Value of: Josh Anderson

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HuGo Sham

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and that is why he's most likely not getting traded. It's nice that non-hab fans want to do Hughes a favour and acquire him on the cheap or with retention, but he's part of the team going forward. He's thriving under MSL, playing in all situations and at 20 goals, will finish with between 25-30. Very few wingers bring his blend of size and speed and can fight.
If GMs are thinking like most of you are, then these's 0 reason to trade him. Habs have plenty of cap room and his value is greater to the Ch.
 
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NewEraGM

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Don’t get cocky. Habs fans were very wrong on the trade value of:

Petry
Domi
Tatar
Drouin
Dvorak
Price
Gallagher
Monahan

And you clearly didn’t accomplish anything at the deadline this year. Habs fans have won some (Chiarot, Toffoli, Kulak) and lost some of trade value arguments.

I’m not sure how the league values Anderson. I do know I don’t think he’d require retention to trade. I don’t think his contract is negative value. I think there is a chance the Habs can move him in the off-season without taking back a bad contract or retaining.

Would a playoff team give up a 2024 1st for him? I could envision that. He’s an underrated and misunderstood player at HF from my point of view.

Y’all like that goal Byram put on Guhle and Allen last night. :)

With hindsight, Avs 100% do the Lex for Barron+ trade again. You guys traded Sakic a good and in his prime second line winger and PK stud in that swap. He may not have fit your timeline but the Habs clearly misunderstood this player.
What are you even saying about all those players trade values?!
Petry: I didn’t even include this one but most said we wouldn’t get anything for him and yet we got a 50point pace younger defensemen….
Tatar: he left as a UFA
most of those players was the previous regime
Monahan wasn’t traded because he was injured. We knew he wasn’t getting traded genius
I don’t even know what you are referring to about Gallagher . Habs fans know he’s untradeable.

Like you’re actually just completely factually incorrect or simply irrelevant in some of your points. If you answer with another post like this I won’t even answer because it’s just so outrageous.
 

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Yeah GMs go nuts for Anderson type players but he's got some pretty major flaws. Tunnel vision, doesn't use linemates well at all, doesn't bring much defensively, his "fighting" doesnt scare anyone if you look at his fights vs Wilson and other heavyweights. He gets injured fighting as well. He's like a less skilled faster straight line Evander Kane without the off ice/personality baggage. Wilson on top of being a power forward and good candidate for the best non Nic Deslauriers/Ryan Reaves (if he's still got it at his age) fighter in the league is an excellent PKer/defensive winger, PP player, board battle player and compliment to skilled players whereas Anderson is a straight line skater/shooter you put on your third line with a Lars Eller type C and let him rush the net and do as he pleases.
 
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LVCarson

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No one is taking a boat anchor like Anderson. Even Montreal media say he is overpaid and will be hard to dump just like Gallagher.
 

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No one is taking a boat anchor like Anderson. Even Montreal media say he is overpaid and will be hard to dump just like Gallagher.
Please find a source for this claim, that Anderson will be hard to dump, including that Gallagher comparison.

If you don't have a source, please stop baseless claims/outright lying.

Yeah GMs go nuts for Anderson type players but he's got some pretty major flaws. Tunnel vision, doesn't use linemates well at all, doesn't bring much defensively, his "fighting" doesnt scare anyone if you look at his fights vs Wilson and other heavyweights. He gets injured fighting as well. He's like a less skilled faster straight line Evander Kane without the off ice/personality baggage. Wilson on top of being a power forward and good candidate for the best non Nic Deslauriers/Ryan Reaves (if he's still got it at his age) fighter in the league is an excellent PKer/defensive winger, PP player, board battle player and compliment to skilled players whereas Anderson is a straight line skater/shooter you put on your third line with a Lars Eller type C and let him rush the net and do as he pleases.
I've often described Anderson as a B verion of Evander Kane or Tom Wilson, so I can't argue that. That profile is still a very rare, though, so there's a reason he'd be in demand, and that the Habs can simply wait for "pry away" value, if it ever comes. And if it doesn't, we're good with that, too.
 
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Please find a source for this claim, that Anderson will be hard to dump, including that Gallagher comparison.

If you don't have a source, please stop baseless claims/outright lying.
Hockey writers “3 reasons Canadiens need to trade Josh Anderson”. Google it.
 

pth2

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Hockey writers “3 reasons Canadiens need to trade Josh Anderson”. Google it.
You mean, the article that references his "sky-high trade value", and doesn't in any way mention his contract will be hard to dump ? And makes no comparison to Gallagher ?


You lied, and lied again to cover it up. That's just arguing in bad faith.
 

LVCarson

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You mean, the article that references his "sky-high trade value", and doesn't in any way mention his contract will be hard to dump ? And makes no comparison to Gallagher ?


You lied, and lied again to cover it up. That's just arguing in bad faith.
Oh you mean the article that says Anderson has sky high value and quotes Eric Engels as the source of this information?

Go read that articles. That clown Engels compares Anderson to Nino Niederreiter when he was traded FROM MINNESOTA TO WINNIPEG…so that is why Anderson is so valuable. Engels is a hockey writer and he can’t even figure out that Nino played for Nashville. I can tell he is a Habs best writer, facts don’t seem to matter in Montreal.

Sorry to hurt your feelings, I accept your apology. Be more careful next time.

