Jonathan Huberdeau

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Wait, you're psychic?

Seriously, it only takes one team to really like and he's in the top 3. If Johansen was taken 4th overall last year, I think Huberdeau can make it into the top 3. 1st overall? Maybe, but it would be a real surprise.

Last year, after Taylor and Tyler, everyone's picks were all over the place, so no big surprise that Johansen went 4th. This year according to Bob's last scout rankings, ony 3 players were named as potentially going 1st. They were Larsson, RNH and Landeskog. Sure things can change but as of what we know now, I'd be shocked if Huberdeau went top 3. And if he did I'd be screaming bloody murder for the Oilers to trade up to 4th and get whichever of the 3 I named was still on the table.
 
Mindsets like what?

We're not allowed to think that Huberdeau has no chance at being drafted first overall?

It depends on the team I guess, but if Edmonton's picking, I doubt he has any chance, and that's not a sleight on him at all.
Even if you think that way, which I believe is a mistake, why even state it in those terms. No need to speak in absolutes. If he has a Claude Giroux type playoffs I think there is a very good shot he goes #1.
 
Even if you think that way, which I believe is a mistake, why even state it in those terms. No need to speak in absolutes. If he has a Claude Giroux type playoffs I think there is a very good shot he goes #1.

The way i see it, doing very well in the playoffs is along the lines of doing well at the WJC. Big stage and good for him if he does well, but its only a part of what scouts and teams are looking at. Having him jump ~5 spots (depending on whose list you go off of) based off playoff alone is a reach IMO.
 
Ohhhh, I'd love to see him go top 3!!!

ok, us isles fans get it! you don't want the isles to select him. seriously though, you need to get over this thing you seem to have against this kid. you have even stated over on the isles board that you don't know anything about him!
 
The way i see it, doing very well in the playoffs is along the lines of doing well at the WJC. Big stage and good for him if he does well, but its only a part of what scouts and teams are looking at. Having him jump ~5 spots (depending on whose list you go off of) based off playoff alone is a reach IMO.
If a player elevates his game in the playoffs and memorial cup to the level of 2.5/3 PPG then yes, I believe he could jump 5 spots. There isn't much to separate the top 7 in this draft. I believe it was a poor year for NJ to flop.
 
Only because Hopkins is in the dub...It's mindsets like this in the hockey world that make this site less enjoyable.

If Huberdeau is around a 3 PPG in the playoffs I "believe" he will be the top pick in the draft or at least considered the top prospect in the draft.

It's simple logic that Huberdeau will not be the top selection. He is currently peaking into the top 3 as Bob Mac has stated. I wouldn't be surprised to see him jump ahead of Landeskog into the top 4 but their will be a dogfight back and fourth between him and Couturier.

You actually think that Huberdeau is going to post 3 PPG through out the entire playoffs. Those are some fairly lofty expectations. Does everyone think he's going to be a center at the next level?
 
That entire St. John's team is stacked. For that reason I don't see Huberdeau top 3. I'm not saying he isn't a great player, but it's hard to tell amongst that team.
 
I think EDM is pretty set on one of Larsson or RNH assuming they get 1st pick. And I could see the Avs getting one of Larsson or Landeskog. So I think the chances are pretty slim
 
I very much doubt it. Maybe the team that drafts #1 overall likes him as the #1 player but I very much doubt that the team wouldn't trade down.

I think the better question is "Is Huberdeau considered the #1 prospect by any team?" because this question is essentially "Does Edmonton/lottery winner consider Huberdeau the #1 prospect?"
 
And why's that? Are you afraid the Isles select him?:shakehead
Can you do your homework about Huberdeau please? And you're the one who hope for Strome! Get a clue... BTW Huberdeau > Strome.

ok, us isles fans get it! you don't want the isles to select him. seriously though, you need to get over this thing you seem to have against this kid. you have even stated over on the isles board that you don't know anything about him!

Not very classy, guys.

Demonization and defamation all in one punch.

:shakehead

Surely my very general comment here didn't warrant either...
 
The way i see it, doing very well in the playoffs is along the lines of doing well at the WJC. Big stage and good for him if he does well, but its only a part of what scouts and teams are looking at. Having him jump ~5 spots (depending on whose list you go off of) based off playoff alone is a reach IMO.

