The new gm isn't willing to move someone just to get a bad return. He stated they need to be wowed otherwise there fine with these guys finishing out there careers in Chicago... if anything I could see kane and maf getting a team friendly contract toews I don't see that happening...
Value of: Jonathan Toews w/ no salary retention
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Does the OP really think there will be a "price" for Toews with no salary retention? The question should be what do you have to give away on top of Toews to get rid of him.
Putting aside that we don’t have a ‘22 pick, why would we do this rather than just keep him one year and then he’s off the books. Use your noggin.
WANT? In a salary capped world it will cost Chicago a 1st or more to get rid of him.
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The new GM has announced a rebuild. He sends Toews home 1st.
Do people not get that the OP is not a Hawk fan?
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I think he could be traded to the Seattle Kraken which is where I see him going with no retention on Chicago's end. Would be a good leader if Giordano is traded, but the other thing too is Toews wants to win. But also, doubt he waives unless it's a contender or Winnipeg, or a team does it if they take on his whole contract.
Say Seattle, I'd imagine a 2nd comes with him and going to Chicago would likely be Mason Appleton or Ryan Donato. Or maybe a 1-for-1 of Toews for Grubauer.
Say Seattle, I'd imagine a 2nd comes with him and going to Chicago would likely be Mason Appleton or Ryan Donato. Or maybe a 1-for-1 of Toews for Grubauer.
Chicago is not adding to move him. He has a year left at a cap hit that doesn’t hurt them.
Bingo perfectly stated. Chicago isn't in need of cap relief and as much as they would like to move kane or toews to open up spots for the kids and get back a return, they fully understand that they would have to retain salary and take on a bad contract or allow these kids to develop and learn from the veterans..
Simply looking at contacts, Chicago currently have 24 on the team and 47 in the minors so one would have to think Chicago probably wants high draft picks ... hypothetical kane trade would probably bring back 2 or 3 young prospects Chicago would be close to exceeding the 50 contract mark...
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With no retention is impossible.
I mean, in theory it's possible. But it would require sending him and Debrincat to a team with that much cap space lol. That leaves Arizona
Otherwise nobody touches that cap hit
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Best bet is calling up Holland again.
He'll probably dump some assets without asking for retention.
He'll probably dump some assets without asking for retention.
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Not really. Fox new deal starts next year. Takes up 8.7million more than this ELC deal at 9.5. Zibby also gets his raise next year. 3 million more at 8.5. Strome is UFA and due for a raise.
NYR isn't taking a broken down 10.5m 3rd line center with no retention.
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what I’m saying is what team out there can
1 take on full salary
2 he won’t block going there because it’s a playoff team.
many of the teams with cap space likely won’t have it next year
Chicago doesn’t need Toews’ cap space. Chicago won’t give an asset to get it. Chicago has NO NEED for Del Zotto.
Why does a rebuilding team give up a decent prospect to move a contract that has no impact on their cap situation?
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You missed the part where Team C gives up an asset for Toews @ 25%. So unless you think that asset is worse than what it would take for Melnyk to save some pennies.. then your reply has no logic behind it.
