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Jonathan Huberdeau

johnman10 said:
Yea I'm a fan of Huberdeau and I dunno about that mvp. He was good, but there are a few other players who were just as deserving. I think a lot of it came down to the final game and he performed well. However I do feel players often get hardware because of their names if its close. The thing I remember most for this is the 09 world jrs. Canadas top 3 were announced as Tavares, Eberle, and Subban. While Tavares got top forward and mvp. Who was the scoring leader in the tournament? Hodgson. Canadas top 3 was realistically awarded to "the guy going 1st overall, the guy who scored the clutch goal, and the Dman who everyone is suddenly falling in love with" Hodgson clearly was at least top 3 on the team that tournament and played good every game, yet got snubbed. Im not saying Huberdeau wasnt worthy of his mvp, but its debatable. And the fact that he is shooting up the rankings and seems to be the prospect flavor of the month only helped him when getting that award, I would almost guarantee it.
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Huberdeau had the primary assist on 2 GWG and scored the third. He also scored the insurance goal in the final. His MVP was all about when he scored.
 
HUBERDEAU drafted 5th OVERALL in the KHL draft by VITYAZ Chekov...Couturier taken in the 6th round by a different team (so the latter not serious BUT the former might be)....WILL Vityaz make abig offer to HUBERDEAU? IF he goes top 3in the NHL draft that is probably close to $4million per year if he hits his entry bonuses...could the Russkies exceed that? What about taxes? and perks ? (Free housing? Free w----well you know what i mean-they gonna take real good care of him if he goes over).
 
hawksfan50 said:
HUBERDEAU drafted 5th OVERALL in the KHL draft by VITYAZ Chekov...Couturier taken in the 6th round by a different team (so the latter not serious BUT the former might be)....WILL Vityaz make abig offer to HUBERDEAU? IF he goes top 3in the NHL draft that is probably close to $4million per year if he hits his entry bonuses...could the Russkies exceed that? What about taxes? and perks ? (Free housing? Free w----well you know what i mean-they gonna take real good care of him if he goes over).
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No point in even taling about what the KHL will offer. It will have no effect. Players born in North America will not even think twice about playing in Russia when they are a year at most away from being a new rising star in the show.
 
It happens every year. Big name prospects get drafted in the KHL every year and nothing comes of it.
 
Whoever drafts this kid, better send him back to juniors or they will definitely screw up his development. Huberdeau needs to work on his skating, because he doesn't have that breakway speed and needs to get stronger. He wasn't very good on along the boards. He has talent, but also has holes.
 
Jabba11 said:
I didn't really mentionned Huberdeau ranked before Couturier, but I've created this thread back in december.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=854249
Hale The Villain said:
Hindsight is 20 20.

I could create a thread claiming Yakupov will fall to the 2nd round next season. It somehow becoming true doesn't change the fact it was ridiculous to suggest it at the time.
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That's not how I see it at all. If you read the first couple pages of that thread you've got 2 guys in scoutman and lalaprise who actually do scouting work, who actually watch a tonne of QMJHL games and who have an idea of how to assess talent, and both were saying "Huberdeau could go as high or higher than Couturier." But the mainstream outlets weren't saying the same yet, so you've got a tonne of other posters calling these views crazy, despite the fact that those posters probably never watch the QMJHL, while lala and scoutman actually do follow and regularly scout the league. A perfect example of how so many people one hfboards pretend to have seen so much of various prospects, but never actually have (many posters just parrot what they have heard from tv analysts/online), but how a select few posters (like lala and scoutman) actually do watch the games, and actually do know what they're talking about.
 
canucksPK said:
Overall I think you can all agree huberdeau is going to get drafted between 3-6.
3. Florida - no doubt he'd play for them next year. their lack of depth on offense and terrible powerplay and with virtually no top line talent. He'd most likely crack their top 6 and be their relied upon scorer.

4. New Jersey - I don't think New Jersey will draft him because of their high end skill on the wing and need for centers. If he did get drafted by New Jersey I don't think he'd crack the roster because they won't want him as a third liner because that isn't his sort of role, and because he wouldn't get the sort of minutes he would in junior.

5. NYI - IMO this is the best fit for Huberdeau. Huberdeau-Tavares-Moulson- Streit and whatever else Dman plays on the top PP for them equals a finally functional pp unit. He'd crack their roster because they love bringin in guys young and are just starting to get some skill up front.

Ottawa - If he falls to 6th Sens fans will be screaming with joy but with this years depth who knows. He'd make their line up most likely and probably play with Spezza by the end of the year. Imagine the plays those two would make.

IS he NHL ready? physically maybe not. But most likely whatever team drafts him will need his skill up front.
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Nope. Tallon and Santos have stated that they won't rush prospects and mess up their development. Our club has done that enough already.
I would be happy if we got Huberdeau at 3 but I don't expect to see him in the bigs for at least another year.
 
