Value of: Josh Anderson

[Guffman]

Not interested in moving him. So his value with/without retention is immaterial.

When did you become the Habs GM to dictate that the franchise is not interested in moving him? Heck, we could have saved ourselves 25 pages of misery if you would have just told Elliotte Friedman that.

PS: Congrats on the promotion

TBH, I still kind of hope the Habs do move him. I just completely disagree with Guffman on his value.

I think Josh Anderson is not only worth his contract, but if moved will bring back a good package (somewhere in the range of 1st+ B prospect) with no or very little retention.

At this point of the thread, all the arguments have been made, and we're in the bickering part of the thread. I'll eat my crow if he's moved for a sub-par return.

I have asked several times today to provide me with the name of a contending team that you think would be interested in trading for Anderson at his full contract value and giving up a first and good prospect.

Are you too going to go silent on this simple question?

 

[Huffer]

I don't think the Habs have trouble with his cap hit, but I think it's an issue for other teams, especially contending teams who might not have a lot of space.

I'd have no issue with the player on the Jets, just don't have a ton of interest in spending a lot to acquire him at 5.5. And the Habs don't really have a big need to trade him ATM.

The Jets picked up NN for a 2nd and while he only has 1.5 years to JA's 4.5, they have comparable production and NN's cap is 4.

 

[Qwijibo]

When did you become the Habs GM to dictate that the franchise is not interested in moving him? Heck, we could have saved ourselves 25 pages of misery if you would have just told Elliotte Friedman that.

PS: Congrats on the promotion


I have asked several times today to provide me with the name of a contending team that you think would be interested in trading for Anderson at his full contract value and giving up a first and good prospect.

Are you too going to go silent on this simple question?

It literally took me 2 minutes to find a direct quote from Hughes regarding Anderson. Maybe take less time being condescending and more time actually reading.

From last season but I doubt the sentiment has changed much considering Anderson has been better this year than last.

“I think we have to listen. We’re in 32nd place. We have to listen to all options to improve the teams,” said Hughes on whether or not he’d entertain calls on Josh Anderson. “We had many teams call on Josh, up until the TDL, and some have called recently too. That should tell you how much we like Josh.”

Translation, they aren’t shopping him. They like him. They’d only move him if they get an offer they’re blown away with.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

27 points in 64 games. Gee, how much do you want for him rofl?

Do you know the difference between goals and assists???????????????

 

[japhi]

I'm not sure why you responded to me in this way. I agree with everything you said.

My bad, realized that after.

 

[TS Quint]

This thread in a nutshell. -

Habs fans. We’re happy with Anderson and what he brings to the team. Also fine with his contract.

Other fans. He sucks and you should retain 50% of his contract to dump him. (Despite the fact that actual hockey insiders have pegged his value as quite high and Montreal has shown no interest in moving him)

I missed the posters who were wanting Anderson on their team.

I see a thread made by a Habs fan who thinks a sub $1M player is the same as a 5.5m player and was hoping that everyone would lose their mind for a guy who broke 40 points once.

I see Values set by Habs fans that every other fans base finds ludicrous.

I see every time Anderson is brought up in any thread to be traded it’s a Habs fan doing it.

I see a poster who sees any disagreement in his sky high value of Anderson as flaming.

Yes, please keep him. Im pretty sure I speak for every other fan base when I say please stop trying to dump him on other teams. There is no interest.

 

[QCNords]

Monahan???…expiring contract july 1st…..no one will give Monahan a new deal….always hurt….even hurt himself in rehab!

A one year deal at low cost could be a win/win for both parties.

I highly doubt the Canadiens will try to trade Christian Dvorak this summer.

Why would they do that?

Evans can do the same job centering the 3rd line, cheaper too.

 

[TS Quint]

It literally took me 2 minutes to find a direct quote from Hughes regarding Anderson. Maybe take less time being condescending and more time actually reading.

From last season but I doubt the sentiment has changed much considering Anderson has been better this year than last.

“I think we have to listen. We’re in 32nd place. We have to listen to all options to improve the teams,” said Hughes on whether or not he’d entertain calls on Josh Anderson. “We had many teams call on Josh, up until the TDL, and some have called recently too. That should tell you how much we like Josh.”

Translation, they aren’t shopping him. They like him. They’d only move him if they get an offer they’re blown away with.

It’s kinda weird though. The rumors start from LeBrun who hears out of Montreal that “teams are asking about Anderson”. Then Montreal reporters go back to Hughes who was presumably the source to LeBrun to get this quote. It’s like a snake eating its own tail.

 

[Guffman]

It literally took me 2 minutes to find a direct quote from Hughes regarding Anderson. Maybe take less time being condescending and more time actually reading.

From last season but I doubt the sentiment has changed much considering Anderson has been better this year than last.

“I think we have to listen. We’re in 32nd place. We have to listen to all options to improve the teams,” said Hughes on whether or not he’d entertain calls on Josh Anderson. “We had many teams call on Josh, up until the TDL, and some have called recently too. That should tell you how much we like Josh.”

Translation, they aren’t shopping him. They like him. They’d only move him if they get an offer they’re blown away with.

That doesn’t mean much. They could be calling to see if the Habs were interested in trading him and if so, how much of the contract they would eat.

Yet again, another poster unable to come up with a single contending team that would trade for Anderson at his full contract.

 

[Qwijibo]

Well. I’m following suit and putting that guy on ignore.

