Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[Lafleurs Guy]

That's crazy we are blaming other players for slaf lack of success.

How about he make his own plays or finish a play before we blame his linemates lmao

“Blame other players?” No.

But I’ve mentioned this before, it’s a hell of a lot easier for a player to develop if he has someone to bring him along. Kirby Dach looked like the guy who could do it for Slaf. They looked great together in preseason. Dach’s injury f***ed that all up.

Slaf’s on a bad club and I think he’d be better off in the AHl at this point.

 

[HabzSauce]

What is a „project“ ? I hate this word. Every kid drafted is a project, nothing is certain. I don t see why the expectations in a D+2 should be lower for Slaf than for Cooley because he is a project while he has actually been playing with pros for a longer time.

By the way I don t think he is a bust (just like I was defending KK in his D+3) because I believe development can take a long time.

Projects are guys that take longer to develop.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

MSL is not a good coach IMO. He talks a lot but players are not progresing and hockey is unwatchable. He should be assistant coach first and after few years of experience, he can be a head coach. Slafs development is horrible, he should play more and with skilled players, put him in first PP unit. If you wanna continue like this then send him to WJC, he can play where people actually like him (which is something that we cant say about habs fans) and gain a lot of confidence because Slovakia can easily medal this year with that stacked squad. Win-win situation.

I’m not thrilled with Slaf’s development path either. But give credit where it’s due. MSL came in and rescued CC’s career. He revitalized Dach’s too. Players like Barron and Guehle have progressed well under him. He’s done a lot of good.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Put Slafkowsky next to a prime Mario Lemieux and watch how good he would be...

Anyone here think Dach wouldn’t have helped?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

So.
Josh Anderson
Kirby Dach
Terrible team
Lack of depth

What else?

Are you serious?

The guy was number one in a weak draft and hasn’t really been developed well. It’s like 50 games into his career and you’re asking why he’s not scoring? Really?

 

[Lebowski]

Anyone here think Dach wouldn’t have helped?

Would Slafkovsky have helped Dach? Because there needs to be some of that as well when you're given a spot on a top 6. Slaf has done nothing thus far to earn that position, other than being picked 1st overall.

The more I watch him play, the more obvious it becomes that he needs to be in the AHL right now. I think he needs to play a lot of minutes and be relied on as a top producer on his team in order to maximize his offensive skills.

His current situation reminds me a bit of Draisailt's in his rookie season, except the Oilers had the guts to recognize their mistake after burning the first year on his ELC and still send him back to junior.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Would Slafkovsky have helped Dach? Because there needs to be some of that as well when you're given a spot on a top 6. Slaf has done nothing thus far to earn that position, other than being picked 1st overall.

I actually think he would’ve. I advocated for the AHL to start but they looked great together. I was looking forward to seeing them.

The more I watch him play, the more obvious it becomes that he needs to be in the AHL right now. I think he needs to play a lot of minutes and be relied on as a top producer on his team in order to maximize his offensive skills.

His current situation reminds me a bit of Draisailt's in his rookie season, except the Oilers had the guts to recognize their mistake after burning the first year on his ELC and still send him back to junior.

I would put him in the AHL as well. Team him with Roy. That can both come up together next year.

 

[Scriptor]

I actually think he would’ve. I advocated for the AHL to start but they looked great together. I was looking forward to seeing them.

I would put him in the AHL as well. Team him with Roy. That can both come up together next year.

Not a bad idea at all if that's the plan. Rather than bring Roy up, let Slafkovsky and Roy develop some chemistry away from the limelight. Reunite them with Dach next season.

If we don't extend Monahan, reunite them with Newhook instead.

Caufield - Suzuki - Monahan
Slafkovsky - Dach - Roy
RHP - Newhook - Anderson

Caufield - Suzuki- Dach
Slafkovsky - Newhook - Roy
RHP - Dvorak - Anderson

The more I think about it, the more I think Monahan should be extended (3 years) if he remains healthy.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Projects are guys that take longer to develop.

Ok. But how do you decide if the guy is a project when you draft him. It sounds like an excuse to expect less from a prospect to be fair.

 

[bcv]

Posters here just want finished product from the start, which his weird considering the amount of time spent talking about prospects who aren't in the NHL yet

I’d wager that the people talking about prospects a lot are not the ones calling for a playoffs push.

 

[CHfan1]

If we send him down, his cap hit after he returns will be $4,450,000

Because Slafkovsky was on the opening day roster and when the Habs put Dvorak and Price on LTIR if he gets sent down his bonuses get captured in the performance bonus pool. They can use that pool to call him back up and not have his full cap hit (bonuses and all count against the salary cap).

Vancouver did this with Podkolzin. He was on the opening day roster and when they put Poolman on LTIR. They then sent him down and his $850,000 in performance bonuses went into that pool. If he gets recalled his bonuses come out of that pool.

 

[nhlfan9191]

“Blame other players?” No.

But I’ve mentioned this before, it’s a hell of a lot easier for a player to develop if he has someone to bring him along. Kirby Dach looked like the guy who could do it for Slaf. They looked great together in preseason. Dach’s injury f***ed that all up.

