 1st line(or our second line, if MSL's line is considered the first line) and AV's man-to-man system, IMO.
The constant hate of the defensively fantastic 24 year old Stepan, who's no ****ing way a "middling" number 2 center (he's one of the best 2C's in the league already and there should be no question about that) is really ridiculous.
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