Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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Kennerback

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One of my worries with him having a consistent lack of success is, it becomes harder to find that success afterwards AND that can get in your head. I think Slaf is a pretty confident guy and that's one of the reasons the Habs picked him over Wright, but I don't want to see him go down that route and hope he can find success soon, whether that be in the NHL or AHL.

I think if Slaf does stay on that line with Newhook and ends up finding success it will be very beneficial for him, because he has learn to adapt his playstyle to fit his linemates and that will help him understand the game better. I still hope he gets sent down because I want him to get those easier minutes against lesser competition. Rantanen is a good comparable to Slaf and he spent an extra season in Finland and then one in the AHL before making the NHL.
My only issue with sending him down is that I think it will change squat. He has time to shoot in the NHL, he could step into the slot or the front of the net, he just doesn’t do it. Why? Idk. Why would he do it more in the AHL?
 
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I get the feeling that slaf, like Wright, made their reputation when they were 13,14,15 years old and that reputation just kind of stayed with them till they were drafted
 

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So the new argument is that “Slackovsky” (what a great nickname) will make the team win in the playoffs… (aka that the regular season is less important).

People… give it a rest. Management is messing this one up.

Now they are scared to send him down because… he wasn’t sent down last year…?!?!?

Unbelievable.

Do it now before it is too late…

He can still become an NHL player if you stop making him believe in wonderland and unicorns. He needs to see the reality to be able to progress. This isn’t peewee…
 
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So the new argument is that “Slackovsky” (what a great nickname) will make the team win in the playoffs… (aka that the regular season is less important).

People… give it a rest. Management is messing this one up.

Now they are scared to send him down because… he wasn’t sent down last year…?!?!?

Unbelievable.

Do it now before it is too late…

He can still become an NHL player if you stop making him believe in wonderland and unicorns. He needs to see the reality to be able to progress. This isn’t peewee…
I think slaf knows he sucks. They're just seeing if he can figure it out.
 
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My only issue with sending him down is that I think it will change squat. He has time to shoot in the NHL, he could step into the slot or the front of the net, he just doesn’t do it. Why? Idk. Why would he do it more in the AHL?

The NHL is the cream of the crop.

He will absolutely have more time and space in the AHL, no doubt about it.
 

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Basically… Tourigny just said that the plan the Habs have with Slafkovsky is wrong. These are direct quotes.


La LNH n’est pas une ligue de développement. Tu ne joues pas dans la LNH pour te développer. Tu joues dans la LNH parce que tu es capable d’aider ton club à gagner. C’est une ligue de performance. C’est une ligue professionnelle ; les gens paient pour venir voir les joueurs. Le développement, il y a des ligues, pour ça. J’ai coaché dans ces ligues-là, elles sont très bonnes. C’est là qu’on peut faire des essais et erreurs.

André Tourigny

Visiblement lancé, Tourigny a assuré que « tu le vois tout de suite » si un joueur est prêt ou pas à faire le saut, pour de bon, vers le niveau le plus élevé.


« Quand tu n’es pas capable d’exécuter quelque chose qui est normalement ton rôle sans être nerveux, c’est parce que t’es pas rendu là. Je donne souvent le même exemple : même si tu es le meilleur étudiant, tu ne peux pas rentrer en médecine à 12 ans. Tu n’es pas rendu là. Tu ne peux pas rentrer à l’université et recommencer ta première année sept fois en te disant qu’à un moment donné, tu vas l’avoir. Ce n’est pas comme ça que ça marche. Tu vas continuer à te développer, une année à la fois, et quand tu vas maîtriser ta matière, un jour, tu vas être docteur. »

« C’est la même affaire avec la LNH, a ajouté l’entraîneur. Si [un joueur] est nerveux de faire des jeux, qu’il n’a pas confiance avec la rondelle, qu’il a de la misère à dormir le soir parce qu’il n’a pas confiance en lui… Le monde a beau dire “ce n’est pas grave, il est jeune”, mais lui, il faut qu’il vive avec lui-même tous les jours. Il le sait qu’il ne performe pas. Et il est assis à côté d’un gars, dans la chambre, qui sait qu’il a de la misère. Ce n’est pas une position pour se développer. »

 

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Why does it matter who most here wanted? It should be comparing our scouts to other teams' scouts, not our scouts vs HFHabs.
Because the same group of people wanting us to draft Shane Wright are now saying we should have draft Cooley (one year after draft).... Before the draft, Logan Cooley has ''to small'' for the Habs.
 
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Because the same group of people wanting us to draft Shane Wright are now saying we should have draft Cooley (one year after draft).... Before the draft, Logan Cooley has ''to small'' for the Habs.
That doesn't answer my question. Even if the entire fanbase wanted Owen Beck at 1st OA, why does their word mean anything? The results of the scouts compared to the results of other teams' scouts is the only thing that matters.
 

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Basically… Tourigny just said that the plan the Habs have with Slafkovsky is wrong. These are direct quotes.


