Joshua Ho-Sang, Center/Right-wing, 1st Round

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Dutch Frost

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Josh Not invited to Team Canada and rants - PASSION

Nino Subjected to the 4th line and sent to the minors and not invited for a call up with the club then wants a trade - Immature brat/ Primadona/ Cancer


LMAO lol keep ya honest Honest Islander fans! For the record I like the fact that Josh is ranting and I liked the fact that Nino felt snubbed. I want guys to show passion and anger. It makes them want it / prove it more
 

A Pointed Stick

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Josh Not invited to Team Canada and rants - PASSION

Nino Subjected to the 4th line and sent to the minors and not invited for a call up with the club then wants a trade - Immature brat/ Primadona/ Cancer


LMAO lol keep ya honest Honest Islander fans! For the record I like the fact that Josh is ranting and I liked the fact that Nino felt snubbed. I want guys to show passion and anger. It makes them want it / prove it more

Actually Dutch, Nino refused to play whereas HS appears to want to go play great hockey for us. You can't compare the two. One has a chip on his shoulder, the other is just a chip (prairie).
 

Gfrolek

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I think it's ridiculous that Ho-Sang wasn't invited to the World Junior camp but unfortunately there's controversy every year up here in Canada about the World Junior team. However, most of this doesn't make the news in the US. As an example, Brent Sutter (2013-14 coach) didn't pick Connor Brown (128 pts. in the OHL - Toronto draft pick) or Daniel Nurse (OHL player - Edm. pick) last year. The Toronto press went crazy as they thought a Western Canadian boy (Sutter) was ignoring Ontario players. I think this is more of a case of having too many players to pick from than a cultural thing. As an Islander fan and a Canadian I hope Ho-Sang plays his way onto the team by having a great start to the year.
I thought about it a bit this morning, and I believe this is cultural. Maybe Broadway Jay is right - he should come south. If a top young player was shooting his mouth off a la Ho-Sang in relation to USA Basketball, he'd probably get a call from Coach K or Jim Boeheim. They'd handle the problem, circle the wagons, and coordinate a media strategy as opposed to letting it fester as a personal problem. They'd also do everything they could to improve his game and make him a less selfish player. Veteran players would certainly be employed to help in that capacity.

Hockey Canada just doesn't want to become (culturally) American. That's really what this is about.
 

A Pointed Stick

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Its a bit more than that. He was basically deemed academically ineligible and barred from campus when his prerequisites were ivy league status.

Him not being invited to this camp was meant to be an insult and a slight to the kid. He has a legit gripe. Everyone would handle it differently, some wouldnt say a word publicly and keep it moving, others would do the josh ho sang, and others would find the address of the decision makers and toilet paper their houses and make crank phone calls to hockey Canada for 718 straight days.

Whatever, who cares, he's upset and he should be (the non invite was intended to upset him). Doesn't make him a bad hockey player, and it doesn't make him a great one.

I hope he becomes a US citizen and shoves the puck down the Canadian goaltender's throat. That would be the ultimate revenge.
 

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i apologize for the bold type, but my eye sight is getting worse and worse every day. and it is doing so at an alarming pace.

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i apologize for the bold type, but my eye sight is getting worse and worse every day. and it is doing so at an alarming pace.

and i do find it very annoying when people offer their "opinion" and try to make it sound like "fact". and that is something i will never apologize for.

I'll allow it.

You may come to learn that the refusal to accept the UNSUPPORTED proffer of "opinion" as "fact" is one of BroadwayJay's calling cards.

But, it is one thing to cut a guy from camp; but to not even invite him? Suspect for sure.
 

BroadwayJay*

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i couldnt have said it better myself. thank you DM.
in one breath people say "hockey is more than just stats" and in their next breath, they say "look at his stats........"

go figure......

Those two statements aren't mutually exclusive. Hockey is more than the stats we have, but the stats are still extremely persuasive.
 

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i couldnt have said it better myself. thank you DM.
in one breath people say "hockey is more than just stats" and in their next breath, they say "look at his stats........"

go figure......
I like stats if they're pertinent. A scorer/sniper.....plus/minus for a defenseman.....or a second line center's plus/minus.

But it's what he does without the puck, relevant to his role.....that's a biggie {unless he's scoring thirty to forty goals, then there's leeway}.
 

A Pointed Stick

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I never heard or read anywhere that he didnt want to play for us.

Well, feel free to quote me, but Inform the Masses reported on it live and has greater depth and detail to back it up. Dipshi.. I mean Nino, literally stopped playing normally in games at the Bridge as an act of defiance. Not soon after his agent started demanding attention which culminated in a trade demand along with quite a few insults leveled at Snow. On the one hand many here including me where sympathetic to his situation, but he handled it like a brat. He even acted dumb about it. In the process he screwed over his team mates at the Bridge. HS and NN have zero in common man. One has passion, one has piss.
 

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Josh Not invited to Team Canada and rants - PASSION

Nino Subjected to the 4th line and sent to the minors and not invited for a call up with the club then wants a trade - Immature brat/ Primadona/ Cancer

LMAO lol keep ya honest Honest Islander fans! For the record I like the fact that Josh is ranting and I liked the fact that Nino felt snubbed. I want guys to show passion and anger. It makes them want it / prove it more

Problem with Nino is he basically gave up after the fact, we'll see how Ho Sang reacts this October. In general I don't think I hated Nino through his agent complaining that much, it was just the way he gave up after the fact that really bugged me.
 

