Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[Habbietat]

Hater alert!!! Get him boys!!

 

[Shawnathon]

It's actually hilarious that a few of you have decided to take up this cause about being labelled Slaf haters on the premise that you simply want him to play in the AHL.

Stop lol

You’re courage is to be commended. You will never live this down if Slaf doesn’t live this down.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You’re courage is to be commended. You will never live this down if Slaf doesn’t live this down.

Oh you naive soul. 3 years post-trade, he was still defending Drouin and the trade and he's still here posting despite the complete and utter catastrophe that trade ended-up being.

Everybody ends-up being wrong about something, anyway.

 

[417]

You’re courage is to be commended. You will never live this down if Slaf doesn’t live this down.

Courage in what? Never live what down?

I'll say what I’ve always said about Slaf…i need a bigger sample to come to a conclusion.

I don't need to have a hard take right now, I'm perfectly OK with that.

Oh you naive soul. 3 years post-trade, he was still defending Drouin and the trade and he's still here posting despite the complete and utter catastrophe that trade ended-up being.

Everybody ends-up being wrong about something, anyway.

Say what now? Lol

Man is this a referendum on what we've gotten right and wrong?

Because I'm pretty sure I'm on the positive side of that ledger if that's how we wanna play it.

No clue what Drouin has to do with anything we’re discussing here either.

But since you're feeling froggy, go head’ and leap.

I got time

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

It's still amazing the years we decided to tank we end up with a Wish version of Anderson and Wal Mart version of Seth Jones

I still stand he should be playing in the AHL. We already scrapped his first season , let him play in a good team in Laval , put Armia and call him after the deadline

 

[BaseballCoach]

It's still amazing the years we decided to tank we end up with a Wish version of Anderson and Wal Mart version of Seth Jones

I still stand he should be playing in the AHL. We already scrapped his first season , let him play in a good team in Laval , put Armia and call him after the deadline

His cap hit would be $4,450,000 after demotion and recall.

This idea that a guy who is clearly NHL calibre but needs things to start clicking better in order to get rewarded with points should go DOWN to get better is surreal.

But the fans NEED him to go down so that they can gain confidence!

 

[NORiculous]

One thing I have realised in this market (and therefore an extention to this board) is that patience is not a virtue.

Why would sending him down be viewed as not being patient?

Keeping him up is not being patient.

 

[admiralcadillac]

It's still amazing the years we decided to tank we end up with a Wish version of Anderson and Wal Mart version of Seth Jones

I still stand he should be playing in the AHL. We already scrapped his first season , let him play in a good team in Laval , put Armia and call him after the deadline

Did you just call Reinbacher a wal mart seth jones? How does that work in your head?

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

His cap hit would be $4,450,000 after demotion and recall.

This idea that a guy who is clearly NHL calibre but needs things to start clicking better inorder tio get rewarded with points should go DOWN to get better is surreal.

But the fans NEED him to go down so that they can gain confidence!

This can't be right... who are you talking about?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Why would sending him down be viewed as not being patient?

Keeping him up is not being patient.

Calling him a bust with certainty like some posters are doing is what I am referring to.

 

[BaseballCoach]

It's still amazing the years we decided to tank we end up with a Wish version of Anderson and Wal Mart version of Seth Jones

"We" did not decide to tank. The GM followed up his Stanley Cup final season with stupid decisions, but ones intended to compete again. His failure cost him his job, and got a high pick as a consolation prize (that's how the league is designed). If not for lottery luck, and two unexpected wins by Anaheim to finish their season, that pick could have been as low as 5th. But as luck would have it, it was first. HURRAY, "we" did it!!

I don't know why some Hab fans are so butthurt that they didn't land Bedard or someone like that as a reward for "their" big tank sacrifice.

What the Habs have done is a rebuild, not a tank. If they wanted to lose as much as possible, they would not be investing in player development or trying so hard to make a player-friendly atmosphere. They would have played Allen less and Primeau much more in 2021-22. They would have shut down injured guys instantly in 2022-23.

I could go on and on. The team did not tank. Some fans WANTED a tank, and seem to believe that they deserve their reward NOW. And if they can't have their point per game player yesterday or for the more patient ones, maybe today, well then bygosh, send him to lower leagues until we do!

 

[417]

Why would sending him down be viewed as not being patient?

Keeping him up is not being patient.

Why?

Has the organization thrown 20+ mins a night at him?

They seem very patient, too patient IMO.

It's the fans who are impatient, they just want to see him produce points at a lower level so they can feel better about him as a 1st overall pick.

 

[BaseballCoach]

This can't be right... who are you talking about?

Slafkovsky. It's how the LTIR rules work. Any player recalled while the team is using LTIR must have his potential bonuses included in the cap hit.

The bonus rule is why they put Dvorak on LTIR with the intention of taking him off next week instead of paper-demoting Slaf, RHP, Guhle or Barron to get cap compliant with Price included, on October 9th.

Why?

Has the organization thrown 20+ mins a night at him?

They seem very patient, too patient IMO.

It's the fans who are impatient, they just want to see him produce points at a lower level so they can feel better about him as a 1st overall pick.

Bingo.

