Value of: Josh Anderson

[Habs Halifax]

trams were not giving up a 1st for him. He makes too much for his role.

Lebrun quote... "I can confirm a team offered a 1st and the Habs declined". Fight that report or try to brush it under the rug all you wish.

He's got value and we are not shopping him. Laugh all you want but if we trade him, it's going to be more than a late 1st rounder dart that may or may not make the NHL.

 

[Djp]

Lebrun quote... "I can confirm a team offered a 1st and the Habs declined". Fight that report or try to brush it under the rug all you wish.

He's got value and we are not shopping him. Laugh all you want but if we trade him, it's going to be more than a late 1st rounder dart that may or may not make the NHL.

There likely was retention required in that deal bring him down to around $3M per Or a ton of salary was coming back.

who had $5M in space beyonD THIS SEASON.?

 

[Habs Halifax]

There likely was retention required in that deal bring him down to around $3M per Or a ton of salary was coming back.

You don't know that so your "likely" narrative is a guess. All I will say is it's hard to move a contract so yeah, a cap contract would likely be at play. Retention? It's possible the 1st was offered but with some retention asked for as well.

However, the salary cap part is not rocket science. Using that part to diminish the 1st being offered is flaming or devalue narratives. . Any trade today needs salary cap space management from both GM's.

 

[RANDOMH3RO]

I’m dying to see what Anderson does eventually get moved for. The report of them turning down a first for him seems insane to me at this point. Why would a team who is shooting to finish low in the standings want to hold onto a middle 6 winger that makes too much money if they were offered a first for him? Clearly there must have been more involved that didn’t favour the habs side enough to give up a serviceable player. I’m extremely curious to see how it plays out, because so many are sure he’s worth a lot. He’s 29 in 2 months, does his value really raise much when he’s closer to the end of the contract? I don’t see any time that he gets moved without retention.

 

[Guffman]

the fact that several GMs were dumbfounded may be true but it only takes one to believe it’s a fair offer.
Again, you may not agree that some players are worth the return they bring, but it only takes one GM to believe differently and that’s their value. Not what the other 30 GMs think

As the TB GM said, they are in win now mode with this core. Picking up a Jeannot type of player that can actually fit in their salary cap was something that TB found to be valuable and gave up that treasure trove.

What does that have to do with Anderson? Sweet FA. He’s not a player you can easily stuff on a salary cap challenged team (which most contenders are) especially with that term.

So, what Anderson’s market value? I guess we’ll see if he ever does get traded but those bringing up Jeannot‘s trade compensation are being ignorant because that’s not a comparable at all given the massive contract differences.

 

[Ovi895]

What would Tom Wilson's value be? Basically same contract, similar stats, both are big, hit , and fight. Anderson is a better leader, faster, and more disaplined though.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I’m dying to see what Anderson does eventually get moved for. The report of them turning down a first for him seems insane to me at this point. Why would a team who is shooting to finish low in the standings want to hold onto a middle 6 winger that makes too much money if they were offered a first for him? Clearly there must have been more involved that didn’t favour the habs side enough to give up a serviceable player. I’m extremely curious to see how it plays out, because so many are sure he’s worth a lot. He’s 29 in 2 months, does his value really raise much when he’s closer to the end of the contract? I don’t see any time that he gets moved without retention.

You won't die cause it's very likely Anderson is not traded. Don't be fooled. Fans and Media are obsessive with this but Gorton/Hughes are not shopping him.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

You won't die cause it's very likely Anderson is not traded. Don't be fooled. Fans and Media are obsessive with this but Gorton/Hughes are not shopping him.

I agree. Josh Anderson is the ideal player for the Habs. Power forward who can protect the kids and provide experience to an inexperienced lineup. I don't see the Habs trading him. He's good for the rebuild.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I agree. Josh Anderson is the ideal player for the Habs. Power forward who can protect the kids and provide experience to an inexperienced lineup. I don't see the Habs trading him. He's good for the rebuild.

I'm tired of some fans shopping him and even the media. He's not being shopped and we are happy to have him in our line-up. Maybe we look at a trade when he has 2 years or less left. If traded before that, an aggressive GM offers us our pry away value. I don't see it happening in the short term.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Josh Anderson scores his 20th goal! On pace for 25! Let's go Power Donkey!

 

[Forge]

No matter how you feel about Anderson, Power Donkey is an elite level nickname.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Very good player if he can continue to stay healthy

 

[TBF1972]

You have no idea what was offered. I am sure 1st's were offered.

you have won this argument. the reasoning is just brilliant.

 

[TBF1972]

the fact that several GMs were dumbfounded may be true but it only takes one to believe it’s a fair offer.

He aint moving unless we get the perceived league value for him. (not his HFboard value )

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Very good player if he can continue to stay healthy

He was great last night, should of had 3 goals.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Very good player if he can continue to stay healthy

I know Lehkonen and Anderson are two different types of players but what I will say is both players had production affected from being bounced all over the line-up with the Habs.

