Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2

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Not at all. Even some north Americans like Jeff Skinner did figure skating when they were young. A guy I knew did it at like age 7. He was the best skater in the league growing up...
I know, I beleive you. It sure helps to move around with ease. Even with bigger players like Matthews, I don't know if he did figure skating but his skating skills helps him a lot.
 
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ZUKI

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I think people mix up his skating with his style of play, he doesn't move his feet enough as he likes to slow things down, not saying his skating doesn't need work.
I agree with you.
I think also that his skating reputation came from the season before he was drafted. He wasn't in a good shape and during the summer he then lost 20 pounds . Last year he was already faster than the previous season.
 

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I think people mix up his skating with his style of play, he doesn't move his feet enough as he likes to slow things down, not saying his skating doesn't need work.
He needs to gain explosiveness in general, but he also tends to try to anticipate too much rather than disrupt. It's a balance to be achieved for certain players.
 

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I would guess that Toffoli is in the bottom 10th percentile in the NHL in skating. He truly is quite slow and in a league where there just aren't many slow players any more. He is exceptionally smart which helps him to be in the right place and start his feet before others can diagnose the play. This is exactly how Ryan O'Reilly, Sean Couturier and Mark Stone are able to still be so effective despite often being the slowest forward on the ice.

I don't think his skating is that bad. Below average is what I would say. Stone is a good comparison though
 

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In the World Juniors he has shown he could also be a good defensive forward as that what he was used for after the first game. The coach really trusted him in that role and in the semis he was the most used forward for instance. He's got a good mind to read plays, not only offensive skills.

I do wish he improved his skating, especially his explosiveness. Once he gets going he's alright but in the NHL those quick accelerations are key.
 
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i just come back from a Chicoutimi-Sherbrooke game, Roy, aside from a couple good pp appearance, was a total non factor. He is far from dominating the play or controlling the game. Of course the Olympic size rink we unfortunately have here might not help his game but I was really disappointed of his play.
 

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i just come back from a Chicoutimi-Sherbrooke game, Roy, aside from a couple good pp appearance, was a total non factor. He is far from dominating the play or controlling the game. Of course the Olympic size rink we unfortunately have here might not help his game but I was really disappointed of his play.

He just came out of a hot streak, so it's likely it was just an off-night. Hopefully.
 
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i just come back from a Chicoutimi-Sherbrooke game, Roy, aside from a couple good pp appearance, was a total non factor. He is far from dominating the play or controlling the game. Of course the Olympic size rink we unfortunately have here might not help his game but I was really disappointed of his play.
Pretty much what I witnessed several times last year. Parent drove the play all season long. Even if he lead the league in points last season, he was not dominant during games. We'll see how he develops; I was hoping he'd put the team on his back this year, but it hasn't happened thus far. He's still a good prospect mind you, but not as great as a lot of people think/thought (especially those who were saying that he had a chance at making it to the NHL as early as this season back in spring).
 
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Pretty much what I witnessed several times last year. Parent drove the play all season long. Even if he lead the league in points last season, he was not dominant during games. We'll see how he develops; I was hoping he'd put the team on his back this year, but it hasn't happened thus far. He's still a good prospect mind you, but not as great as a lot of people think/thought (especially those who were saying that he had a chance at making it to the NHL as early as this season back in spring).
Just checked out his stats, and Im curious who this undrafted C, same age as roy and a goal scoring machine at 6'1 190lbs :

Justin Gill - 12gp 15g 11a 26pts
Josh Roy - 10gp 6g 13a 19pts
 
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I was at the game last night against Cap Breton. The guys is talented but as in every game I have watched him so far he was floating all night. Frankly, given his stats I would trade him right now against a high first if possible. I don't believe in this guy reaching the NHL.
 
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I was at the game last night against Cap Breton. The guys is talented but as in every game I have watched him so far he was floating all night. Frankly, given his stats I would trade him right now against a high first if possible. I don't believe in this guy reaching the NHL.
Regrettably, what you view as floating is Roy’s going at full blast. Such is the state of this player’s skating ability. There is no cure.
 