Slaf’s on a bad club and I think he’d be better off in the AHl at this point.

I’ve seen Grant McCagg doing this as well. Blaming linemates. The babying of this player is absurd. Nothing is his fault.

 

[Doublechin]

Please send him to the AHL, Laval actually has solid depth and Slaf is an AHL caliber player now and might look good over there. Keeping him pointless game after game is a quick way to shatter whatever confidence he has left. We can't correct a terrible pick but we can try and correct terrible development. Take the L and send him to Laval

I’ve seen Grant McCagg doing this as well. Blaming linemates. The babying of this player is absurd. Nothing is his fault.

I can count on one hand the times he's had the puck this year and created anything special with it, the game is too fast for his thinking

 

[KevSkillz4]

Slaf play much better than last year, but he need to put points. If he can't put points in the next few games, he need to go to Laval and Habs can recall Joshua Roy instead to try him.

I'm a big believer, fan of Slaf since his draft year, but points need to come.

Tonight, that would be fun if he can put 1g, 1a. I hope that.

 

[Scriptor]

Ok. But how do you decide if the guy is a project when you draft him. It sounds like an excuse to expect less from a prospect to be fair.

No, sounds like a plan to expect more from a prospect later.

 

[NotProkofievian]

If we send him down, his cap hit after he returns will be $4,450,000

Why?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I’ve seen Grant McCagg doing this as well. Blaming linemates. The babying of this player is absurd. Nothing is his fault.

I don’t think Josh Anderson is going to help him. I don’t think we really have the depth to help him. That’s not to blame anyone - it is what it is. Why blame Anderson for being Anderson?

We just don’t have the depth to help his development here. Either we put him on the top line or we move him to the AHL. I think it makes sense to have him develop with Roy. Let him find his game again. Dach would’ve been great for him but…

 

[nhlfan9191]

I don’t think Josh Anderson is going to help him. I don’t think we really have the depth to help him. That’s not to blame anyone - it is what it is. Why blame Anderson for being Anderson?

We just don’t have the depth to help his development here. Either we put him on the top line or we move him to the AHL. I think it makes sense to have him develop with Roy. Let him find his game again. Dach would’ve been great for him but…

He should be in the AHL with Roy. If anything Roy should be up instead of Slafkovsky because he’s averaging 2 PPG in the AHL. I have no idea anymore what the **** this management is doing. It’s starting to really feel like they’re tripling down on a mistake they made last year at this point.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He should be in the AHL with Roy. If anything Roy should be up instead of Slafkovsky because he’s averaging 2 PPG in the AHL. I have no idea anymore what the **** this management is doing. It’s starting to really feel like they’re tripling down on a mistake they made last year at this point.

I think the Dach pairing actually made sense. When that went down I guess they decided to test out how he’d do.

I agree, I’d move him down now.

I don’t think he’s nearly as bad as some others do. He doesn’t seem out of place. But I want him putting up points. I think the AHL would help him regain some confidence.

 

[Kennerback]

His basic stats for sure arent appealing. He's creating opportunities, hes using his body, and hes learning each game. Dach would have been massive to his development this year. Anderson doesnt make anyone better on the team, hes a straight line getter done type of player. That doesnt benefit him at all. Ive liked the strides hes made as a player, hes in a bad position on a team with terrible depth to help him. So eye test I definitely disagree. Itll come if he keeps playing this way

If there’s there’s a pecking order for performance, Slafkofsky should be off the PP and off the top-9. Ylonen and Evans have more goals and Pezetta had his 1 assist in less games. What Slaf has is a good first pass which is usually the prerogative of a D. He’s good at digging the puck but so is Evans.

He doesn’t Push offense. Goes to extreme lengths to avoid shooting at all costs. He honestly looks like the net is a complete afterthought to his game. Ylonen, Evans and Pezetta are way more hungry to score. IDK where we go from here.

 

[Skala24]

give him more time with Suz a Cau and PP1, if nothing happen --> Laval

 

[RationalExpectations]

No, sounds like a plan to expect more from a prospect later.

So how do you decide Slaf is a project but not Cooley for example ? (Serious question)

 

[SlafCaufield]

i cant help but think the Dach injury really derails Slaf''s season

 

[RationalExpectations]

i cant help but think the Dach injury really derails Slaf''s season

I think he should be just fine with Newhook.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I’ve seen Grant McCagg doing this as well. Blaming linemates. The babying of this player is absurd. Nothing is his fault.

The babying?

He got f***ing booed in the arena, got booed during his selection, he had an entire summer of people on twitter blasting him because they didn't take Shane Wright.. and the whole organization is working with him to keep his confidence up to shield him from the toxic negativity, childish and unreasonable behaviour from grown ass humans wanting him to fail at every turn.

The worst part is there's no self awareness or maturation because those same people did the same thing to Reinbacher to the point another fan had to make him a book of nice tweets to counter-act the incessant disgusting behavior of the fans.

There's no babying, there's people trying to pull back on the relentless and rampant stupidity that is angled at a 19 year old kid.