Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[ReHabs]

I also thought Matthews should have been Mailloux’s man on that short handed chance when him and Slaf were chasing Marner. I will let the more technical posters weigh in though.

At right here, Slaf should've spotted Matthews by scanning. He knows his Dman is there, he should knew he has the split-second to look for the threat. It's a 1-on-2, Marner isn't going to power through Mallioux, he doesn't have the posture for it.

But we can forgive that.

What IS Slaf's mistake is he doesn't back off to cover the very aggressive blue-line defense of Mailloux by covering the weak side. It's very basic stuff I think Slaf was just a bit too into the moment to remember (and hasn't had it drilled in him by MSL's coaches).

 

[waitin425]

I edited the comment and expanded on my thoughts.

If you're incapable of accepting that Slafkovsky made a bad call on this play, I think you have to take a step back and accept you're too tilted.

You've got to be kidding me here......are you ignoring the video evidence and the screen grabs I have posted? What should the other players be doing here. I think you have to take a step back and realize you are looking at every possible reason to confirm you bias towards Slaf while ignoring anyone else's involvement in this play. Joke.

 

[ReHabs]

I think this a good example of everyone micro-analyzing Slaf on a shift-by-shift basis.

You just asked for people to weigh in but I guess it isn't a surprise you change your tune since the result isn't satisfactory.

 

[Deebs]

Watch Anderson from start to finish in that video. He goes from here......
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to here....

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While watching Marner play hockey and ignoring Matthews. He might as well be sitting in the stands. But sure.....take a run Slaf on this to fit your "AHL" narrative. Hard to argue with you here, when you refuse to look at everyone on the ice and instead, expect Slaf to be everywhere at once.

Yeah, not the right play but it doesn't change the fact that Logan and Slaf didn't communicate with each other. Logan can see what's coming and needs to direct Slaf. Slaf needs his head on a swivel. They didn't do it and yadda yadda yadda....scoring chance.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Watch Anderson from start to finish in that video. He goes from here......
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to here....

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While watching Marner play hockey and ignoring Matthews. He might as well be sitting in the stands. But sure.....take a run Slaf on this to fit your "AHL" narrative. Hard to argue with you here, when you refuse to look at everyone on the ice and instead, expect Slaf to be everywhere at once.

Right. Saying that the guy should scan is a ''narrative.'' Gotcha.

 

[ReHabs]

You've got to be kidding me here......are you ignoring the video evidence and the screen grabs I have posted? What should the other players be doing here. I think you have to take a step back and realize you are looking at every possible reason to confirm you bias towards Slaf while ignoring anyone else's involvement in this play. Joke.

It's Anderson's fault that Slaf didn't know he had to back off and cover the empty weak side?

Tell me about confirmation bias, can you describe it?

 

[Andy]

You just asked for people to weigh in but I guess it isn't a surprise you change your tune since the result isn't satisfactory.

Yah, people weighed in and now it's clear that we are overanalyzing.

Look how many words spilled on a single shift.

 

[waitin425]

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At right here, Slaf should've spotted Matthews by scanning. He knows his Dman is there, he should knew he has the split-second to look for the threat. It's a 1-on-2, Marner isn't going to power through Mallioux, he doesn't have the posture for it.

But we can forgive that.

What IS Slaf's mistake is he doesn't back off to cover the very aggressive blue-line defense of Mailloux by covering the weak side. It's very basic stuff I think Slaf was just a bit too into the moment to remember (and hasn't had it drilled in him by MSL's coaches).

Sure....it is a very nitpicky stance to take here....but I will concede, Slaf could have scanned better in this exact moment and turn his attention to Matthews. He shouldn't have had to through. Look at Anderson....my god that is horrendous. This play is on him and Gally.....and NOT an example anyone should be using to argue their point that Slaf is not ready. That is my point here.

