Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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Lafleurs Guy

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He was not consensus 1OA. The word consensus has a very clear meaning.
Stop spreading crap. Yes he was consensus first overall. And that’s actually pretty impressive considering Wright had been heavy consensus leading up to the draft.
 

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Well I know you and I did not have him there but the McKenzie poll is the closest thing we have to a scout consensus and it said Slaf was the 1OA for a majority of scouts. And if we look for other rankings he was a top 3 pick everywhere. :)
Correct. He was the consensus number one.
 

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Stop spreading crap. Yes he was consensus first overall. And that’s actually pretty impressive considering Wright had been heavy consensus leading up to the draft.
Consensus does not mean “narrow edge”. It means a significant agreement.

Cut the bullshit with your repetition of the word consensus. There was no consensus 1OA in 2022. There was a consensus 1OA in 2023.
 

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A narrow edge is not a consensus! Consensus has a meaning, it doesn’t mean narrow majority!
He was ranked by almost every scout as a top two. He came from behind to take the number one slot by the majority of scouts. It’s totally fair to call it consensus here.

Move on man.
 
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We need to play again San Jose soon. It would help boost the stats for our players! :laugh:

I will be patient with Slaf. We are finally seeing Quinton Byfield real potential at 21 years old.

Let him finish this year in the AHL. He would probably have a better season with Dach in next year.
 

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hey guys, casual viewer here. I tuned in and stayed up until 3am to watch my fellow countryman slafkovsky for the first time this season. I missed the first few minutes of the game and Juraj's goal (lol), but a couple of observations anyway, FWIW:

- Man, he can look really awkward at times, can't he? with his weird upright posture, low output, far away from the play, seemingly watching, not engaged.
- He scans and turns his head a lot, I give him that, but the puck rarely seems to find him. And when it does, he gets rid of it quickly with one-touch passes.
- However, I really thought he was growing into the game, getting to the puck more and trying things with the puck on his stick. The sequence before Suzuki's goal was very impressive. He also made a couple of solid plays on defense. Hopefully just a stepping stone for bigger things to come.

your team is rough, though, not gonna lie :help:
 
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DAChampion

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Yes, it’s fair to say in the last month of the season he was consensus top2. Late riser.

Slafkovsky was ranked #4 prior to the season so he's not a late riser.

It is the case that Wright fell. He was considered a potential generational talent.
 
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Slafkovsky was a consensus top-2 choice according to scouts, with a plurality ranking him #1.

Plurality of a MINORITY. It's 10 scouts, not the whole league. If we would do a meta analysis of all the major rankings, there was no concensus. A concensus is a wide majority in agreement.

Being 1 vote up out of a minority of 10 (of 32) is not concensus.
 
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DAChampion

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Plurality of a MINORITY. It's 10 scouts, not the whole league. If we would do a meta analysis of all the major rankings, there was no concensus. A concensus is a wide majority in agreement.

Being 1 vote up out of a minority of 10 (of 32) is not concensus.

It's called a sample. I don't see the issue unless you can demonstrate that the sample is not representative.
 

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hey guys, casual viewer here. I tuned in and stayed up until 3am to watch my fellow countryman slafkovsky for the first time this season. I missed the first few minutes of the game and Juraj's goal (lol), but a couple of observations anyway, FWIW:

- Man, he can look really awkward at times, can't he? with his weird upright posture, low output, far away from the play, seemingly watching, not engaged.
- He scans and turns his head a lot, I give him that, but the puck rarely seems to find him. And when it does, he gets rid of it quickly with one-touch passes.
- However, I really thought he was growing into the game, getting to the puck more and trying things with the puck on his stick. The sequence before Suzuki's goals was very impressive. He also made a couple of solid plays on defense. Hopefully just a stepping stone for bigger things to come.

your team is rough, though, not gonna lie :help:
To be honest, him getting rid of the puck quickly is what makes me think he's a surefire nhler. What he needs is to gain some confidence and know when he can try and create space or make a play, even if it isn't the high percentage play. Stars generally have that in them.
 
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DAChampion

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5 vs 4 is not a concensus, even if you wrongfuly extrapolate that to 32 votes.
Furthermore, Bob mentioned they did further probings where both players ended-up equal.

Yes like I said Slaf was a consensus top#2.

The value of "samples" has been well understood for a few hundred years. In the case of McKenzie, his list is known to be credible and representative because he's been yielding accurate predictions for many years.
 
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admiralcadillac

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Slaf had another weak game but better than the previous 7-8. He should be in Laval with players of similar skill at the moment. He needs a solid month or two of positivity in his game to build his confidence and swagger back up...then they can reevaluate.
He did not have a weak game at all. The Suzuki Caufield line created more chances with Slaf on the wing than any other winger this season...

What sequences made you think he had a weak game out of curiosity?
 

Lafleurs Guy

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To be honest, him getting rid of the puck quickly is what makes me think he's a surefire nhler. What he needs is to gain some confidence and know when he can try and create space or make a play, even if it isn't the high percentage play. Stars generally have that in them.
He needs to play with better players.

As I said last year, I don’t get bringing up an 18 year old and playing him on the 3rd line. Play him with skilled players if you’re going to have him in the NHL.

I sincerely hope they keep him on the first and honestly evaluate him for the next 1-15 games. Stop screwing around with him on the third… Play him on the top line and then decide if he should stay. And if he looks out of place SEND HIM DOWN.
 

salwan

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To be honest, him getting rid of the puck quickly is what makes me think he's a surefire nhler. What he needs is to gain some confidence and know when he can try and create space or make a play, even if it isn't the high percentage play. Stars generally have that in them.
As a casual viewer focusing on one player all game, hoping he shows flashes of brilliance:popcorn:, it's possible I'm confusing highlight-reel plays with quality, when it's probably better to keep it simple and not turn the puck over. which he does most of the time, tbh
 
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Jaynki

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You guys are talking like being a late riser is a bad thing.

I would much rather draft a guy that is rising and who's value has constantly been trending up.

Those are the real homerun.

Drafting someone who had his maximum value at 15 years old and whom his perceived value has regressed and you draft him with the expectations that he will have his former value back is the best way to get burnt.

One is trending up and up and up.

The other you wish he will be a shadow of his past.

Its the same thing in the stock market.

People are afraid to buy stock at all time high because it already rose a lot. They prefer to buy depleted stock thats now trading at a fraction of their former price because somehow, somewhere maybe they will get their value back. Its inherently a wrong approach.

Being a riser is an excellent thing. I much prefer draft a player with unique skillset who is trending up.
 
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