Brooklyndevil said:
Whoever drafts this kid, better send him back to juniors or they will definitely screw up his development. Huberdeau needs to work on his skating, because he doesn't have that breakway speed and needs to get stronger. He wasn't very good on along the boards. He has talent, but also has holes.
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He's pretty fast actually. He's the first one in and the first one backchecking. FACT (^^)

@ puckstairs he'll go top 5 for certain. Top 3 will be a great accomplishment and he's certainly being CONSIDERED for that, but #1 is a bit of a stretch even for Yuber
 
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Huberdeau: is he worth it?

if you look at Johnathon Huberdeau, ( C, St.John [QMJHL] ) and what he has accomplished this year, ( Memorial Cup, 100+ points) you would think that he deserves a top 5 speculation. At the combine today, Huberdeau's numbers were terrifying. Yes, you can argue that it was just 12 days ago that he was on the ice, but if you could only do 2 Bench Presses, ( 6.5 presses behind 2010 average for ALL prospects at the combine last year) and is nearly 9'' behind the average for long jump on the spot, do you think that Huberdeau has bust potential? ( or do you think he is still recovering from the memorial cup?) I don't think it was a fluke he put up the 106 points or whatever, or that he wont tournament MVP, its just... weird that he did this bad at the combine. either way, i wanna know what you guys think.
 
DaftyDangles said:
if you look at Johnathon Huberdeau, ( C, St.John [QMJHL] ) and what he has accomplished this year, ( Memorial Cup, 100+ points) you would think that he deserves a top 5 speculation. At the combine today, Huberdeau's numbers were terrifying. Yes, you can argue that it was just 12 days ago that he was on the ice, but if you could only do 2 Bench Presses, ( 6.5 presses behind 2010 average for ALL prospects at the combine last year) and is nearly 9'' behind the average for long jump on the spot, do you think that Huberdeau has bust potential? ( or do you think he is still recovering from the memorial cup?) I don't think it was a fluke he put up the 106 points or whatever, or that he wont tournament MVP, its just... weird that he did this bad at the combine. either way, i wanna know what you guys think.
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No, after today's results, Huberdeau is not worthy of a top 5 selection.:loony:
 
DaftyDangles said:
if you look at Johnathon Huberdeau, ( C, St.John [QMJHL] ) and what he has accomplished this year, ( Memorial Cup, 100+ points) you would think that he deserves a top 5 speculation. At the combine today, Huberdeau's numbers were terrifying. Yes, you can argue that it was just 12 days ago that he was on the ice, but if you could only do 2 Bench Presses, ( 6.5 presses behind 2010 average for ALL prospects at the combine last year) and is nearly 9'' behind the average for long jump on the spot, do you think that Huberdeau has bust potential? ( or do you think he is still recovering from the memorial cup?) I don't think it was a fluke he put up the 106 points or whatever, or that he wont tournament MVP, its just... weird that he did this bad at the combine. either way, i wanna know what you guys think.
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As long as his work ethic isn't in question, all that means is he has more room for improvement IMO. And it's not like it really affected his performance in high traffic areas all that much.
 
Honestly, a player who has just come off of a 2 month playoff run will lose a ton of weight and strength. Most of the players coming into the Combine have had a few months to train for it, so yes, he is worth the pick.

He has room for improvement, which could help his entire game quite a bit.
 
Combine doesn't mean that much, but it's fun.

Top 5? Easily.

First overall? Very doubtful.
 
decadentia said:
I always thought the combine stuff was a bit much anyhow. It doesn't correlate to how he will perform at the NHL level.
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Well, lots of it doesn't, but there are some tests with research showing it correlates to later success, at least according the fitness and conditioning expert that they interviewed at the combine.

Stuff like benchpress, sit-ups, etc. are pretty much useless, but the 2 jumping tests and the Wingate are pretty good predictors of power and explosiveness at the next level.
 
I've been talking to those who have watched Huberdeau play regularly and the general consensus is that he compares very easily to Nazem Kadri in terms of slickness, skill, and hockey IQ. I asked a couple of guys whether they thought of Huberdeau as a player with higher potential and they were both a bit ambivalent about it. Everything I've seen of Huberdeau shows a player with a very good toolbox of skills, including a much better shot, but I'm not sure if I see the same slickness that Kadri has. It doesn't mean he'll bust, but if I remember correctly, Kadri didn't exactly light the world on fire in his combine testings, so I wouldn't take the results very seriously.

I read on another board that the combine results are treated as both collectively and individually. Scouts look for cues to a player's overall personality from how he attacks a test or reacts to it afterwards.
 
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