Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[ReHabs]

Yeah, I wonder why people think you’re not a good faith poster.

You’re the one demanding others to “revise their expectations”. Whatever else could it mean?

You’re convinced the Habs are on the right track
You’re convinced the rebuild and tank must go on for an indefinite period
And you’re convinced that even if you prefer Slaf in the AHL, there is nothing wrong with the thought process of those who stuck him in the NHL and insisted to keep him there until he got injured and lost half a season

It’s clear to me what you’re really saying: trust the Habs organization and don’t expect anything at all

 

[habdynasty]

If Laval could develop a player once a decade things would be ok In Mintreal. They have a horrible track record.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Caufield had 7 misses and 0 shots on net by the end of the 2nd period. He couldn't hit a barn last night. Or didn't care if he missed. Hard to say sometimes with pre-season, players often try stuff that usually doesn't work.

He flubbed a lot of plays. But he was a catalyst. 7 missed shots isnt good. But 7 shot attempts is. He was our best forward in my opinion.

If it were Slaf though, the focus would be entirely on the 7 misses rather than the shot generation.

That's not a practice, it's what some armchair player development managers on this forums keep saying should be done.

I’d put him down there. I think it’d be better for him.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If Laval could develop a player once a decade things would be ok In Mintreal. They have a horrible track record.

It’s a new group.

We used to be able to churn out good prospects. I think we’ll be able to do it again.

 

[NotProkofievian]

That's not a practice, it's what some armchair player development managers on this forums keep saying should be done.

Sure it is. That's what we did with Suzuki and Caufield for example.

 

[morhilane]

It's what's done in most areas of life.

In the NHL, the prospects aren't sent back so they can dominate in lower leagues, they are sent back because they aren't considered ready to play in the NHL. If they were ready they would stay up even if they never dominated in lower leagues.

 

[NotProkofievian]

In the NHL, the prospects aren't sent back so they can dominate in lower leagues, they are sent back because they aren't considered ready to play in the NHL. If they were ready they would stay up even if they never dominated in lower leagues.

Ready to do what in the NHL? Pretty sure most prospects could put up goose eggs for a month straight, too.

 

[ReHabs]

In the NHL, the prospects aren't sent back so they can dominate in lower leagues, they are sent back because they aren't considered ready to play in the NHL. If they were ready they would stay up even if they never dominated in lower leagues.

Depends on the prospect and what he’s meant to accomplish, I’d say.

Suzuki wasn’t rushed to the NHL but it wasn’t with the expectation he would dominate the O.

 

[Jaynki]

Cooley is better in pretty much every faucet of hockey.
Speed
Passing
IQ
Stick handling
Poise
Agility
Endurance
Etc. Etc.

Slaf is better in pretty much every other faucet of hockey

Strenght
Shot
Physicality
Forecheck
Outmuscling NHL D
Creating turnover
Etc. Etc.

 

[morhilane]

Ready to do what in the NHL? Pretty sure most prospects could put up goose eggs for a month straight, too.

From what I've seen, it's physically ready followed by defensive awareness that cause young players to be returned to their junior club or the AHL.

That doesn't mean the player isn't given other things to work on when he is sent down.

 

[NotProkofievian]

From what I've seen, it's physically ready followed by defensive awareness that cause young players to be returned to their junior club or the AHL.

That doesn't mean the player isn't given other things to work on when he is sent down.

Again, physically ready to do what? Exist? Anyone's ready to play in the NHL if set the bar for their performance low enough.

 

[morhilane]

Again, physically ready to do what? Exist? Anyone's ready to play in the NHL if set the bar for their performance low enough.

If you don't understand what physically ready to play in the NHL means, you have a very poor ability to evaluate prospects and where they are at.

 

[NotProkofievian]

If you don't understand what physically ready to play in the NHL means, you have a very poor ability to evaluate prospects and where they are at.

I dunno man, seems like maybe the habs front office had a poor ability to evaluate where Slaf was at.

 

[Kennerback]

Slaf is better in pretty much every other faucet of hockey

Strenght
Shot
Physicality
Forecheck
Outmuscling NHL D
Creating turnover
Etc. Etc.

Why are we talking plumbing in a Slaf thread.

 

[Legend123]

"Was a great prospect"? rofl! wow giving up on a 19 years old. That's a good thing Tage Thompson was not drafted by us as he would probably be playing in the KHL atm.

Lmao dude calm down

He's no longer a prospect he's an NHLer.

 

[morhilane]

I dunno man, seems like maybe the habs front office had a poor ability to evaluate where Slaf was at.

Slaf was 100% physically ready to play in the NHL, it's why they kept him up.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Ready to do what in the NHL?

Play at a 4th line or 3rd pair level.

I'd rather have Nick Suzuki on my 4th line in his rookie year than Brian Flynn, even if their initial production is the same.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Slaf was 100% physically ready to play in the NHL, it's why they kept him up.

Yeah, it really showed in the results.

 

[Jaynki]

Yeah, it really showed in the results.

Those result are definite and gives us a clear indication of futur outcomes. This type of thing is stagnant and absolutely not evolutive.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Play at a 4th line or 3rd pair level.

I'd rather have Nick Suzuki on my 4th line in his rookie year than Brian Flynn, even if their initial production is the same.

Like I said, anyone is NHL ready if the standard is that they do f*** all.

 

[Jaynki]

Why are we talking plumbing in a Slaf thread.

For the same reason someone describe Cooley as an Erik Haula clone i guess

 

[NotProkofievian]

Those result are definite and gives us a clear indication of futur outcomes. This type of thing is stagnant and absolutely not evolutive.

This is how the past works.

 

[Jaynki]

This is how the past works.

Looking the wrong way

 

[417]

Like I said, anyone is NHL ready if the standard is that they do f*** all.

To be fair…there are well established veterans who do f**k all too.

We have our share.

 

[BaseballCoach]

You’re the one demanding others to “revise their expectations”. Whatever else could it mean?

You’re convinced the Habs are on the right track
You’re convinced the rebuild and tank must go on for an indefinite period
And you’re convinced that even if you prefer Slaf in the AHL, there is nothing wrong with the thought process of those who stuck him in the NHL and insisted to keep him there until he got injured and lost half a season

It’s clear to me what you’re really saying: trust the Habs organization and don’t expect anything at all

Revisionist history.

Injuries happened to most players on both Montreal and Laval, often leg injuries like his (not from 'being rocked').

Kirby Dach got hurt being loaned by the Hawks to TCJ in D+2. He was NOT hurt because he had a very promising D+1 rookie season during which he kept getting better.

Like I said, anyone is NHL ready if the standard is that they do f*** all.

There is a wide variation in 4th line production, but zero over a whole season is not the norm.