Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[River Meadow]

Asking again.

I concede Slafkovsky fumbled many pucks and did not always took the right decision.

Still, he is the player who had the most offensive highlights this pre season for us, mainly his goal, his pass to Anderson following strong board plays and his two breakaways.

I concede Dach, Suzuki and Caufield are better player in the present.

Now, who else has been better than Slaf in this camp?

Roy? BJA? Pearson? Beck? Pezzetta maybe? RHP?

Lets go, im all ear for it.

Our team is known to be among the worst in the league.

So what is your point exactly?

Slafkovsky isn't so bad because he's not the worst player we have?

 

[Jaynki]

I just dont see him living up to that status. In other words, He's no Hughes Matthews bedard Kane and so on.

Cooley is? Wright is ?

 

[Jaynki]

Our team is known to be among the worst in the league.

So what is your point exactly?

Slafkovsky isn't so bad because he's not the worst player we have?

My point is that as an 19 years old, Slafkovsky is at worst a top 5 forward on our team.

Who do you consider the best team in the league? Pretty sure he is at worst a top 7 forward in this team.

Who has been better than Slafkovsky in this camp? Who has had more impact?

He had many offensive highlights, most on the team actually, and advanced data had him as the most impactful forward in game 2.

Why would a team sent down to the AHL a clear, evident top 6 forward? You see Slafkovsky plays and you think he is of Maillet, Stephens, Andersson caliber?

 

[Jaynki]

Very young players can experience exponential, parabolic growth in their performance, real quick.

Old player can experience, massive drop in their performance, real quick.

Y'all are betting against Slafkovsky and capping his ceiling as a 50 points player or Modin/Zubrus/Anderson. I mean, that is sexy to call the 1st ov pick busting but you guys realise the level of talent you are betting against? And now that it seems consensual in this thread, betting against the crowd in favour of Slafkovsky had to be the easiest bet one can make. Wont gain anything out of that but still the easiest, most obvious bet there is out there.

Y'all are about to eat the mother of all crow.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

why would you hope for a franchise cornerstone of this team to fail? odd behavior

Reading comprehension fail. Nowhere did the poster wish he would fail. Odd interpretation.

Posters also liked your post haha.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Very young players can experience exponential, parabolic growth in their performance, real quick.

Old player can experience, massive drop in their performance, real quick.

Y'all are betting against Slafkovsky and capping his ceiling as a 50 points player or Modin/Zubrus/Anderson. I mean, that is sexy to call the 1st ov pick busting but you guys realise the level of talent you are betting against? And now that it seems consensual in this thread, betting against the crowd in favour of Slafkovsky had to be the easiest bet one can make. Wont gain anything out of that but still the easiest, most obvious bet there is out there.

Y'all are about to eat the mother of all crow.

I hope so. I'd be really pumped if Juraj could score 20 goals this year.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

So @Kunta Kinte and @Stompin Paul Peller each claim they see Freddy Modin and 50pts as a peak performer, respectively. Modin got 57pts in the pre-lockout NHL, so I hope we are aware of what's being discussed here. Somewhere between Danius Zubrus, Josh Anderson, and Fredrick Modin... a far cry from Jagr and Rantanen! Hopefully Slaf shows more than that! @Goldenhands nailed both draft picks in 2022 and 2023 and is considerably higher on Slafkovsky.

@Jaynki is also higher on Slafkovsky than the aforementioned Zubrus/Anderson/Modin comparisons and he expects to see growth in D+2, I think that's a fair, optimistic assessment position to hold. The preseason isn't over yet and there haven't been any indications that Slafkovsky will be sent to the AHL. We can take it game by game and probably should. Last year @NotProkofievian asked after every dud game why Slaf was still in the NHL and nobody had a proper answer. This went on for a calendar month, Dec 15 to Jan 15, where Slaf posted 0 pts and 11 SoG in 15gp, until Slaf got injured and lost the rest of his season.

You forgot Tyson who thinks Slaf will be a top 10 player in the league.

 

[Wats]

My point is that as an 19 years old, Slafkovsky is at worst a top 5 forward on our team.

Who do you consider the best team in the league? Pretty sure he is at worst a top 7 forward in this team.

Who has been better than Slafkovsky in this camp? Who has had more impact?

He had many offensive highlights, most on the team actually, and advanced data had him as the most impactful forward in game 2.

Why would a team sent down to the AHL a clear, evident top 6 forward? You see Slafkovsky plays and you think he is of Maillet, Stephens, Andersson caliber?

Right now, objectively, these players are better than Slaf today:

Suzuki
Caufield
Dach
Anderson
Newhook
Monahan
Gallagher
Pinard
Evans

Arguably in camp, following showed more:
Ylonen
Roy
Pezzetta
Pearson

 

[Jaynki]

I hope so. I'd be really pumped if Juraj could score 20 goals this year.

Who would not?

I think with what he displayed in pre-season, its really possible.

When the fumbles and decision making improve a bit more, when the release can go out just a bit quicker, he will be, i think, really, really dangerous.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

03-04 is when he really started becoming the General. He was a potentially exciting prospect, but you are correct, not pegged to be a star as it was unknown where his ceiling in the NHL was going to be.

Personally, after his first two seasons, I thought he was a sureshot future first pairing D. He was already the best D offensively, talent-wise. It was plain to see.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Pacioretty was wait and see. 2nd full season many people though he was a 3rd liner at best. McDonagh was wait and see. Sergachev. Nobody though Markov was gonna be what he was. I don’t remember consensus being Uber positive on Suzuki. Many people were kinda meh on Caufield.