 

[FerrisRox]

Evans can do the same job centering the 3rd line, cheaper too.

We can agree to disagree there. Making Jake Evans a top 9 forward is definitely a step in the wrong direction for the Montreal Canadiens.

 

[Guffman]

Well. I’m following suit and putting that guy on ignore.

Seems like a good tactic when you guys can't answer this question while vaguely saying a lot of teams are interested in him.

Yet again, another poster unable to come up with a single contending team that would trade for Anderson at his full contract.

Guffman wins another debate. Next?

 

[QCNords]

We can agree to disagree there. Making Jake Evans a top 9 forward is definitely a step in the wrong direction for the Montreal Canadiens.

My argument was based on the fact that even with Monahan and Dach injured, MSL put Drouin 2c and kept Dvo 3c.
Dont see the fit for MTL with the new admin.

 

[pth2]

My argument was based on the fact that even with Monahan and Dach injured, MSL put Drouin 2c and kept Dvo 3c.
Dont see the fit for MTL with the new admin.

Keep in mind though, when Dach got hurt, the season was already tanked. Drouin could've had trade value, and if not, is worth playing more to see if he's to be kept on.

As to Evans, his injury record would make me cautious about giving him a "strategic" role like 3C, where you need some measure of consistency, which you can't do if you miss large chunks of most seasons.

 

[Guffman]

Drouin could've had trade value, and if not, is worth playing more to see if he's to be kept on.

He has 1 goal in 45 games.

What a train wreck. Of course, I don't regularly watch Hab games so maybe he has important leadership abilities for the young pups.

 

[japhi]

We have no idea what teams are/were willing to pay for him, pretending that posters here have some inside knowledge is silly., Habs fan said this or that, who cares.

We can only go on what we know, which is; GM's love this type of player, he is incredibly valuable to MTL - he's playing close to 20 mins a night - , Habs have an abundance of picks and prospects, the league is in a crazy cap crunch.

Based on that, logic says that a deal would be very hard to make. Which is basically what Hughes has said, that it would take a ridiculous package to move him. Which makes sense, why would you retain on a core piece of your team for more picks, only to have to replace the player at a similar cost? And you wake up in 3 years ready to compete, you need a guy like Anderson but can't add him because you have no cap and he is running through your guys as a member of the Bruins or Lightning? Would be a disaster, The math doesn't work.

 

[FerrisRox]

My argument was based on the fact that even with Monahan and Dach injured, MSL put Drouin 2c and kept Dvo 3c.
Dont see the fit for MTL with the new admin.

I think that personnel decision had everything to do with trying to showcase Jonathan Drouin for a possible trade and absolutely nothing to do with Christian Dvorak.

 

[Xirik]

its been stated earlier in the thread but the Most Value Anderson will have will be when he has one and perhaps two years on his contract and the Habs are willing to use a retention slot on him. Anderson might get better/worse/terribly injured from now till then which would also affect value.

If the Cap increases by a significant amount that might also change things.

 

[_vivelequebec_]

Simple question for those thinking he’s overpaid.

He scores 4 more goals and adds 3 assists this season, then he gets 27g 15a next year. He’s UFA for summer 2024, just turned 30, and asks for a 3 years term with a 5 teams NTC. Cap is now at 87 millions.

What his AAV will be?

 

[pth2]

Simple question for those thinking he’s overpaid.

He scores 4 more goals and adds 3 assists this season, then he gets 27g 15a next year. He’s UFA for summer 2024, just turned 30, and asks for a 3 years term with a 5 teams NTC. Cap is now at 87 millions.

What his AAV will be?

As a fellow Habs fans, while I see your point, this is also the most favorable projection.

I think your point would be stronger if you just stuck to the current facts: 21+ goals, 29 year old UFA looking for a 4 year deal would give a reasonable idea of what he'd get as a UFA now, and avoid (some) criticism.

 

[HabsAddict]

HF posters have traded Anderson more often then the old standby, Kerfoot.

Yet he's still a Hab....

And Kerfoot still a Leaf...

 

[_vivelequebec_]

As a fellow Habs fans, while I see your point, this is also the most favorable projection.

I think your point would be stronger if you just stuck to the current facts: 21+ goals, 29 year old UFA looking for a 4 year deal would give a reasonable idea of what he'd get as a UFA now, and avoid (some) criticism.

At the moment, he has no more value than a 3rd round pick (maybe a 2nd). And he couldn’t even get traded now.

It’s optimistic. Or not. He already had 27 goals in a season (and more assists than what I projected). It would also prove that his shoulder injury is no more concern.

Anyway, if that scenario happens, I hope we keep him.

 

[Tiredswede]

He has those goals this year much because off all the players that are done for the year in mtl. He is getting plenty ice time he would not get if mtl was healthy. and on a better team he would play even further down the lineup

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Man this thread is something , 25 pages and most of the proposals are people bashing at eachother saying he sucks and have no argument from both sides.

Is it so complicated to stay on track and explain ur demands on why or refusals instead of writting 400 world essays why X user or Y user are bashing orgs or people trying to have a normal conversation.

 

[Hins77]

There is many forward less paid than Anderson that I wouldnt touch one on one versus him. Next year, we won’t be in cap trouble and I don’t see the hurry to trade him. He is bringing physical presence esch time he is on the ice, and able to score over 20 goals. I appreciate what Anderson is bringing even if he may be a bit overpaid.