Joshua Ho-Sang, Center/Right-wing, 1st Round

[Felix Unger]

I just read on islanders point blank that Ho-sang is ranked 10th best islander prospect by the hockey news, while collberg is ranked 5th. This to me is crazy, it should be reversed. I just dont get the hate for Ho-sang.

Here's all the insight you need:

“We don’t have that horse. We knew that when we traded [Ho-Sang],†Boughner told the Windsor Star Tuesday as the team cleaned out its lockers. “The hockey world, and the true people that know what was going on inside our four walls, know that.

“It was mandatory that we had to trade him. For many, many, numerous internal reasons, the people that truly know what went on behind the scenes would understand why we had to trade him.â€

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juni...-boughner-mandatory-that-we-had-to-trade-him/

Throwing a 19 y/o kid kid you traded months ago under the bus citing unmentioned pseudo-secret wink-wink nudge-nudge "internal reasons" is pretty despicable. Considering the whole Simmons article with the Globetrotters thing, which Ho-Sang skewered for playing the "I'm not a basketball player" card against Rychel/Boughner, it's pretty obvious what happened. There were tensions, which there may be normally with hot-shot arrogant hockey players. But those tensions got escalated by the "adults".

Boughner is going to have a harder time getting a big-time head coaching job because of that statement. I'm not saying he won't ever get one, but having a proclivity to throw players under the bus when they can't respond won't go over well with pros. I'd be surprised if GM's didn't notice this. Boughner is now a Tortorella type, at best. It was stupid + imprudent for Boughner to do that.

There are lots of people who are just going to think that 'Boughner said he was bad so he must be' view.

 

[SI90]

So when is this kid gonna play in the pros? hes a beast they need to get him on the nhl roster

Between 2-4 years.

No reason why he shouldnt take the Strome and Nelson paths to the NHL.

 

[CREW99AW]

So when is this kid gonna play in the pros? hes a beast they need to get him on the nhl roster

He will be a year too young for the AHL in 2015-2016.

So, unless he has an amazing camp and forces the nyi hand, he will be back in juniors in 2015-2016.

 

[RMimagery]

I hope by 2017/'18. Looking forward to the dynamic young group that will be in place by then.

 

[rockhouse15]

So when is this kid gonna play in the pros? hes a beast they need to get him on the nhl roster

Give him this year and one more in the AHL similar to Ryan Strome. Like Strome he needs to work on bulking up to around 185-190 at least and work on his play off-the puck. He and Barzal should be competing for a top-6 spot at the 2017 training camp. However, he is just so good on the puck and already a much better skater than Strome was at the age that he might just be a top-9 injury or two away from making and sticking with the team in the middle of the 16-17 season.

 

[IslandersFan17]

Friends of mine who are rangers fans continue to urge that if Ho-Sang keeps sitting in juniors he's going to continue to get a huge head and never develop.

Others tell me the kid is a flash in the pan and isn't consistent enough of a scorer to be anything more than a decent third line player who will dazzle once a year at best....

Man, I can't wait, I think MDC has a shot at making the islanders, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Ho-Sang push their hands,

 

[seafoam]

If a right winger goes down in camp, I'd love to see Ho-Sang given a legitimate shot to make the team.

 

[boredmale]

If a right winger goes down in camp, I'd love to see Ho-Sang given a legitimate shot to make the team.

MY guess is Petrov makes it this year before Ho Sang

 

[charlie1]

JHS is tremendously skilled but needs to work on his strength. He is knocked off his skates quite easily and would not be able to withstand the physicality of the NHL. One more year in juniors and another in the AHL should allow him to a) get stronger, and b) anticipate the opposition better so that he can avoid or deflect contact. 2017-2018 ETA.

 

[seafoam]

MY guess is Petrov makes it this year before Ho Sang

No question.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

No reason not to 'let' Ho-Sang become a dominant player in juniors this season, and then afforded a full year or two in the AHL, before being thrown to the NHL wolves because of his wow-factor.

He's got game and showmanship. He's got lots to learn and experience.

We've got lots of other options that afford him the proper development time.

For my taste, he was far too non-dominant last season and still has a good bit to prove in the CHL. Would love to see him in Helsinki as well.

 

[2ndGenIslander]

No reason not to 'let' Ho-Sang become a dominant player in juniors this season, and then afforded a full year or two in the AHL, before being thrown to the NHL wolves because of his wow-factor.

He's got game and showmanship. He's got lots to learn and experience.

We've got lots of other options that afford him the proper development time.

For my taste, he was far too non-dominant last season and still has a good bit to prove in the CHL. Would love to see him in Helsinki as well.

agreed...dressing this kid at the NHL level within the next two years would be a mistake. This isn't the 2008 islanders who have nothing else going on so we can dress premature rookies or old duds like reasoner. Plenty of forward depth gives this kid as much time as he needs to develop

 

[scott99]

No reason not to 'let' Ho-Sang become a dominant player in juniors this season, and then afforded a full year or two in the AHL, before being thrown to the NHL wolves because of his wow-factor.

He's got game and showmanship. He's got lots to learn and experience.

We've got lots of other options that afford him the proper development time.

For my taste, he was far too non-dominant last season and still has a good bit to prove in the CHL. Would love to see him in Helsinki as well.

I think his season was somewhat a disappointment goal scoring wise. Scored 32 his draft year, and under 20 last season. I wanna see 40 goals if he goes back to juniors this year.

 

[BroadwayJay*]

I think his season was somewhat a disappointment goal scoring wise. Scored 32 his draft year, and under 20 last season. I wanna see 40 goals if he goes back to juniors this year.

He needs to play on a good team. It is hard to dominate when you're in the "Pulock" situation where your team is absolute garbage save for you.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

He needs to play on a good team. It is hard to dominate when you're in the "Pulock" situation where your team is absolute garbage save for you.