Anderson in a deeper top 9 with consistent centers would show more than what you see today. And Anderson has been very good over the last month or so. The biggest knock on him is consistencey and from what I noticed, he gets uninspired when placed on the 3rd line with a meh center like Dvorak. Can you blame him?

Habs fans are shopping him cause they want a gold mind in return for futures. I say it's too early to try that when the cap is still flat. I don't see Anderson declining in his prime... not with that skating.

He was great last night, should of had 3 goals.

I lost count on how many break aways he had over the last few games. How many goal posts he hit too.

 

[McJedi]

Can’t wait until Montreal fans can once again stick it to other teams fans about being right about their players value.
Other fans will deny, but Montreal fans were right about :
1) Chiarot getting a 1st
2) Toffoli getting a 1st +
3) Kulak getting a 2nd
4) Lehkonen getting the equivalent of a 1st

We were bang on for all 4 whereas other fans said no chance. Time will tell on Anderson.

Don’t get cocky. Habs fans were very wrong on the trade value of:

Petry
Domi
Tatar
Drouin
Dvorak
Price
Gallagher
Monahan

And you clearly didn’t accomplish anything at the deadline this year. Habs fans have won some (Chiarot, Toffoli, Kulak) and lost some of trade value arguments.

I’m not sure how the league values Anderson. I do know I don’t think he’d require retention to trade. I don’t think his contract is negative value. I think there is a chance the Habs can move him in the off-season without taking back a bad contract or retaining.

Would a playoff team give up a 2024 1st for him? I could envision that. He’s an underrated and misunderstood player at HF from my point of view.

Y’all like that goal Byram put on Guhle and Allen last night.

With hindsight, Avs 100% do the Lex for Barron+ trade again. You guys traded Sakic a good and in his prime second line winger and PK stud in that swap. He may not have fit your timeline but the Habs clearly misunderstood this player.

 

[CDN24]

Don’t get cocky. Habs fans were very wrong on the trade value of:

Petry
Domi
Tatar
Drouin
Dvorak
Price
Gallagher
Monahan

And you clearly didn’t accomplish anything at the deadline this year. Habs fans have won some (Chiarot, Toffoli, Kulak) and lost some of trade value arguments.

I’m not sure how the league values Anderson. I do know I don’t think he’d require retention to trade. I don’t think his contract is negative value. I think there is a chance the Habs can move him in the off-season without taking back a bad contract or retaining.

Would a playoff team give up a 2024 1st for him? I could envision that. He’s an underrated and misunderstood player at HF from my point of view.

Y’all like that goal Byram put on Guhle and Allen last night.

With hindsight, Avs 100% do the Lex for Barron+ trade again. You guys traded Sakic a good and in his prime second line winger and PK stud in that swap. He may not have fit your timeline but the Habs clearly misunderstood this player.

How were Habs fans wrong on trade value of

Petry (they got a d-man who is 6 yrs younger and producing at 82G pace of 15G 35A 50pts)
Domi They got Anderson who's value based on this thread lies between a Cap dump and the greatest player ever
Tatar- they never traded him kept him for their finals run- but Det got a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for him back in the day
Drouin Hard pressed to find any Habs fan who said he would return anything significant
Dvorak I don't think they tried to move him
Price Hard to trade injured players
Gallagher see above- that contract is brutal though - no value there
Monahan hard to trade injured players

 

[Habs Halifax]

Don’t get cocky. Habs fans were very wrong on the trade value of:

Petry
Domi
Tatar
Drouin
Dvorak
Price
Gallagher
Monahan

And you clearly didn’t accomplish anything at the deadline this year. Habs fans have won some (Chiarot, Toffoli, Kulak) and lost some of trade value arguments.

I’m not sure how the league values Anderson. I do know I don’t think he’d require retention to trade. I don’t think his contract is negative value. I think there is a chance the Habs can move him in the off-season without taking back a bad contract or retaining.

Would a playoff team give up a 2024 1st for him? I could envision that. He’s an underrated and misunderstood player at HF from my point of view.

Y’all like that goal Byram put on Guhle and Allen last night.

With hindsight, Avs 100% do the Lex for Barron+ trade again. You guys traded Sakic a good and in his prime second line winger and PK stud in that swap. He may not have fit your timeline but the Habs clearly misunderstood this player.

Blah blah blah. Several of those players needs to be talked about with context of what was actually said and without health issues. Not worth talking about cause it will be a derail about stupid stuff. Even in the Monahan situation, I know I said it's a question about health, not ability, so was I wrong? I said he needed to return to play games and he didn't. You staple that in your head as us being wrong? That's a spin cause you didn't comprehend what was said well. I'm sure we can apply that to others in your list as well. You're narrative is constantly in the belittle area and we already know, you hate the Habs.

And can you stop grouping all Habs fans into one opinion? That is complete nonsense cause our fan base is not that united. I think you have our fan based miss read by a wide margin

Anderson is not a perfect top 6F but he's not a type that is easy to find either. I really dislike this dwell on low points and pump on high point with fans on HF boards. Seems like something children do. A lot of you have a hard time seeing the forest for the trees.