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I was at the game last night against Cap Breton. The guys is talented but as in every game I have watched him so far he was floating all night. Frankly, given his stats I would trade him right now against a high first if possible. I don't believe in this guy reaching the NHL.
There is not a single team in the NHL who would give a first rounder for a guy who was drafted in the 5th round last year, and is still playing junior.
 

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Mike Riberio had a fine and long career playing in that mode.

That said Mike was more talented than Roy probably. He was unique.

And I love Roy.

I was at the game last night against Cap Breton. The guys is talented but as in every game I have watched him so far he was floating all night. Frankly, given his stats I would trade him right now against a high first if possible. I don't believe in this guy reaching the NHL.

You don't trade one of the most promising Queb prospects of the last few years. You ride it out. If his skating stops him from being an NHLer, so be it. You take the loss.
 

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Regrettably, what you view as floating is Roy’s going at full blast. Such is the state of this player’s skating ability. There is no cure.

Not saying you're wrong, but several players in history managed to overcome bad skating to have good careers in the NHL. And I don't buy the argument that today's game is different. Style of play is cyclic and changes every 5 years.

Phil Esposito, Luc Robitaille, Mike Ribeiro, whatever. There are many.
 

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That said Mike was more talented than Roy probably. He was unique.

And I love Roy.



You don't trade one of the most promising Queb prospects of the last few years. You ride it out. If his skating stops him from being an NHLer, so be it. You take the loss.
Roy had an injury and lost time in camp. He then went back to junior and produced well. He has been quiet the last 4 games and I am wondering if he is playing through an injury.
 
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Paddyjack

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Roy had an injury and lost time in camp. He then went back to junior and produced well. He has been quiet the last 4 games and I am wondering if he is playing through an injury.
Maybe, but my biggest issue with him last night was not his skating like some said, but more his willingness to get engaged to the game. He seems a bit disinterested. It's not that he didn't create good things, he did from time to time, but while his teammates are giving their 110% he is going around the ice like Drouin sometimes.
 

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Maybe, but my biggest issue with him last night was not his skating like some said, but more his willingness to get engaged to the game. He seems a bit disinterested. It's not that he didn't create good things, he did from time to time, but while his teammates are giving their 110% he is going around the ice like Drouin sometimes.
The term 110% ranks right up there with"pull yourself up by your boot straps". Try it sometime and see how far you get. If he is playing hurt going 110%(?) maybe result becoming more hurt and counter productive. The coaches will know what is going on.
 

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The term 110% ranks right up there with"pull yourself up by your boot straps". Try it sometime and see how far you get. If he is playing hurt going 110%(?) maybe result becoming more hurt and counter productive. The coaches will know what is going on.
More excuses IMO.

I was watching the best player in the world last night, McDavid, and is he coasting along? Nope, giving it all and it shows. If Roy wants to make it to the NHL, he needs to show an eagerness for it in the Junior.
 

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More excuses IMO.

I was watching the best player in the world last night, McDavid, and is he coasting along? Nope, giving it all and it shows. If Roy wants to make it to the NHL, he needs to show an eagerness for it in the Junior.
Was he playing hurt?
 

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Roy can improve his skating and, if he does, he will add a dimension to his game that will make him more unpredictable and better, overall. right now, he does not carry the puck and looks to pass it to line mates so they can be the play drivers.

Suzuki improved his skating. So can Roy.

Roy also has a good work ethic since joining Sherbrooke and, under the tutelage of MONTREAL'S DEVELOPMENT TEAM, he should be able to improve his skating.

There are no guarantees with any prospect, but Roy has the IQ, shot, ability to create passing ;ones by threatening to use that shot, decent physical play and better than advertised defensive acumen to become an interesting player at the NHL level, perhaps as a secondary goal-scorer on a third line and a PP specialist?
 
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More excuses IMO.

I was watching the best player in the world last night, McDavid, and is he coasting along? Nope, giving it all and it shows. If Roy wants to make it to the NHL, he needs to show an eagerness for it in the Junior.
Why are you comparing Roy to a generational player, lol?

What works for Mcdavid doesnt need to work for Roy. Roy is just like Toffoli, a guy that cant hack it because of his skating but is useful because of the rest of his skillset.
 

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