That's not true at all. Niagara underachieved badly to start the season, but going into the year they were actually supposed to be one of the better teams in the Central Division.

Their season turned around not just with the acquisition of Ho-Sang, but also because Perlini returned from injury and they acquired Hope to solidify their goaltending situation.

Were they ever considered favorites? No. They weren't as deep as the Soos or the Eries or the Oshawas of the league. But they were far from garbage.

 

[BroadwayJay*]

That's not true at all. Niagara underachieved badly to start the season, but going into the year they were actually supposed to be one of the better teams in the Central Division.

Their season turned around not just with the acquisition of Ho-Sang, but also because Perlini returned from injury and they acquired Hope to solidify their goaltending situation.

Were they ever considered favorites? No. They weren't as deep as the Soos or the Eries or the Oshawas of the league. But they were far from garbage.

Windsor was also not good. And they collapsed when they traded Ho-Sang.

Maybe they weren't "Brandon" bad when Pulock was drafted, but this was not a good team. And comparing them to Oshawa, Erie, or Soo? Not even in the same league... yet playing in the same league.

You can say they underachieved, but it is no coincidence that their season turned around so substantially when Ho-Sang arrived. They started the season like 2-12 or something. That's not good.

I won't argue it with you though, I watch a lot of junior hockey but not as much as other people. You may be one of those people. You may not.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Windsor was also not good. And they collapsed when they traded Ho-Sang.

Maybe they weren't "Brandon" bad when Pulock was drafted, but this was not a good team. And comparing them to Oshawa, Erie, or Soo? Not even in the same league... yet playing in the same league.

You can say they underachieved, but it is no coincidence that their season turned around so substantially when Ho-Sang arrived. They started the season like 2-12 or something. That's not good.

I won't argue it with you though, I watch a lot of junior hockey but not as much as other people. You may be one of those people. You may not.

Re: the bolded.

It also coincided with Perlini returning from injury. He missed the first 20-odd games of the season. It also coincided with Hope arriving from Owen Sound.

That's not to say Ho-Sang wasn't also a big reason for their improvement, but you're making it sound like he was the only reason. Adding two star players (Ho-Sang via trade and Perlini via return from injury) and a starting goalie (Hope) were the catalysts for the resurgence.

For the record, I do watch a lot of junior hockey, specifically the OHL. Since I follow a conference rival of Niagara's, I was quite aware where they were supposed to be ranked going into the season since it would directly affect my team's playoff chances. Niagara was definitely supposed to be one of the teams contending for the Central Division title.

I've seen a lot of truly garbage teams in my time. Hell, I follow one (Kingston hasn't won a playoff round since 1998). Niagara's early season record may have suggested they are one, but the Niagara that ended the season was the one most pundits expected to see all year long.

 

[13th Floor]

Re: the bolded.

It also coincided with Perlini returning from injury. He missed the first 20-odd games of the season. It also coincided with Hope arriving from Owen Sound.

That's not to say Ho-Sang wasn't also a big reason for their improvement, but you're making it sound like he was the only reason. Adding two star players (Ho-Sang via trade and Perlini via return from injury) and a starting goalie (Hope) were the catalysts for the resurgence.

For the record, I do watch a lot of junior hockey, specifically the OHL. Since I follow a conference rival of Niagara's, I was quite aware where they were supposed to be ranked going into the season since it would directly affect my team's playoff chances. Niagara was definitely supposed to be one of the teams contending for the Central Division title.

I've seen a lot of truly garbage teams in my time. Hell, I follow one (Kingston hasn't won a playoff round since 1998). Niagara's early season record may have suggested they are one, but the Niagara that ended the season was the one most pundits expected to see all year long.

Re: The bolded. That sounds awful.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Re: The bolded. That sounds awful.

Add to that dubious record, the Kingston franchise has never won a league championship, never made it to a league championship, has only finished first in their division one time in franchise history, and has made it to the third round only twice in franchise history.

Now THAT is a garbage team.

 

[rockhouse15]

Re: The bolded. That sounds awful.

Sounds like being an Isles fan born after 1985.

 

[seafoam]

Sounds like being an Isles fan born after 1985.

Came here to post this.

I'm legally allowed to drink and I have yet to see the Isles win a playoff round.

 

[13th Floor]

Sounds like being an Isles fan born after 1985.

Came here to post this.

I'm legally allowed to drink and I have yet to see the Isles win a playoff round.

Yes. That was the joke.

 

[The Underboss]

http://islanderspointblank.com/news/rookie-camp-catching-up-with-joshua-ho-sang/

SYOSSET, N.Y. – Back for another day of practice at IceWorks, the Islanders’ rookies had an early start to their workweek. The group hit the ice around 8:45 with Bridgeport Sound Tigers coach Brent Thompson running the roughly hour-long session.

The group was put through the usual drills and the goaltenders received some individualized attention during the practice. The rookies have been on the Island for the last four days now preparing for training camp, which begins later this week.

Only a handful of players have a chance of making the cut for the Islanders this season, the rest will be headed to Bridgeport, juniors or college. Joshua Ho-Sang likely fits into this category, barring an outstanding performance at camp, but he’s enjoyed the last few days of rookie camp.

 

[CodeE]

Figured we should bump this thread due to Ho-Sang getting sent home from camp for being late.

Good disciplined move from Garth. Ho-Sang wasn't making the team in the first place and this move will hopefully light a fire under his ass to be professional from now on.

On the other hand, if Ho-Sang is traded before the season starts I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Selanne00008]

I don't wanna say he should let it slide, but I think camp would be a great experience for him.

How about an embarassing team apology in front of everyone, followed by 100 wind sprints and 200 pushups at center ice while everyone else practices, then be sent home for the day?