 

[jfhabs]

Don’t get cocky. Habs fans were very wrong on the trade value of:

Petry
Domi
Tatar
Drouin
Dvorak
Price
Gallagher
Monahan

And you clearly didn’t accomplish anything at the deadline this year. Habs fans have won some (Chiarot, Toffoli, Kulak) and lost some of trade value arguments.

I’m not sure how the league values Anderson. I do know I don’t think he’d require retention to trade. I don’t think his contract is negative value. I think there is a chance the Habs can move him in the off-season without taking back a bad contract or retaining.

Would a playoff team give up a 2024 1st for him? I could envision that. He’s an underrated and misunderstood player at HF from my point of view.

Y’all like that goal Byram put on Guhle and Allen last night.

With hindsight, Avs 100% do the Lex for Barron+ trade again. You guys traded Sakic a good and in his prime second line winger and PK stud in that swap. He may not have fit your timeline but the Habs clearly misunderstood this player.

Only 2 of the player you listed were traded, Domi and Petry. It's hard to gauge the value because both were hockey trades. Most fans are happy with both return. Domi wasn't as good as Habs fans were saying after his career year (pretty good this year tho), but Petry seems to be working for the Pens.

We can't prove or disprove the value of any of the other players listed.

Anderson is clearly easier to move in the summer. I personnally wouldn't trade him unless it's a deal I can't refuse and I think the management as the same stance. That would be either a very good prospect or semi high pick. Rebuilding teams need good vets, otherwise you end up in an infinite loop with young players thinking they're the shit, see Oilers, Sabres, etc.

It was a nice goal, hopefully Byram can stay healthy and play more then 30 games!

I'm not Barron's biggest fan, but I think he could turn into a Petry if everything turns out well for him. A guy that looks like a number 1 D some nights and uninterested and soft other nights.

Lehkonen wouldn't be producing the same numbers on our team. He'd be a 15-15 type of guy.

 

[McJedi]

How were Habs fans wrong on trade value of

Petry (they got a d-man who is 6 yrs younger and producing at 82G pace of 15G 35A 50pts)
Domi They got Anderson who's value based on this thread lies between a Cap dump and the greatest player ever
Tatar- they never traded him kept him for their finals run- but Det got a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for him back in the day
Drouin Hard pressed to find any Habs fan who said he would return anything significant
Dvorak I don't think they tried to move him
Price Hard to trade injured players
Gallagher see above- that contract is brutal though - no value there
Monahan hard to trade injured players

You didn’t trade any of those players for the haul of picks or prospects proposed by many Habs fans. You took on a bad contract with Matheson. And a poorly motivated one in Anderson. Good hockey trades in highlight. But many of y’all were saying Domi was worth a high 1st. Or Petry worth high picks.

You didn’t trade many of those players above because they were never worth what so many OPs presented their value to be.

 

[pth2]

Lehkonen wouldn't be producing the same numbers on our team. He'd be a 15-15 type of guy.

Regardless of how Lehkonen performs in Colorado, in Montreal he had long spurts where he was the guy who couldn't score in a woman's prison with a fistful of pardons. I mean, what's the record, 20+ games without a goal ? 35 games with something like 2?

Playing with top notch, high-end talent is a skill, and he seems to have it, but for a team with no such talent in its prime, it's a bit of a wasted skill, so we might as well have moved him.

 

[FerrisRox]

Habs GM turned down a 1st for him?

Suuuuuuuure.

It's funny seeing his speed and hitting get described as elite, when in reality, he has actually lost a step over the last two seasons, nor does he play a physical game; he's actually pretty timid. If he gets hit, then MAYBE he might start throwing some weight around.

This is just an absolutely clueless take. Josh Anderson's speed has not changed, at all, in the last two seasons. That is just straight up nonsense, a complete and total fabrication.

This thread is filled with people that watch Anderson play every single game, what on earth would possess you to make up a lie about him and present here where you would obviously be outed as making shit up?

What's the point?

 

[26Mats]

He was great last night, should of had 3 goals.

I think he's that type that will score once every 3 good chances - but that's ok, because when playing with RHP, most nights he gets 3 good chances. And those chances are largely created by his speed and size. So it's not like he's wasting chances that any other player would be getting.

I want to see him play a whole year with RHP next year. I wanted to move him, to better tank and rebuild. But now I want to see if he can get between 27 and 30 goals playing a full year with RHP.

 

[FerrisRox]

The report of them turning down a first for him seems insane to me at this point. Why would a team who is shooting to finish low in the standings want to hold onto a middle 6 winger that makes too much money if they were offered a first for him?

Just a guess, though it seems like a pretty obvious one, the Canadiens turned it down because they don't think he makes too much money and they value what he brings to the team.

I have zero issue with his cap hit and feel like he's totally worth it. As a fan, I would be pretty annoyed if the Canadiens traded him away, but I would be furious if all they got was a mid-to-late 1st round pick.

I want Josh Anderson to remain on the Canadiens.