Roy's strengths are obvious. As are his weaknesses. The AHL is the best for Roy right now. Like as of today. But, if he continues to produce like he has the first 5 games, calling him up here and there will be good for him as well. Let him see what the show looks like and what he needs to do to get there. His scoring ability and hockey sense seems top level. If he gets that skating up to par, he could be very special.
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When you have 11 points in 5 games and are still a minus in the +/- that means you are on the ice for a lot of goals against. Roy needs to work on defensive positioning and decision-making, and Houle has stated this.
I have no doubt Roy has the will to defend, but he needs to work on the HOW before getting exposed 10 times more in the show.
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Spicy take, but is he the guy we’ve been looking for to complement the Suzuki line? Smart player with vision who can complement Suzuki and caufield and creates another shooting threat.
May be a spicy one but if we do have something there we’d have the making of something special in the top6
Caufield -Suzuki- Roy
Newhook- Dach- slaf
Is really starting to look like something that could work long term
May be a spicy one but if we do have something there we’d have the making of something special in the top6
Caufield -Suzuki- Roy
Newhook- Dach- slaf
Is really starting to look like something that could work long term
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Keeping him down in the A at this point is a must..........Could they bring him up in January? Maybe, but more than likely he should stay down for the year.
The confidence he will get from this, is huge.
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Agreed… I can see why he would favour one side of the ice though, no ahl winger gets this much exposure by being positionally sound and a +2; scorers gotta score.
Correct, and he is not the last good 3C to ever play hockey. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with young guys playing on a third line!!
Shutt came in a LW behind Frank Mahovlich, Marc Tardif and was in a mix with a slew of other lesser talents such as Chuck Lefley, Murray Wilson, Randy Rota. Please don't cite centers, RWs and D for Price sake.
Shutt played on the fourth line to start and graduated to the third line with Henri Richard later in the year.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with young guys playing on a third line!!
This isn't about Roy per se, but rather me challenging the statement that guys must be brought up into the role they are 'destined for'. That comment was not well thought through. In real life, it happens only rarely.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with young guys playing on a third line!!
I agree with the conclusion, but confidence is not the reason. He does not lack confidence. He lacks situational awareness, in a league playing at higher speed than Junior, where he figured it out. A guy like Roy wth average skating at best NEEEDS to be positionally astute over 200 feet to not be a liability.
He'll get there, I have no doubt. Maybe even by Jan-Feb. If not, by end of year, I would think..
Agreed. Kid is doing great. Getting ice time and scoring. As a rookie, I also fully expect him to have dry spells and poor performances but better to work through and figure those out at a lower level. When he turns those moments around, he’ll learn what it takes to continue progressing.
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Roy just needs to be shown the correct D side of the game and made to play it - the more he does the more it will become second nature
Will he be a selke winner ?of course no
But he needs to improve that side
But at the end of the day offense is his game
Will he be a selke winner ?of course no
But he needs to improve that side
But at the end of the day offense is his game
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All players his age need to make improvements in this area but he is very good defensively for his age and it will not be a problem. He was absolutely dominant last season defensively in the Q and at the WJC.
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At the WJC I agree but in the Q, they are games that I needed to look the score sheet to be sure if he was playing because he was invisible and some other games, he look like by far the best player in the Q.
He needs to works on his constancy
larek
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That's what I thot that he was a pretty decent
In junior could play both ends of ice
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He was very consistent all year imo at least as consistent as you can possibly expect a teenager to be.
It's true but to make sure we can agree on what the purpose of the analysis is here: What he "was" defensively when he first came up from that ridiculous AAA team to now: Roy hadn't seen the inside of his own blueline probably since MAHG
. It 's a big improvement to say the least.Work ethic, conditionning, Dplay, etc... He's now a hockey player or close to a more finished product , whereas he was a football offensive player prior. Consistancy will always be an issue for those types, I feel he's a sniper at heart but he's so good offensively that even his passing is elite. Like if MaxPac had that high IQ and play construction in him...
My point is that that type of player always "feel it going" when the play is offensively oriented. But the fact he improved on the other side of the game is very encouraging.
larek
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After looking at his stats - not too worried about him- Suzuki has been minus in every season as a hab
Roy had better plus minus in junior in fact great plus minus better than Suzuki
No prob with Roy
Roy had better plus minus in junior in fact great plus minus better than Suzuki
No prob with Roy
BLONG7
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Suzuki has played vs the top lines in the league, with a weak D on the team, and no goalie the last 2-3 seasons....
The minus stat for Suzuki is not, just on him............zero support from the entire group when it comes to that stat line....
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The Habs are not winning anything right now. Roy will develop in the AHL just as well as in the show. The only upside of calling him up is fan satisfaction. In the AHL, he is an elite weapon and improves the team's offensive potential, which can significantly help the development of other players down there like Mailloux and Farrell. Talent breeds talent.
Not rushing him cannot hurt him whereas rushing could hurt his development
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Another morning with Josh being mvp of the ahl.
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Suzuki was one of the best defensive forward in the OHL. Although he is not dominant defensively in the NHL, he was hardly ever a defensive liability.
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I think this is the best argument for keeping him down there. Playing with players that make you better is the best development there is.
larek
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Come on -zero support??
That's a bit much
And Roy had a better plus minus in junior
After looking at his stats I don't see a big problem
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Right. Learning to become a pro at AHL level is a great thing that should had been used with many others in the past (KK, Lafrenière, Slaf) to name a few.
Roy went back to junior and played on the pk instead of aiming for another scoring title. He played solid D everywhere last year. Being a minus is probably more due to playing lots of minutes on a team that is not winning many games.
I haven’t seen the rocket play this year, has anyone seen Roy getting constantly owned defensively or anything? He has to know he’s not going to get called up for playing D, but Houle doesn’t usually let rookies get away with playing single zone hockey.
Any takes or analysis on his play this year?
I haven’t seen the rocket play this year, has anyone seen Roy getting constantly owned defensively or anything? He has to know he’s not going to get called up for playing D, but Houle doesn’t usually let rookies get away with playing single zone hockey.
Any takes or analysis on his play this year?
