TheOrganist
Don't Call Him Alex
- Feb 21, 2006
- 4,037
- 1,408
I’ve read some mind-numbing idiotic analysis on this forum over the last 20 years…this might be the dumbest. Mazel tov.
Speculation: Jordan Binnington to Toronto?
- Thread starter LEAFANFORLIFE23
- Start date
- Status
You so funny! That "free win" must be why Kadri ran him in playoffs when Blues was on verge of stopping Avs Cup run. Naz shoulda won the Conn Smythe, because once he knocked out Binny, the Blues cratered and the Avs were able to cruise to a Cup. You can tell whatever story you want, but we all know that Binny made y'all his b!tch so you guys took him out.
rumrokh
THORBS
- Mar 10, 2006
- 10,117
- 3,296
Never mind that he's 9-13-1 with save percentage over .900 against them in the regular season in his career. Those numbers are both above average league-wide against the Avalanche in that span. Also with the deciding balance of those losses coming in the last year or so, when the Blues have been a much worse team. Surely that's because of Binnington, right?
Thallis
No half measures
God Blues fans have such a collective psychosis about this series it's ridiculous. Binnington stole 1 game (after losing the first) and that means the Blues were about to win a series they barely got to 6 games in.
HockeyFan100
Registered User
- Oct 7, 2012
- 4,466
- 3,423
T_Cage
VP of Awesome
- Sep 26, 2006
- 5,499
- 868
Having a .925 SV and only going 1-6 to show for it is insane. Did the Blues forget to play defense those games? Lol
Thallis
No half measures
Not so much forgot as much as literally could not.
rumrokh
THORBS
- Mar 10, 2006
- 10,117
- 3,296
This is better than the league as a whole in that span against the Avalanche.
Shane Diesel
Registered User
- Jun 8, 2021
- 2,197
- 2,900
rumrokh
THORBS
- Mar 10, 2006
- 10,117
- 3,296
stl76
No. 5 in your programs, No. 1 in your hearts
- Jul 2, 2015
- 9,167
- 8,536
stl76
No. 5 in your programs, No. 1 in your hearts
- Jul 2, 2015
- 9,167
- 8,536
Well, 4 of the losses came in a 1st round sweep during the weird covid season when the Blues limped into the playoffs as an 8 seed with a roster decimated by injuries including to their top 2 dmen. Parayko was dealing with a back injury and Kadri did his typical thing taking out opponents' players with this disgusting headshot on Faulk:
Soooo, yeah, was pretty hard for the Blues to play much defense after that with Parayko and Faulk both out. Binnington got shelled and completely hung out to dry that but actually played pretty well in the series despite his numbers not looking great. Wasn't much he or the rest of the Blues could do after that.
Binnington was completely locked in the following year against the avs until Kadri took him out. Who knows what happens if Kadri doesn't injure him, could have stolen the series and ended the avs dominant run to the cup...but more than likely the avs still go on to win. We'll never know for sure.
SherVaughn30
Registered User
How do you give a young goalie a chance when his health is too much an issue. Let him try to master being a 30 game backup first. If he accomplishes that, then in a couple years you try him as the #1 goalie.
This is similar to when Samsonov was anointed being the Caps #1 goalie. He did not develop right learning the North American game early in his career when he played for the Hershey Bears(1st half season struggle adjusting, then 2nd half phenomenal, playoffs was so so). Sammy should have played a 2nd season in Hershey.
With Woll, I wonder if they rushed his development a bit too fast. Another year with the Marlies, would have done Woll a lot of good.
SherVaughn30
Registered User
Binnington's personality alone would be a huge upgrade over other Leafs goalies regarding being swarmed the by Toronto sports media! I still love that one line from Binnington, "Do I looked scared to you?!"
Shane Diesel
Registered User
- Jun 8, 2021
- 2,197
- 2,900
Post it then. It's not my job to defend your assertion.
You think Binnington has played well against the Avs? That's truly delusional.10/10 self own
bleedblue1223
Registered User
- Jan 21, 2011
- 52,204
- 15,288
God it's hard to take some of takes from a few particular fanbases seriously. Of course Binnington has played well in the playoffs against Colorado, you posted that he has a 92.5% sv%, which only trails Grubauer at 92.6% since 18/19. It's even more impressive when you factor in the games when we had to dress guys like Santini, along with Walman and Mikkola before they were developed because Kadri cheapshotted Faulk. Yes, Binnington has been very good against the Avs in the playoffs. Avs have also been a vastly superior team in that timeframe, so it's a pretty silly argument for Avs fans to make.
Maybe worry about how your goaltending situation will prevent you from progressing very far.
Maybe worry about how your goaltending situation will prevent you from progressing very far.
Fatass
Registered User
- Apr 17, 2017
- 22,711
- 14,516
The entertainment of Binny with the TO media (and fans) makes this a must trade.
Shane Diesel
Registered User
- Jun 8, 2021
- 2,197
- 2,900
Out of those seven games three were .906 or below. So half his playoff games are him getting lit up and the other half are decent games. Hard to claim he plays one particular team well when half his games are disasters.
But it's all Kadri's fault.
bleedblue1223
Registered User
- Jan 21, 2011
- 52,204
- 15,288
Are you really arguing that a .925 sv% is not good? That's your claim? That's seriously your claim?
Shane Diesel
Registered User
- Jun 8, 2021
- 2,197
- 2,900
That .925 is across eight games. One of those games consisted of three shots against.
Games consisting of a SV% of .879, .840 and .906 are not good playoff percentages. The other games of .947, .939 and .944 are quite good. With Binnington it's extremes of good and bad play and his save percentage is bolstered by some great games. But that doesn't mean he hasn't played some truly awful games too.
If you want to take his aggregate save percentage and claim he's played great his entire career against the Avs in the playoffs that's your perogative, but he's played like shit the other half as well.
bleedblue1223
Registered User
- Jan 21, 2011
- 52,204
- 15,288
So, just to be clear, you are arguing that a sv% of 92.5% over 265 shots is in fact, not good?
Of all the criticisms you can have of Binnington, why do you choose this nonsensical one?
Of all the criticisms you can have of Binnington, why do you choose this nonsensical one?
Awfully big talk considering how he looked in the 2022 playoffs until yall injured him.
Edit: reading through this last page.. the mental gymnastics some of ya'll are doing to just attempt saying Binnington sucks is laughable
Shane Diesel
Registered User
- Jun 8, 2021
- 2,197
- 2,900
I'm arguing his .925 is highly deceptive because you are looking at a sample size of only seven games. Of those seven games three were shit. Four were good. And because of this tiny sample size the good games are enough to bring up his SV% to a decent number.
You think playing three out of seven playoff (half game away from an even split) games at .906 or below is playing well? That's what you're saying?
A whole 67 minutes of actual game time. Wow.
bleedblue1223
Registered User
- Jan 21, 2011
- 52,204
- 15,288
So, my full sample of playoff games is deceptive, but your smaller portion of that sample isn't? Who is the one that is deceptively cherry picking stats to try and make their argument?
The 2 options are either, Binnington as a whole has played the Avs well in the playoffs, or that playoff stats should always be taken with a grain of salt because of small samples, which also invalidates your argument. Either way, for all of the arguments you could make against Binnington, you are choosing one of the dumbest.
- Status