La LNH n’est pas une ligue de développement. Tu ne joues pas dans la LNH pour te développer. Tu joues dans la LNH parce que tu es capable d’aider ton club à gagner. C’est une ligue de performance. C’est une ligue professionnelle ; les gens paient pour venir voir les joueurs. Le développement, il y a des ligues, pour ça. J’ai coaché dans ces ligues-là, elles sont très bonnes. C’est là qu’on peut faire des essais et erreurs.

André Tourigny

Visiblement lancé, Tourigny a assuré que « tu le vois tout de suite » si un joueur est prêt ou pas à faire le saut, pour de bon, vers le niveau le plus élevé.


« Quand tu n’es pas capable d’exécuter quelque chose qui est normalement ton rôle sans être nerveux, c’est parce que t’es pas rendu là. Je donne souvent le même exemple : même si tu es le meilleur étudiant, tu ne peux pas rentrer en médecine à 12 ans. Tu n’es pas rendu là. Tu ne peux pas rentrer à l’université et recommencer ta première année sept fois en te disant qu’à un moment donné, tu vas l’avoir. Ce n’est pas comme ça que ça marche. Tu vas continuer à te développer, une année à la fois, et quand tu vas maîtriser ta matière, un jour, tu vas être docteur. »

« C’est la même affaire avec la LNH, a ajouté l’entraîneur. Si [un joueur] est nerveux de faire des jeux, qu’il n’a pas confiance avec la rondelle, qu’il a de la misère à dormir le soir parce qu’il n’a pas confiance en lui… Le monde a beau dire “ce n’est pas grave, il est jeune”, mais lui, il faut qu’il vive avec lui-même tous les jours. Il le sait qu’il ne performe pas. Et il est assis à côté d’un gars, dans la chambre, qui sait qu’il a de la misère. Ce n’est pas une position pour se développer. »


Engrish:

The NHL is not a development league. You don't play in the NHL to develop. You play in the NHL because you're capable of helping your club win. It's a performance league. It's a professional league; people pay to come and see the players. There are leagues for development. I've coached in those leagues, and they're very good. That's where you can do trial and error.

André Tourigny

Clearly on the right track, Tourigny assures us that "you can tell right away" whether or not a player is ready to make the leap, for good, to the highest level.


"When you're not able to do something that's normally your role without getting nervous, it's because you're not there yet. I often give the same example: even if you're the best student, you can't get into medical school at 12. You're not there yet. You can't go to university and repeat your first year seven times, telling yourself that at some point you're going to pass. That's not how it works. You're going to keep developing, one year at a time, and when you master your subject, one day you're going to be a doctor."

It's the same thing with the NHL," added the coach. If [a player] is nervous about making plays, if he doesn't have confidence with the puck, if he has trouble sleeping at night because he doesn't have confidence in himself... It's all very well for the world to say 'it's okay, he's young', but he has to live with himself to be able to do that.
 
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Because the same group of people wanting us to draft Shane Wright are now saying we should have draft Cooley (one year after draft).... Before the draft, Logan Cooley has ''to small'' for the Habs.

Nah. There were people who wanted Cooley, and they deserve to have their say. I wanted Wright and am not about to start pretending that Cooley was my guy.
 
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Because the same group of people wanting us to draft Shane Wright are now saying we should have draft Cooley (one year after draft).... Before the draft, Logan Cooley has ''to small'' for the Habs.
First, you need to prove that it's the same people. THEN, yes....that's was fans do. Second guess. Everything.

In what world can we second guess players, coaches and GM's...but hey...scouts? NO WAY! That's out of line man!!!!!
 
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First, you need to prove that it's the same people. THEN, yes....that's was fans do. Second guess. Everything.

In what world can we second guess players, coaches and GM's...but hey...scouts? NO WAY! That's out of line man!!!!!
Completely disagree. It's totally silly for people who screamed for Wright to now say the GM should be fired for not taking Cooley. And it's not like Cooley even went second overall.

It's people doing what they always do, cherrypicking well after the fact.
 

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Because the same group of people wanting us to draft Shane Wright are now saying we should have draft Cooley (one year after draft).... Before the draft, Logan Cooley has ''to small'' for the Habs.
There was a big group of people who moved off of Wright when all the things that made him fall to fourth came out. And Slafkovsky was at the bottom of a lot of peoples lists.
 
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And all last year too.

The fact is he looked good with Dach. I think he needs some talent around him right now more than sheltered minutes or AHL linemates.
 
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And all last year too.

The fact is he looked good with Dach. I think he needs some talent around him right now more than sheltered minutes or AHL linemates.

I cannot understand it.

WHY the hell do you not put him there? You give every other player a shot but not him? And the 2nd line is f***ing broken.

Just f***ing send him down if you're going to do that. It's just so f***ing dumb.
 

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And all last year too.

The fact is he looked good with Dach. I think he needs some talent around him right now more than sheltered minutes or AHL linemates.

We have no shot at the playoffs this year. So... put him on the first and just let him develop there. We're tanking anyway.

Or... send him down.

But you can't just waste him the way we are on that 2nd line. It makes absolutely no sense to me how we're "developing" him.
 
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