While I agree with a lot of what you've said up to this point, Johansen's stock really rose due to the playoffs and combine/interviews. According to Bob Mckenzie, Johansen went from around #8-10 to top-5 on numerous team draft sheets.

I hope Huberdeau goes before the Jackets pick because he's exactly the type of player (high natural skill set, high risk/reward, winger) we'd draft and then fail to develop.
 
If a player elevates his game in the playoffs and memorial cup to the level of 2.5/3 PPG then yes, I believe he could jump 5 spots. There isn't much to separate the top 7 in this draft. I believe it was a poor year for NJ to flop.

If there isnt much separating the top 7 this year, then i think we'd be talking about the 'big 7' instead of "big 4".

Huberdeau is currently averaging 3 PPG this playoffs, but RNH is averaging just over 2 PPG and Couturier is averaging 2 PPG. Does that really make up the difference? Personally i dont think so, if you do, thats fine and well have to agree to disagree.
 
That entire St. John's team is stacked. For that reason I don't see Huberdeau top 3. I'm not saying he isn't a great player, but it's hard to tell amongst that team.

***Saint John*** is considered stacked in large part due to Huberdeau and his linemates.

That said I doubt he'll be top 3, but I wouldn't be shocked.
 
Yeah im just putting this out there wondering how much emphasis is put on playoff and memorial cup performance. With Kitchener eliminated there is no landeskog, RNH and red deer will be in tough with probably saskatoon, and st john is the hands down favorite from the q which means no couturier,huberdeau could be the top prospect at the memorial cup. If he really stands out there and st john wins, could this put him in the 1st overall consideration? If i remember correctly even after pat kane shot up the rankings in his draft year not many lists had him #1 overall at this point of the season, and guys like vorachek were in the conversation for first overall after esposito fell.
 
I really want the Islanders to grab him where ever they are slotted. I see him and Tavares fitting well together.

Huberdeau - Tavares - Neiderrieter
 
Not very classy, guys.

Demonization and defamation all in one punch.

:shakehead

Surely my very general comment here didn't warrant either...

Sorry if you think I've been harsh or impolite?:dunno:... But can you answer the question? You seem to dislike Huberdeau for some unknown reason. That's the reason I invite you to make your homework regarding Huberdeau because I know you already state that you don't know anything about him. So what is the reason you want him selected top 3 and not be selected by the Isles??
 
I think he'll be in the 5-8 range. He might drop a bit depending on teams needs, kinda like how Gorms dropped to 13 last year.

The reason why Gorms and Fowler dropped was because alot of teams felt you better off(ie safer) drafting Forwards then defensemen because defensemen take longer to develop. It seems there is a clear cut top 8 this year but if any of them drop out of the top 8 I think it will be either Hamilton or Murphy(ie the defensemen)
 
Huberdeau is overrated due to the fumbling defence and weak goalies of the Q. After watching some of his games, and Couturier's, it's really amazing. At least Couturier doesn't have a good team. When the Sea Dogs play against other Q teams it just looks ridiculous. I'm sure I could do a better job playing against them (exaggeration.)

Anyway, I can see him MAYBE going 5th, but I doubt it. Top 8 probably.
 
Huberdeau is overrated due to the fumbling defence and weak goalies of the Q. After watching some of his games, and Couturier's, it's really amazing. At least Couturier doesn't have a good team. When the Sea Dogs play against other Q teams it just looks ridiculous. I'm sure I could do a better job playing against them (exaggeration.)

Anyway, I can see him MAYBE going 5th, but I doubt it. Top 8 probably.

Couturiers team is ranked 10th in the CHL, pretty good if you ask me
 
Sorry if you think I've been harsh or impolite?:dunno:... But can you answer the question? You seem to dislike Huberdeau for some unknown reason. That's the reason I invite you to make your homework regarding Huberdeau because I know you already state that you don't know anything about him. So what is the reason you want him selected top 3 and not be selected by the Isles??


I see a lot of Josh Bailey in Huberdeau. Not that its a bad thing, I still think Bailey will put it together. Bailey did put up 96 points on a very stacked Windsor team.

If the Isles are picking five I rather pick Strome or Murphy or Hamilton. I really like Strome's game. I think he has that it factor.
 

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