Jonathan Huberdeau

Personally I don't think any of RNH, Huberdeau, or Couturier will be going back to junior next year, which once again sucks for the World Junior team.

Huberdeau has a bit to work on before he is NHL ready...I love the guy and think he is a top 3 pick for the draft, but I would like to see his NHL team send him back to work on skating, and improving more defensivly and getting stronger, Saint John has A LOT of players coming back next year and could very well make another run.
 
Personally I don't think any of RNH, Huberdeau, or Couturier will be going back to junior next year, which once again sucks for the World Junior team.

It also sucks for whichever team drafts them, because of those three, only Couturier is NHL-ready.

Didn't the Oilers say that whichever of the two guys they're looking at that they end up with, they will be sending them back next year?
 
Huberdeau has a bit to work on before he is NHL ready...I love the guy and think he is a top 3 pick for the draft, but I would like to see his NHL team send him back to work on skating, and improving more defensivly and getting stronger, Saint John has A LOT of players coming back next year and could very well make another run.

If the Avs draft Huberdeau I'd like to see them give him a game or two in the NHL just to see where he stands in terms of required development and then send him back down.
 
Huberdeau has a bit to work on before he is NHL ready...I love the guy and think he is a top 3 pick for the draft, but I would like to see his NHL team send him back to work on skating, and improving more defensivly and getting stronger, Saint John has A LOT of players coming back next year and could very well make another run.

I'd like to see it to, for him and the World Junior team, but in today's NHL guys like that don't get sent back. Most people thought Jeff Skinner would go back, but his hands were too good to send him back, and I think that's gonna be the case with Huberdeau. I can see this kid scoring over 20 goals next year.

Obviously I haven't seen nearly as much of him as you have, but I didn't think his size was too bad. His size and speed are something that his IQ, skill and grit seem to compensate for, from what I've seen.

Either way, we'll see what happens, but I have a feeling that he'll follow the trend of recent players like Skinner, Burmistrov, Seguin, Kane, Duchene.. admittedly all better skaters but like I said I think his skill will make up for it. Teams are going to want that skill on their powerplay next year.
 
They look like strong candidates to be in the NHL, but also with the possibility to be released by their NHL clubs to play at the WJC. All three of them (Nugent-Hopins, Huberdeau and Couturier).

Injuries on the big-league roster usually determine whether a guy is released if the player is on the NHL bubble. All this would be avoided if the NHL allowed 18 and 19-year-olds based in the CHL to play in the AHL, but that's an argument for another thread.
 
Personally I don't think any of RNH, Huberdeau, or Couturier will be going back to junior next year, which once again sucks for the World Junior team.

I guarentee at least one of them will be back. Only 5 went last year, and that was quite a bit. If I had to pick one it would be Huburdeau, he certainly should not be playing bottom 6 minutes, he's not good enough defensively or physically ready for that, and I don't think his skills are ready for top 6 either.

I really think Huburdeau is starting to get overhyped, sure he's a great player, but he wins the MVP (And he definitely wasn't a sure bet for it like in the past) and people act like he's suddenly a possible first overall candidate, and at the very least a top 3 player?

Please, if it was Stromes team who made the finals, people would be saying he's now top 3, if it was Landeskog, people would be saying hes solidified in the top 2. Huburdeau as displayed by how there was no concensus best forward for Saint John is on a very stacked team.

He was definitely impressive in the Memorial Cup, but I don't think he was impressive enough to crack the top 3 overall players. I think he might go third if the Avs take Landeskog, but I still don't know if I'd call him a top 3 player.

We'll see though at the draft, everything is up in the air at this point and were in for a lot of surprises, I think Huburdeau is getting a little overhyped, some people will say he's getting everything he deserves. There's diffrences in opinion for sure about this draft and the players in it, but thats my personal, non proffesional take on Huburdeau and the attention he's getting.

{Mod Edit}
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I guarentee at least one of them will be back. Only 5 went last year, and that was quite a bit. If I had to pick one it would be Huburdeau, he certainly should not be playing bottom 6 minutes, he's not good enough defensively or physically ready for that, and I don't think his skills are ready for top 6 either.

I really think Huburdeau is starting to get overhyped, sure he's a great player, but he wins the MVP (And he definitely wasn't a sure bet for it like in the past) and people act like he's suddenly a possible first overall candidate, and at the very least a top 3 player?

Please, if it was Stromes team who made the finals, people would be saying he's now top 3, if it was Landeskog, people would be saying hes solidified in the top 2. Huburdeau as displayed by how there was no concensus best forward for Saint John is on a very stacked team.

He was definitely impressive in the Memorial Cup, but I don't think he was impressive enough to crack the top 3 overall players. I think he might go third if the Avs take Landeskog, but I still don't know if I'd call him a top 3 player.