 

[Captain Mountain]

not only it's the preseason, but Slaf was injured so he hasn't played for 9 months. " his IQ is this , his decisions are that" negative speeches don't consider at all, the context of his tenure .

Eh, he has played more games than any other Hab in the pre-season, I'm not going to use missing time as an excuse for specific situations, more in a broad development sense.

I just generally have an issue that some fans have an issue that Montreal isn't developing Slafkovsky properly (read: sticking him in the AHL) and some fans (occasionally the same fans) have an issue that Slafkovsky isn't a finished product.

I didn't have any strong opinions one way or another for who the Habs should have picked in the 2022 draft, but its always been clear that Slafkovsky was going to take time to develop. Meanwhile you have people debating what he and Mailloux did on a play against two of the best offensive players in the world and which play is not likely to have developed the way it did if the game actually meant something.

 

[ReHabs]

Sure....it is a very nitpicky stance to take here....but I will concede, Slaf could have scanned better in this exact moment and turn his attention to Matthews. He shouldn't have had to through. Look at Anderson....my god that is horrendous. This play is on him and Gally.....and NOT an example anyone should be using to argue their point that Slaf is not ready. That is my point here.

It's a PP, Anderson and Gallagher aren't going to crash down to the D-zone when it's a 1-on-2 or developing 2-on-2. Anderson is a bonehead anyway but he's probably thinking he's gotta be ready for the return. Gallagher dogged it on the play for sure.

Anyway, nothing will convince you that Slaf is not NHL-material at this time. That's fine, we've over-discussed it and you guys won -- the Habs will keep him in the NHL. Let's all root for him and hope for the best.

 

[417]

Watch Anderson from start to finish in that video. He goes from here......
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to here....

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While watching Marner play hockey and ignoring Matthews. He might as well be sitting in the stands. But sure.....take a run Slaf on this to fit your "AHL" narrative. Hard to argue with you here, when you refuse to look at everyone on the ice and instead, expect Slaf to be everywhere at once.

This is the problem with how Slafkovsky is viewed right now.

Too much focus, tunnel vision...focusing on him and nothing else.

You know what happens when all you do is focus on one player......

 

[ReHabs]

Yah, people weighed in and now it's clear that we are overanalyzing.

Look how many words spilled on a single shift.

If he had made the right read, I hope people would've noticed and praised him for it. If I had watched the game I hope I would have noticed and praised him for it.

 

[waitin425]

It's Anderson's fault that Slaf didn't know he had to back off and cover the empty weak side?

Tell me about confirmation bias, can you describe it?

It's Anderson's fault that he stopped playing hockey. Slaf shouldn't have to cover for Andy or Gally in this situation. If he was scanning, sure he could have. But he shouldn't have to in this situation.

What would the coaches tell Slaf in the film room here.

"Take a look at this Juraj. See here where you are skating hard to stick with Marner. As Marner got to the blue line, you weren't scanning properly, if you had of been, you would have seen Matthews skating down the ice, right past Gally whose brain shut off and Andy, who was focused on looking at Marner's numbers on his jersey. Do Better"

 

[NotProkofievian]

Yah, people weighed in and now it's clear that we are overanalyzing.

Look how many words spilled on a single shift.

Why should there be any words? He should scan, he did not. That's it, that's all. What other words could there be? We come to hfboards habs to find out.

 

[Wats]

Missed the game, was there any plays that showed that he can be a 1st liner some day? Even Kotkaniemi was wowing people in camp.

 

[Andy]

If he had made the right read, I hope people would've noticed and praised him for it. If I had watched the game I hope I would have noticed and praised him for it.

We're at the point where we want to analyze every mistake he makes in every game. It's a bit nuts. We don't do this for any other prospect.

 

[ReHabs]

It's Anderson's fault that he stopped playing hockey. Slaf shouldn't have to cover for Andy or Gally in this situation. If he was scanning, sure he could have. But he shouldn't have to in this situation.

What would the coaches tell Slaf in the film room here.