And if they think sending him down and pausing his learning at the level he needs to learn at will speed up his development, they are both WRONG and IMPATIENT.

 

[JackZap]

His game seems better than last years but I don’t see anything elite.

 

[BaseballCoach]

His game seems better than last years but I don’t see anything elite.

OK. We'll see in time.

 

[salbutera]

His game seems better than last years but I don’t see anything elite.

Maybe that’s because the top-5 of 2022 draft were unanimously said to not qualify as top-5 in a good top end draft…

Also is elite being used in same context as “bling”? Sure seems to me as if people want to be WOW’d by Slaf…

 

[JackZap]

OK. We'll see in time.

Trust me, I’m hope I’m wrong

Maybe that’s because the top-5 of 2022 draft were unanimously said to not qualify as top-5 in a good top end draft…

Also elite being used in same context as “bling”?

Yup bad luck as far as getting the #1 pick

 

[BehindTheTimes]

You can't give him PP1 when you have guys like Tanner Pearson, though!

It’s all part of development guru MSL’s plan. Trust the process.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Maybe our genius draft interview strategy with questions like:

"So, say you are in a line, a sort of line that is like a queue, the kind of line where you stand behind one person and another person stands behind you. Oh I forgot, the line is for a cash machine, you know, what are they called, an ATM? Like a cash machine from the bank where you put your card in and money comes out, as long as you have money in your account, that is. Ah yes let's say that you are in line at the cash machine and there are 2 women in front of you. How about we say that they are old women? Yes yes 2 old women at the cash machine in front of you. Let's say we are in the line and a man comes and cuts in front of the whole line, if the man comes and cuts in front of the whole line, including you and the 2 ladies, old ladies that is, would you say something or would you let him cut the line?"

Didn't do us any favors other than making management feel like they were smart.

These dumb questions offer no value at all. This is what has me concerned, they seem to think this question is relevant to how an 18 year old will handle pro sports. It’s mind boggling that this bumbling fool was even allowed to ask it.

 

[River Meadow]

It's still amazing the years we decided to tank we end up with a Wish version of Anderson and Wal Mart version of Seth Jones

I still stand he should be playing in the AHL. We already scrapped his first season , let him play in a good team in Laval , put Armia and call him after the deadline

 

[HuGort]

Slaf doing alright. Look at Hughes 2nd year? Arguably best player in game today. He had 11 goals as 19 year old.

 

[ReHabs]

Slaf doing alright. Look at Hughes 2nd year? Arguably best player in game today. He had 11 goals as 19 year old.

Do you think they’re comparable players in their play style, their profile, their historical performances as prospects, etc?

 

[Fish on The Sand]

100% agree. Some fans think most players prime starts in their early 20's. Not really true. Most players have shorter primes (24/25-30/31) ish.

The ones with longer primes are the stars. Age 20/21 to 32/33 ish.

Most players primes are definitely behind them by age 30.

For forwards their best seasons are usually behind them by age 27, and for dmen by age 29.

Players can obviously be productive into their 30s, but they are almost always going to be on the downswing.

Players primes are definitely in their early-mid 20s, and that's why you'll almost never regret making a judgement call on underperforming players that have hit 21-22, because for the most part that's the start of their best years.

It's very rare to have players like the Sedins who's prime didn't start until their late 20s, and even more rare for guys like Marchand who's prime didn't start until his 30s.

Look at a guy like Lecavalier, who's probably as good as a player can be without being a true superstar.

His prime years were very clearly ages 22-27, and by age 30 was rapidly declining.

The list of players that are even close to effective at age 32 as age 25 is a very small one. Even all time greats like Crosby and Gretzky who had very strong age 30+ seasons were noticably worse than they were.

 

[Bushero]

He plays exactly like someone who produced 5+5 in 31 games in Liiga in his draft year. I don't even want to talk about the beer leaguers olympics and the goals against Tunisia. There's nothing exceptional about him. No, his size and speed combination isn't exceptional either.

 

[sandviper]

"We" did not decide to tank. The GM followed up his Stanley Cup final season with stupid decisions, but ones intended to compete again. His failure cost him his job, and got a high pick as a consolation prize (that's how the league is designed). If not for lottery luck, and two unexpected wins by Anaheim to finish their season, that pick could have been as low as 5th. But as luck would have it, it was first. HURRAY, "we" did it!!

I don't know why some Hab fans are so butthurt that they didn't land Bedard or someone like that as a reward for "their" big tank sacrifice.

What the Habs have done is a rebuild, not a tank. If they wanted to lose as much as possible, they would not be investing in player development or trying so hard to make a player-friendly atmosphere. They would have played Allen less and Primeau much more in 2021-22. They would have shut down injured guys instantly in 2022-23.

I could go on and on. The team did not tank. Some fans WANTED a tank, and seem to believe that they deserve their reward NOW. And if they can't have their point per game player yesterday or for the more patient ones, maybe today, well then bygosh, send him to lower leagues until we do!

To add, some people have this weird perception that a rebuild is a 2-3 year process and we should be back in the playoffs this season or next. I also think this has a lot to do with the frustration at our recent prospects.

This rebuild started with no #1 goalie, no #1D, let alone a contending top-4, and several horrible contracts.