Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2

[Rob Sense]

Look at the hands though? Caufield like. Skating can be improved. For 4th roundet

Caufield is engaged in the play even if he is small. Dumais avoids traffic. Farrell is light years ahead of him. Doubt Dumais makes it in NA...maybe Europe.

 

[dinodebino]

Dumais is 5'9 and Rouleau outscored him in each of his Q seasons. He was 2, 2.5 and 3 PPG in his last 3 seasons. He never made it to NHL.

He was too stubborn to change style in the A. Rouleau was a stud. I followed him at the time. Burns wanted him to adapt as a pro and he didn’t want to. And then brain cancer…

 

[montreal]

Roy with just 10 pts in the last 11 games. Haven't gotten around to seeing much of him or Kidney, not really worried about points with either since it's all about how much can they improve their physical tools, adding mass/strength, improving speed/skating. Next year will be much more telling.

 

[Paddyjack]

Complete non factor again tonight against Drumondville. In fact at some point I noticed the game was much better when he was not on the ice. Things were happening then. The guy reminds me of Drouin.

 

[Toene]

Dumais is a classic type that will look dynamic in the Q but really struggle when he turns pro. 5'-9" and 174lbs. His skating and shot is just not that good enough to overcome NHL challenges.

M Perreault round 2 is what I say.

I think Roy has a good shot at top 6 quality if he works at the right areas. Better skating and more strength. Pick corners and score goals with his chances.

Perreault was a really good middle-six player during his prime.

 

[Paddyjack]

Complete non factor again tonight against Drumondville. In fact at some point I noticed the game was much better when he was not on the ice. Things were happening then. The guy reminds me of Drouin.

Well look at that, maybe Josh is reading the forum and saw my comment... 3 goals 2 assists tonight ;p

 

[Habs Halifax]

Perreault was a really good middle-six player during his prime.

Yup! Roy could be another Toffoli or Perreault type. Something around that kind of value.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Complete non factor again tonight against Drumondville. In fact at some point I noticed the game was much better when he was not on the ice. Things were happening then. The guy reminds me of Drouin.

After watching the Devils run over us, one would think the answer is to get faster and not slower.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Roy got an empty net goal and a pass on another empty net goal since Patrick Roy pulled his goalie with 10 minutes left to play. But Joshua sent Ethan Gauthier on 2 against 0 breakaway and Gauthier decided to shoot and was stopped.

Interesting that Roy's actual coaches in the Q and on Team Canada use him in tight situations, but the narrative here is that he sucks defensively.

 

[WinterLion]

Interesting that Roy's actual coaches in the Q and on Team Canada use him in tight situations, but the narrative here is that he sucks defensively.

This is so true. His role at the WJC was really interesting. Obviously his coaches liked having him out there in tight games.

 

[morhilane]

Interesting that Roy's actual coaches in the Q and on Team Canada use him in tight situations, but the narrative here is that he sucks defensively.

That only tell us that Joshua Roy was better than some of his peer defensively on that Team Canada...

 

[Adam Michaels]

This is so true. His role at the WJC was really interesting. Obviously his coaches liked having him out there in tight games.

In many games at the WJC, Roy was either one of the most used forward on Team Canada. In fact, on a few of them, he was the most used (more than McTavish, Bedard, and Johnson). And it wasn't because he was stretching his shifts. It's because the coaches trusted him on both ends of the ice.

And Roy in an interview a few weeks ago mention that he's not as focused on his production as he'd be previous years because he's putting his efforts in other areas that will help him be a more complete player.

 

[BaseballCoach]

In many games at the WJC, Roy was either one of the most used forward on Team Canada. In fact, on a few of them, he was the most used (more than McTavish, Bedard, and Johnson). And it wasn't because he was stretching his shifts. It's because the coaches trusted him on both ends of the ice.

And Roy in an interview a few weeks ago mention that he's not as focused on his production as he'd be previous years because he's putting his efforts in other areas that will help him be a more complete player.