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Well, feel free to quote me, but Inform the Masses reported on it live and has greater depth and detail to back it up. Dipshi.. I mean Nino, literally stopped playing normally in games at the Bridge as an act of defiance. Not soon after his agent started demanding attention which culminated in a trade demand along with quite a few insults leveled at Snow. On the one hand many here including me where sympathetic to his situation, but he handled it like a brat. He even acted dumb about it. In the process he screwed over his team mates at the Bridge. HS and NN have zero in common man. One has passion, one has piss.

One is still Islanders property the other is not. I wonder who will be celebrated around here and who will be bashed.

Ho Sang came out with a poor statement after the entire hockey world publicly says he has an attitude problem. I like the pick by Snow in that spot but Ho Sang needs to shut up and take some classes on how to respond with politically correct answers. The time for personality in todays game is limited and comes after NHL success not before it.
 

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One is still Islanders property the other is not. I wonder who will be celebrated around here and who will be bashed.

Ho Sang came out with a poor statement after the entire hockey world publicly says he has an attitude problem. I like the pick by Snow in that spot but Ho Sang needs to shut up and take some classes on how to respond with politically correct answers. The time for personality in todays game is limited and comes after NHL success not before it.

Why does anyone have to be politically correct. I applaud anyone who sticks up for themselves when they feel they've been wronged. And basically, if people stop asking the same question, they won't have to hear answers about that subject. Ho-Sang basically said he sick of being asked why he hasn't been invited. I'd be sick of it too.
 

charlie1

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Why does anyone have to be politically correct. I applaud anyone who sticks up for themselves when they feel they've been wronged. And basically, if people stop asking the same question, they won't have to hear answers about that subject. Ho-Sang basically said he sick of being asked why he hasn't been invited. I'd be sick of it too.

Agreed, and let's not forget these kids are just 18 years old. I don't even want to think about what I would say if I was interviewed at age 18. I think Ho-Sang is really well spoken and intelligent for his age. And refreshingly honest.
 

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Why does anyone have to be politically correct. I applaud anyone who sticks up for themselves when they feel they've been wronged. And basically, if people stop asking the same question, they won't have to hear answers about that subject. Ho-Sang basically said he sick of being asked why he hasn't been invited. I'd be sick of it too.

I don't like the politically correct culture of sports but that is what it is. Ho Sang should shut his mouth and try to become a solid NHL player. After becoming a solid NHLer he "earns" the right to break free from the boring canned JT like responses.
 

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I don't like the politically correct culture of sports but that is what it is. Ho Sang should shut his mouth and try to become a solid NHL player. After becoming a solid NHLer he "earns" the right to break free from the boring canned JT like responses.

I couldn't disagree any more. people are individuals, not robots. I'm glad we drafted Ho-Sang. Extremely talented and motivated to show the world they were wrong for not chosing him.
 

isles31

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Problem with Nino is he basically gave up after the fact, we'll see how Ho Sang reacts this October. In general I don't think I hated Nino through his agent complaining that much, it was just the way he gave up after the fact that really bugged me.

This is exactly how i viewed the situation as well. I think Ho Sang will play with a much bigger chip on his shoulder as opposed to rolling over and acting like a brat.

I can see why people would make the comparison, however, because the optics are kind of similar.
 

Levi Walking Bear

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I couldn't disagree any more. people are individuals, not robots. I'm glad we drafted Ho-Sang. Extremely talented and motivated to show the world they were wrong for not chosing him.

We probably mentioned this so many times before the draft, take MDC who was pretty much 5th on everyone's draft lists or maybe go for the home run pick in Ehlers or Nylander. The time to gamble on JHS was right especially after getting MDC, we needed someone with his dynamic speed and skills to go along with all other young forwards in the group. He may talk but haven't seen anything that he does other bad things (not that I know because I don't know him) so only care about what he does on the ice.
 
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seabass45

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Justin Bourne went to a Biosteel player showcase and Josh was there.

Maybe it was because of his recent comments, but what stuck out to me about his game was how he wanted to demonstrate the things he could do with the puck every time he touched it. Easy passes were glossed over to thread the needles, open players were dusted off so he could pull it through his feet, and he held the thing for what seemed like ages. It’s summer, but pretty much everyone at that camp can do those same things, they just don’t feel the need to pointlessly do tricks.

The skill, oh boy, it’s there in spades. But for me, it’s something worth watching in the future.​

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/560481
 

charlie1

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Justin Bourne went to a Biosteel player showcase and Josh was there.

Maybe it was because of his recent comments, but what stuck out to me about his game was how he wanted to demonstrate the things he could do with the puck every time he touched it. Easy passes were glossed over to thread the needles, open players were dusted off so he could pull it through his feet, and he held the thing for what seemed like ages. It’s summer, but pretty much everyone at that camp can do those same things, they just don’t feel the need to pointlessly do tricks.

The skill, oh boy, it’s there in spades. But for me, it’s something worth watching in the future.​

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/560481

Bourne seems to enjoy trashing Ho-Sang:

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/558487
 

islesfan3913

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Justin Bourne went to a Biosteel player showcase and Josh was there.

Maybe it was because of his recent comments, but what stuck out to me about his game was how he wanted to demonstrate the things he could do with the puck every time he touched it. Easy passes were glossed over to thread the needles, open players were dusted off so he could pull it through his feet, and he held the thing for what seemed like ages. It’s summer, but pretty much everyone at that camp can do those same things, they just don’t feel the need to pointlessly do tricks.

The skill, oh boy, it’s there in spades. But for me, it’s something worth watching in the future.​

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/560481

Everyone has high end stick handling skills? News to me....
 
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