"Take a look at this Juraj. See here where you are skating hard to stick with Marner. As Marner got to the blue line, you weren't scanning properly, if you had of been, you would have seen Matthews skating down the ice, right past Gally whose brain shut off and Andy, who was focused on looking at Marner's numbers on his jersey. Do Better"

I thought you conceded the point.

Slaf led him down to the D-zone, Mailloux was there to receive Marner. Slaf's job at that point was to figure out the threat on the weak side and cover it. It could be his teammates dogged it or not, but he didn't do his job right on this play and any coach worth his salary should be reaming him out for making such a silly, thoughtless mistake. It's not the end of the world though.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It's Anderson's fault that he stopped playing hockey. Slaf shouldn't have to cover for Andy or Gally in this situation. If he was scanning, sure he could have. But he shouldn't have to in this situation.

What would the coaches tell Slaf in the film room here.

"Take a look at this Juraj. See here where you are skating hard to stick with Marner. As Marner got to the blue line, you weren't scanning properly, if you had of been, you would have seen Matthews skating down the ice, right past Gally whose brain shut off and Andy, who was focused on looking at Marner's numbers on his jersey. Do Better"

Yes.

 

[Deebs]

It's Anderson's fault that he stopped playing hockey. Slaf shouldn't have to cover for Andy or Gally in this situation. If he was scanning, sure he could have. But he shouldn't have to in this situation.

What would the coaches tell Slaf in the film room here.

"Take a look at this Juraj. See here where you are skating hard to stick with Marner. As Marner got to the blue line, you weren't scanning properly, if you had of been, you would have seen Matthews skating down the ice, right past Gally whose brain shut off and Andy, who was focused on looking at Marner's numbers on his jersey. Do Better"

There is so much wrong with all of this it kind of hurts my brain. On to the next thread.

 

[waitin425]

Why should there be any words? He should scan, he did not. That's it, that's all. What other words could there be? We come to hfboards habs to find out.

You posted this video in the Slaf thread with the term "yiiiikes". Implying some egregious play on Slaf's part.

Now, in the face of evidence, you water this down to....well Slaf wasn't scanning.

The only Yiiikes here is the play of both Gally and Anderson.

Minor teachable moment for Slaf on the benefits of scanning in this situation, to cover for defenses lapses of two veterans,

 

[ReHabs]

We're at the point where we want to analyze every mistake he makes in every game. It's a bit nuts. We don't do this for any other prospect.

Well, the debate is about whether this prospect/player is suited to play in the NHL against the best hockey players in the world. Well, it was the debate but as Training Camp concludes, it seems the debate is settled -- for better or worse, the kid is one of our top12 forwards.

The Smart Guys Running the Habs know best: Slaf is to continue his development in the NHL.

You have my word I won't do the same thing as last year. I can respect the Habs won't change their mind, they're the Smart Guys after all.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Missed the game, was there any plays that showed that he can be a 1st liner some day? Even Kotkaniemi was wowing people in camp.

Nice play here

 

[waitin425]

I thought you conceded the point.

Slaf led him down to the D-zone, Mailloux was there to receive Marner. Slaf's job at that point was to figure out the threat on the weak side and cover it. It could be his teammates dogged it or not, but he didn't do his job right on this play and any coach worth his salary should be reaming him out for making such a silly, thoughtless mistake. It's not the end of the world though.

Completely disagree with you. The habs are on the PP. Slaf and Mailloux riding Marner to the top of the blue line, while also cutting off passing lanes is exactly what I want them to do. There are three remaining players on the ice. Two (at least) of which, should be positionally sound to take any trailing players.

Agree to disagree I guess.

 

[Andy]

Well, the debate is about whether this prospect/player is suited to play in the NHL against the best hockey players in the world.

I don't think this one isolated play doesn't tell us anything about that.

 

[Wats]

Nice play here

Guess it was cool to see him not budge when the defender push him. Thanks.