The charges that Roy does not have a non-stop motor and that he slows things down were also leveled at Suzuki during his D+1 and D+2. Not everyone skates around like a chicken with his head cut off, and you don't always need to do so to be effective. A lot of the time, it is about understanidng time and space and what plays need to be made.

 

[Wateredgarden]

The charges that Roy does not have a non-stop motor and that he slows things down were leveled at Suzuki during his D+1 and D+2 as well. Not everyone skates around like a chicken with his head cut off, and you don't always need to do so to be effective. A lot of the time, it is about understanidng time and space and what plays need to be made.

When we first had Suzuki in pre-season i was convinced this guy was a bust, it seemed he wasn't doing anything at all on the ice, almost as if he was sleeping. While Kotkaniemi was very noticeable and he busted.

 

[Legend123]

The charges that Roy does not have a non-stop motor and that he slows things down were leveled at Suzuki during his D+1 and D+2 as well. Not everyone skates around like a chicken with his head cut off, and you don't always need to do so to be effective. A lot of the time, it is about understanidng time and space and what plays need to be made.

Well that would be very ideal. A high iq player like Suzuki or tofolli but the odds of that are quite small.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Well that would be very ideal. A high iq player like Suzuki or tofolli but the odds of that are quite small.

For sure, Roy will not be Suzuki, but might he possibly be like Toffoli who usually but not always scores over 20?

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Interesting that Roy's actual coaches in the Q and on Team Canada use him in tight situations, but the narrative here is that he sucks defensively.

He impressed me defensively in the pre-season game I attended.

 

[BaseballCoach]

He impressed me defensively in the pre-season game I attended.

More importantly he seems to have made a positive defensive impression on the various guys who have coached him. They're the ones putting him out there defending late game leads. In the end, who cares what fans like you or I think?

 

[xX SEYF Xx]

Still Roy lost a few spots, imo, in the team prospects ranking
But what do I know! it's been times where Roy wouldve been our best prospect by far and all the hopes wouldve been on his shoulders. Luckily not the case anymore

 

[Legend123]

For sure, Roy will not be Suzuki, but might he possibly be like Toffoli who usually but not always scores over 20?

I hope so. The more I watch him the more I lose faith but let's hope for a top 6 or top 9 career

 

[Andrei79]

I can't get behind the Suzuki comparison. Even if you ignore the discrepancy in draft pedigree, Suzuki didn't outright suck in his first training camp. He had pacing and strength issues, but there were flashes of his creativity and hockey IQ. Roy looks like he's years away and I'm not sure how much of his offense will actually translate if he doesn't add a number of elements to his game.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I can't get behind the Suzuki comparison. Even if you ignore the discrepancy in draft pedigree, Suzuki didn't outright suck in his first training camp. He had pacing and strength issues, but there were flashes of his creativity and hockey IQ. Roy looks like he's years away and I'm not sure how much of his offense will actually translate if he doesn't add a number of elements to his game.

Roy was great in his first training camp.
He attended his 2nd training camp with the habs this past summer.

 

[Andrei79]

Roy was great in his first training camp.
The past summer he had his 2nd training camp with the habs.

Who are you answering to ? I didn't say otherwise. Posters were mentioning Roy in relation to Suzuki's first training camp, which would have been his second if he was drafted here.

 

[morhilane]

Who are you answering to ? I didn't say otherwise. Posters were mentioning Roy in relation to Suzuki's first training camp, which would have been his second if he was drafted here.

Roy had broken fingers at his 2nd camp and still flashed some good stuff despite playing on the 4th line with scrubs. I don't think it's a fair comparison. Had Roy not had broken fingers, he probably would have been given more opportunities.

But at the same time, the Habs didn't need to evaluate him like they did the others, he already had a development plan with the Phoenix that they approved.

 

[jfm133]

Look at the speed difference between Suzuki at 19 and Suzuki now. It is not close. Not every player will be able to make such an improvement. Il don't know if Roy will be able to do it. This will be the key fo him. Remember Suzuki at the WJC at 19 years old. He was practically a non factor because he was too slow. Roy is facing the same challenge. That being said, Roy did not have much of a break in the last year. His summer was short.