Weird, in that article they mention how valuable Josh is. Hilarious!!!
Hey someone else that doesn’t read the articles. That is hilarious.
 

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Oh you mean the article that says Anderson has sky high value and quotes Eric Engels as the source of this information?

Go read that articles. That clown Engels compares Anderson to Nino Niederreiter when he was traded FROM MINNESOTA TO WINNIPEG…so that is why Anderson is so valuable. Engels is a hockey writer and he can’t even figure out that Nino played for Nashville. I can tell he is a Habs best writer, facts don’t seem to matter in Montreal.

Sorry to hurt your feelings, I accept your apology. Be more careful next time.


Hey someone else that doesn’t read the articles. That is hilarious.
Nope, you failed miserably. Hilarious!!! 😂
 

LVCarson

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Nope, you failed miserably. Hilarious!!! 😂
Is that the best you can do and your go to line when you are wrong? I take it you just ignore the facts like Engel. I guess he sets the standard for his FOLLOWERS. Try to stay away from cults…or skip right to the koolaid. Your choice.
 

LVCarson

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I put him on ignore. I have no time to waste with bad faith discussion.
Can’t face the facts so you put your head in the sand and ignore the facts? You asked for a link. I gave it to you. You said the article stated Anderson is valuable…which I pointed out that those facts that were made up by a Montreal beat writer who writes about hockey for a living, but he doesn’t know who nierreiater played for? Then you can’t face facts so I am ignored. I am betting you watch Fox News for all your life decisions. Save some time and just go for the koolaid.
 

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Is that the best you can do and your go to line when you are wrong? I take it you just ignore the facts like Engel. I guess he sets the standard for his FOLLOWERS. Try to stay away from cults…or skip right to the koolaid. Your choice.
You are doubling down on failure! Hilarious!!!
 

LVCarson

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You are doubling down on failure! Hilarious!!!
So tell me your point. Even your leader knows it’s time to dump Anderson and outlines it. He is a bottom 6 guy making 5x5.5m for the next 4 years. Cap is important, no one is taking him off your hands. He is a year from being the next Gallagher. Sorry you can face the truth.
 

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So tell me your point. Even your leader knows it’s time to dump Anderson and outlines it. He is a bottom 6 guy making 5x5.5m for the next 4 years. Cap is important, no one is taking him off your hands. He is a year from being the next Gallagher. Sorry you can face the truth.
So you admit you were wrong! I forgive you. Hilarious though!
 

pth2

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So you admit you were wrong! I forgive you. Hilarious though!
I can't see what lies he's coming up with, but don't waste your breath. He made a claim, supplied a link that didn't say anything like what he was saying, it's clearly not worth trying to have an adult discussion with him.
 

LVCarson

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I can't see what lies he's coming up with, but don't waste your breath. He made a claim, supplied a link that didn't say anything like what he was saying, it's clearly not worth trying to have an adult discussion with him.
Hey I thought you were hiding in the bathroom crying. Make up your mind. I like how you can’t deal with the truth but you try to pipe in and tell the other puppies on how to follow. Do you all share the bathroom stall when you go to games?
 

LVCarson

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So you admit you were wrong! I forgive you. Hilarious though!
I don’t know if you don’t read English so I will give you the benefit of the doubt, but repeating the word hilarious doesn’t do a lot for your argument. Overpaid player, on the downswing, couldn’t get traded at the deadline. All the things said in the articles written by your own beat writer. I hope you can get to sleep tonight, you seem upset by the facts.
 

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Don’t get cocky. Habs fans were very wrong on the trade value of:

Petry
Domi
Tatar
Drouin
Dvorak
Price
Gallagher
Monahan

And you clearly didn’t accomplish anything at the deadline this year. Habs fans have won some (Chiarot, Toffoli, Kulak) and lost some of trade value arguments.

I’m not sure how the league values Anderson. I do know I don’t think he’d require retention to trade. I don’t think his contract is negative value. I think there is a chance the Habs can move him in the off-season without taking back a bad contract or retaining.

Would a playoff team give up a 2024 1st for him? I could envision that. He’s an underrated and misunderstood player at HF from my point of view.

Y’all like that goal Byram put on Guhle and Allen last night. :)

With hindsight, Avs 100% do the Lex for Barron+ trade again. You guys traded Sakic a good and in his prime second line winger and PK stud in that swap. He may not have fit your timeline but the Habs clearly misunderstood this player.

Huh?

Petry-Matheson has been fantastic for Montreal
Domi-I guess, it depends on how you value of the player who is the topic of this thread
Tatar, Drouin, Dvorak, Price, Gallagher-What exactly are you talking about? Montreal never traded any of them. And when exactly are you talking about? Montreal's only ever seriously shopped Drouin and Dvorak.
Monahan-He was too injured to be traded or have value - you can follow insiders deadline commentary throughout the season. Fans only seriously started talking about him having value when he was playing and playing well and most qualified it with him being healthy.

And Montreal didn't misunderstand Lehkonen, they played him on the top line during their Cup finals run. Just because Avs fans thought he was worth a 3rd, does not mean he was some unknown player. Nor to NHL GMs not understand that player situations affect performance. If Lehkonen was still in Montreal, he'd be producing the way he always had, because Montreal doesn't have a MacKinnon to play with him. Montreal was going into the 2022 offseason with almost 90 million in committed salary, they knew they were going to have to cut somewhere, and they were able to get what they were looking for in a Lehkonen trade.
 
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