Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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ChesterNimitz

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You're being ridiculous, I hope this is just trolling and not how you really read the game. Needless, done responding to you.
The haters are going to hate. If Slafkovsky does nothing in the next game, he's a bust. If he performs, it's just a flash in the pan. Ignore these posters. Use your own eyes to assess his play. And what his potential is.
 

JoelWarlord

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The grimmest Slaf projections probably won’t happen. Still it shouldn’t just be skittles and rainbows posted in this thread. A little pushback is warranted.
This isn't really "pushback" against homer fans in a meaningful sense though. You've basically just decided independently that he is currently "following the Dainus Zubrus mold", and that unless a 19-year-old with 40 NHL GP meets a standard (playing like last night's game or better on a regular basis over 82 games steadily with only periodic variance in performance) that only a pretty small group of upper-tier forwards in their primes can manage he's definitively still on that path.

Disagreeing with that assertion doesn't mean skittles and rainbows. It just means there is no compelling reason to write off the potential for further development at 20, 21, 22, etc. and declare that he's on the Dainus Zubrus path if games like last night turn out to be the high points this year and not his median performance level at 19. If anything, that's far less "skittles and rainbows" than the idea that it's realistic to expect Slafkovsky at 19 to match last night's performance 50+ more times in the best league in the world IMO. A lot of people wanted to put Caufield in the "Mike Cammalleri mold" after he had ups and downs in his rookie season too.

If last night's game truly becomes his new median/average performance level that he can sustain over 82 games (which would imply that he will play something like ~20 games significantly better than last night as well) that would be absolutely exceptional and he would be a top 20-30 forward in the league already as a teenager. For last night to be his median performance over 82 we'd be looking at a ~30G 80P season at 19. I'd love to see it happen of course, but I don't think that's a remotely realistic expectation for any teenager in the NHL outside of the Crosby/McDavid/Bedard category.
 
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Goldenhands

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Will you be making one for Ryan 'will-replace-Danault' Poehling bashers too?
Danault didnt want to be a third line center in Montreal and Bergevin didnt want to give him 2nd line center money, ironically, thats now his role with L.A.

I dont think you can win a cup with Danault as your 2nd line center, but he will be great for L.A. behind Kopitar and Dubois.

Poehling was projecting well as a solid third line center in the making at some point, it didnt pan out, guilty to have been a believer.
 

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(mod) You've been a Slaf hater since day one. You are probably sweating after witnessing how Juraj could dominate a game like he did yesterday. The kid is barely 19 and we can clearly see the superstar potential after yesterday's game. It doesn't matter if it's only one game or not. The importance is that he showed us that he CAN be this good. Consistency will come as he mature physically and as a hockey player and that comes with time and patience.

For all the scrubs out there hating non stop on Slaf, he will prove you all wrong shortly. For everyone else who liked that pick from the start, ladies and gentlemen... I think we have a superstar in the making right before our eyes. :teach:

The return!
 

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Not very hard to figure out, it's the same group that bashed the Dach and Newhook acquisitions as well.
Right now he’s on the Dainius Zubrus career arc who started in the NHL at 18 and peaked with 2 seasons of 20 goals and 50 points+. Zubrus had games like Slafkovsky had last night even at 20 years old but he couldn’t line two games like that together. I think Slaf should start showing now that he can break out of the mold of the big 6’4 forward with some nice flashes once in a while and that’s it.
I suppose 40 nhl games is enough to write him off.
 

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No regretting anything until 5 years post draft.

If Slaf develops into a top line player with his combination of size and skill, and the Habs draft Catton in the top 7 of this year's draft. Everything works out because Catton is every bit as good as Cooley.
Slaf will always have the ceiling skill wise as a really really good 2nd line player. Again, the only true 1st line talent Montreal has had In the past how ever long has been kovalev for the forward department. Caufield has warts offensively, he can’t get his stellar shot off as well as he did in junior, a lot of flubs even if they do go in. I think caufield is the closest to a true first line player. But still just a really really good 2nd line.

In my opinion.
 