We'll see though at the draft, everything is up in the air at this point and were in for a lot of surprises, I think Huburdeau is getting a little overhyped, some people will say he's getting everything he deserves. There's diffrences in opinion for sure about this draft and the players in it, but thats my personal, non proffesional take on Huburdeau and the attention he's getting.

You know, had you not been a notable Q hater, people might take what you say seriously. If Huberdeau was a good OHL kid you'd be all over him saying he's the second coming of christ so please, don't give me this ''overhyped'' thing. He's pegged for a top 3 pick now for a reason.
 
Overall I think you can all agree huberdeau is going to get drafted between 3-6.
3. Florida - no doubt he'd play for them next year. their lack of depth on offense and terrible powerplay and with virtually no top line talent. He'd most likely crack their top 6 and be their relied upon scorer.

4. New Jersey - I don't think New Jersey will draft him because of their high end skill on the wing and need for centers. If he did get drafted by New Jersey I don't think he'd crack the roster because they won't want him as a third liner because that isn't his sort of role, and because he wouldn't get the sort of minutes he would in junior.

5. NYI - IMO this is the best fit for Huberdeau. Huberdeau-Tavares-Moulson- Streit and whatever else Dman plays on the top PP for them equals a finally functional pp unit. He'd crack their roster because they love bringin in guys young and are just starting to get some skill up front.

Ottawa - If he falls to 6th Sens fans will be screaming with joy but with this years depth who knows. He'd make their line up most likely and probably play with Spezza by the end of the year. Imagine the plays those two would make.

IS he NHL ready? physically maybe not. But most likely whatever team drafts him will need his skill up front.
 
Didn't Adam Henrique outscore Taylor Hall last year at the Memorial Cup and ended up losing the MVP to the future #1 pick?

What I'm trying to say is that they'll give it to the prospect who's most likely to garner some attention instead of the kid that really deserves it when it's real close in terms of voting.
 
Didn't Adam Henrique outscore Taylor Hall last year at the Memorial Cup and ended up losing the MVP to the future #1 pick?

What I'm trying to say is that they'll give it to the prospect who's most likely to garner some attention instead of the kid that really deserves it when it's real close in terms of voting.

Intangibles brah.
 
Yea I'm a fan of Huberdeau and I dunno about that mvp. He was good, but there are a few other players who were just as deserving. I think a lot of it came down to the final game and he performed well. However I do feel players often get hardware because of their names if its close. The thing I remember most for this is the 09 world jrs. Canadas top 3 were announced as Tavares, Eberle, and Subban. While Tavares got top forward and mvp. Who was the scoring leader in the tournament? Hodgson. Canadas top 3 was realistically awarded to "the guy going 1st overall, the guy who scored the clutch goal, and the Dman who everyone is suddenly falling in love with" Hodgson clearly was at least top 3 on the team that tournament and played good every game, yet got snubbed. Im not saying Huberdeau wasnt worthy of his mvp, but its debatable. And the fact that he is shooting up the rankings and seems to be the prospect flavor of the month only helped him when getting that award, I would almost guarantee it.
 
Here's my 11min Jonathan Huberdeau compilation video. its been pretty amazing watching him since last year Q playoff were he broke a league record for most goal by a 16yo (i believe). If he's not back in the league next year it was a joy to watch him this past 2 year. I knew he had something special watching him last year but no way i would have predict the kind of year he just had. if last year you would have tell me he was going to get pick before Couturier i probably would have laugh in your face. Amazing season and playoff. Kudos to Lalaprise & Scoutman who back in January said they had him rank before Couturie and everyone call them crazy.

http://nhldraftvideo.blogspot.com/2011/05/2011-prospect-jonathan-huberdeau.html
 
If you want to believe there's an insult there go right ahead. I could care less if you take offense to that.

What's more interesting is that your excuse for not replying, really that shows you aren't prepared to argue your opinion so you resort to calling me ignorant since my opinion is different from yours. Same with Blame Subban.

I said you were being ignorant because you took my opinion and then assumed that I based it off nothing but Huberdeau winning the MVP, like I'm a fool who can't properly judge things. You had no reason to suggest that that's where I reached my conclusion, for all you know I've had that belief for months.

Since you want my opinion though I'll give it; I'd seen Huberdeau in clips but never in real life. My opinion wasn't formed because it was at the Memorial Cup, it was because that was my first time watching him play in full games, and that's where I formed the belief that he'll make the NHL next year and have an impact. It has nothing to do with the MVP, although he did deserve it and was easily the best forward on his team. It's all to do with his hands, shot, and grit. World class, IMO.