Slaf’s looking much better. I see more in him than Patches at the same age.

We’ll…wait and see

I did.

Theodore, Markov, Price, Subban, Caufield. They were easy to see in their first seasons, that they would perform and be stars. And now I have Hutson whom I'm pretty sure will show the same.

 

[Jaynki]

Right now, objectively, these players are better than Slaf today:

Suzuki
Caufield
Dach
Anderson
Newhook
Monahan
Gallagher
Pinard
Evans

Arguably in camp, following showed more:
Ylonen
Roy
Pezzetta
Pearson

Ok. I will point to Slaf shootout goal in scrimmage. When he got out of the corner with the puck against two defenders and dished it to BJA who had 5 seconds to take a shot in the slot. I will also point out to when he burned JBD and got himself into a breakaway and i will also point out to when he anticipated and positioned himself into a breakaway yesterday.

Finally, i want to highlights that Slafkovsky caused at least 3 turnover in the o-zone during these games that led to high danger chance and i also want to highlight strong board play and many puck won behind the enemy net.

I will link a photo that shows that Slaf has been the most impactful forward in game two, offensively AND defensively.

Nothing i state here is subjective. Those are all cold, hard, objectivable facts.

Like i said, i already concede Suzuki, Caufield and Dach. I will now, even if i disagree, concede Newhook and Monahan. I even concede Anderson (lol!)

So, i would like to hear with good, supported arguments how Roy, Gallagher, Pearson, RHP, Evans, Ylonen and Pezzetta have been better ?

So go ahead, elaborate on how Pezzetta and Gallagher have been better than Slaf. I am all ear.

What have they done, displayed that make you thinks they are better ?

I am sure you will easily be able to find evidence.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I mean...probably not Pezzetta and Gallagher, I'm just going with my gut on this one lol.

 

[Jaynki]

I mean...probably not Pezzetta and Gallagher, I'm just going with my gut on this one lol.

Ok

Roy, Pearson, RHP, Evans.

Go ahead. Im all ear.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Ok

Roy, Pearson, RHP, Evans.

Go ahead. Im all ear.

I didn't make that list, you'll have to talk to that guy. I'm just saying, sight unseen, Pezz and Gallagher probably weren't very good lol.

 

[ReHabs]

Who would not?

I think with what he displayed in pre-season, its really possible.

When the fumbles and decision making improve a bit more, when the release can go out just a bit quicker, he will be, i think, really, really dangerous.

In regular season games if he keeps fumbling and being slow he will get his head cut off just like he got last year. It's a real problem.

 

[Jaynki]

In regular season games if he keeps fumbling and being slow he will get his head cut off just like he got last year. It's a real problem.

In regular season, if he keeps creating turnover and forechecking like he did and if he gets himself into breakaway like he did with powerful skating and also anticipation, with his mitts, he is scoring 20 goals and 50 points.

I didn't make that list, you'll have to talk to that guy. I'm just saying, sight unseen, Pezz and Gallagher probably weren't very good lol.

So you agree that Slafkovsky was the best player after Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, Newhook, Monahan and Anderson?

So the 7 best forward on the team?

 

[NotProkofievian]

In regular season, if he keeps creating turnover and forechecking like he did and if he gets himself into breakaway like he did with powerful skating and also anticipation, with his mitts, he is scoring 20 goals and 50 points.


So you agree that Slafkovsky was the best player after Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, Newhook, Monahan and Anderson?

So the 7 best forward on the team?

I haven't watched the preseason and have made no claims about their relative performances.

 

[waitin425]

Our team is known to be among the worst in the league.

So what is your point exactly?

Slafkovsky isn't so bad because he's not the worst player we have?

Cooley is probably behind Crouse, Hayton, Keller, possibly Guenther and Kerfoot. Arizona sucks. Cooley should be sent down too, because if he's 4th or 5th on that team, he clearly is not good.

 

[HabzSauce]

Asking again.

I concede Slafkovsky fumbled many pucks and did not always took the right decision.

Still, he is the player who had the most offensive highlights this pre season for us, mainly his goal, his pass to Anderson following strong board plays and his two breakaways.

I concede Dach, Suzuki and Caufield are better player in the present.

Now, who else has been better than Slaf in this camp?

Roy? BJA? Pearson? Beck? Pezzetta maybe? RHP?

Lets go, im all ear for it.

That second period alone vs Ottawa - He had about 3-4 highlight clips in there!

 

[Rapala]

Il joue trop souvent au bout du baton. He's done well in other areas but this does stick out. He hasn't got the game underneath him yet. He won't become truly effective until he does.

 

[BLONG7]

Not if Hutson’s the best player in that draft.

True..............sometimes a 2nd rounder can be The Guy!

 

[Jaynki]

That second period alone vs Ottawa - He had about 3-4 highlight clips in there!

More than Gallagher, Pearson, Evans and Roy combined through all of pre season.

 

[Jaynki]

Asking again.

I concede Slafkovsky fumbled many pucks and did not always took the right decision.

Still, he is the player who had the most offensive highlights this pre season for us, mainly his goal, his pass to Anderson following strong board plays and his two breakaways.

I concede Dach, Suzuki and Caufield are better player in the present.

Now, who else has been better than Slaf in this camp?

Roy? BJA? Pearson? Beck? Pezzetta maybe? RHP?

Lets go, im all ear for it.

Crickets

 

[River Meadow]

Cooley is probably behind Crouse, Hayton, Keller, possibly Guenther and Kerfoot. Arizona sucks. Cooley should be sent down too, because if he's 4th or 5th on that team, he clearly is not good.

Um,

What?