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Slaf will always have the ceiling skill wise as a really really good 2nd line player. Again, the only true 1st line talent Montreal has had In the past how ever long has been kovalev for the forward department. Caufield has warts offensively, he can’t get his stellar shot off as well as he did in junior, a lot of flubs even if they do go in. I think caufield is the closest to a true first line player. But still just a really really good 2nd line.

In my opinion.
We’ll see on Slaf.

On CC I think you’re dead wrong. He’s already a legit first liner. If dumdum hadn’t misused him he’s have been the Calder winner. 49 goals in his last 48 goals. We haven’t had a scorer pace for that since Richer.
 
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Barriwhite

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We’ll see on Slaf.

On CC I think you’re dead wrong. He’s already a legit first liner. If dumdum hadn’t misused him he’s have been the Calder winner. 49 goals in his last 48 goals. We haven’t had a scorer pace for that since Richer.
That’s more than a goal per goal - the guy’s the Lucky Luke of hockey!
 

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Slaf will always have the ceiling skill wise as a really really good 2nd line player. Again, the only true 1st line talent Montreal has had In the past how ever long has been kovalev for the forward department. Caufield has warts offensively, he can’t get his stellar shot off as well as he did in junior, a lot of flubs even if they do go in. I think caufield is the closest to a true first line player. But still just a really really good 2nd line.

In my opinion.

Caufield is incredible at getting his shot off and is easily a first line talent.
 

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(mod) You've been a Slaf hater since day one. You are probably sweating after witnessing how Juraj could dominate a game like he did yesterday. The kid is barely 19 and we can clearly see the superstar potential after yesterday's game. It doesn't matter if it's only one game or not. The importance is that he showed us that he CAN be this good. Consistency will come as he mature physically and as a hockey player and that comes with time and patience.

For all the scrubs out there hating non stop on Slaf, he will prove you all wrong shortly. For everyone else who liked that pick from the start, ladies and gentlemen... I think we have a superstar in the making right before our eyes. :teach:
OMFG, look who's back, back again - Erika's back, tell a friend. Welcome back!!! Une revenante!!!
 

Estimated_Prophet

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Yea because right now he can only shoot the puck, besides that he needs to be potting 50 A

That is a silly comment. He is easily a 40+ goal talent and that alone makes him a 1st liner as a winger.

You are grossly overestimating the contributions of the average 1st line winger and severely underestimating Caufield's IQ, playmaking ability and elite puck handling skill. There really is no debate to be had imo, the kid is a legit 1st line winger.
 

Gillings

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That is a silly comment. He is easily a 40+ goal talent and that alone makes him a 1st liner as a winger.

You are grossly overestimating the contributions of the average 1st line winger and severely underestimating Caufield's IQ, playmaking ability and elite puck handling skill. There really is no debate to be had imo, the kid is a legit 1st line winger.
I don’t doubt his 1st line upside but I don’t think he’s there yet. Just because you score 40 goals doesn’t mean you are a lock for the 1st line. Lots of 40 goal guys aren’t first line wingers. You need bigger stronger playmaking and board play to be considered first line in my books. I question slafs ability to put up 80 plus point consistently while playing well defensively. That’s a first line wing.
 

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I don’t doubt his 1st line upside but I don’t think he’s there yet. Just because you score 40 goals doesn’t mean you are a lock for the 1st line. Lots of 40 goal guys aren’t first line wingers. You need bigger stronger playmaking and board play to be considered first line in my books. I question slafs ability to put up 80 plus point consistently while playing well defensively. That’s a first line wing.
Last year, only 13 wingers scored 80 points, and not all of them have done so consistently. Furthermore, 4 are not defensive stalwarts.. So out of 32 teams that combined have 256 wingers excluding spares, only about 7 meet your criteria for a first line winger. Your bar is way too high.

With your standard, prime Guy Lafleur was not a first line winger. Scotty Bowman would replace Shutt with Gainey and Lafleur with Jimmy Roberts or Rick Chartraw or even Rejean Houle, alongside Jacques Lemaire, if it was the last minute of a game with a 1 goal lead.
 
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