You say Strome is better, and that may well be. But if he is that's definitely no sleight to Huberdeau, instead to me that would suggest a ridiculously stacked draft. Unfortunately though, I've never seen Strome play a full game so I can't tell you who I think is better, just that Strome would have to be amazing to be better than Huberdeau (which he might be). But since I've now seen Huberdeau, Strome is now the only high end prospect that I've yet to see, so I'll reserve my judgement on him.

As far as your claim that he is overrated, can you justify that? Because what I've seen is an elite shot, elite hands, with great playmaking, clutch goals, with grit and determination. So what is it that you see that counters that?
 
Here's my 11min Jonathan Huberdeau compilation video. its been pretty amazing watching him since last year Q playoff were he broke a league record for most goal by a 16yo (i believe). If he's not back in the league next year it was a joy to watch him this past 2 year. I knew he had something special watching him last year but no way i would have predict the kind of year he just had. if last year you would have tell me he was going to get pick before Couturier i probably would have laugh in your face. Amazing season and playoff. Kudos to Lalaprise & Scoutman who back in January said they had him rank before Couturie and everyone call them crazy.

http://nhldraftvideo.blogspot.com/2011/05/2011-prospect-jonathan-huberdeau.html

I didn't really mentionned Huberdeau ranked before Couturier, but I've created this thread back in december.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=854249
 
would Huberdeau be better suited at wing in the NHL? Phillips played center most of the time with him right?

I just like his versatility. If he goes to the Avs, I think he will absolutely be a winger unless they trade Stastny. His size, two way play and ability to pass or score are both very intriguing to me and he would be a very good fit for the Avs on Duchene's wing.
 
The first reply to that has already cracked me up.

Couturier skills are mad underrated. When Couturier was leading the league in pts, Huberdeau barely got 30pts. Nothing laughable about. I'd still pick Couturier ahead of Huberdeau.
 
I said you were being ignorant because you took my opinion and then assumed that I based it off nothing but Huberdeau winning the MVP, like I'm a fool who can't properly judge things. You had no reason to suggest that that's where I reached my conclusion, for all you know I've had that belief for months.

Since you want my opinion though I'll give it; I'd seen Huberdeau in clips but never in real life. My opinion wasn't formed because it was at the Memorial Cup, it was because that was my first time watching him play in full games, and that's where I formed the belief that he'll make the NHL next year and have an impact. It has nothing to do with the MVP, although he did deserve it and was easily the best forward on his team. It's all to do with his hands, shot, and grit. World class, IMO.

You say Strome is better, and that may well be. But if he is that's definitely no sleight to Huberdeau, instead to me that would suggest a ridiculously stacked draft. Unfortunately though, I've never seen Strome play a full game so I can't tell you who I think is better, just that Strome would have to be amazing to be better than Huberdeau (which he might be). But since I've now seen Huberdeau, Strome is now the only high end prospect that I've yet to see, so I'll reserve my judgement on him.

As far as your claim that he is overrated, can you justify that? Because what I've seen is an elite shot, elite hands, with great playmaking, clutch goals, with grit and determination. So what is it that you see that counters that?

So many things wrong about this post. I'll quickly adress everyting.

First paragraph. I didn't make any conclusions about you or anyone else, I said Huburdeau is being overrated because he's the last top prospect left and he's the flavour of the month. It's hard to argue that. His Memorial Cup wasn't that spectacular, others were probably just as deserving of the MVP. Maybe your English isn't very good and you read it wrong, or you interpreted it wrong, but i'd like to know where you got the idea I was talking to you directly, besides the quote at the top which was adressing the part about who'll be in the NHL.

Second paragraph. I really don't care where your opinion comes from, but that should have been in your first post instead of freaking out and claiming I called you out.

Third paragraph. Who's talking about Strome? Not me. Not recently. Don't bring him up in this, it's completely off topic, I was talking about the recent surge of opinions on Huburdeau.

Last paragraph. I think I've already explained that, Huburdeau is the last top prospect left playing, it's understandable people go a little crazy for him, but suddenly he's better than other players because they're not playing anymore? I could understand that if Huburdeau blew people away with a Memorial Cup performance, which he did not do and Huburdeau was by no means the concensus MVP, De Serres very well could have won that as well, and Huburdeau wasn't exactly head and shoulders better than every forward on his team in the Memorial Cup. It's speculation that he's now top 3, by people on these boards, we haven't heard someone like Bob McKenzie come out and say scouts now say Huburdeau could go top 3 or top 1 ect ect.

Huburdeau's skills were already known, maybe not to people on these boards who don't see him often, but the scouts definitely knew about it already. We'll see at the draft, I think he's being overhyped since he's the last prospect left and he won the MVP on the most stacked team in the CHL, someone can disagree with me, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong but some people disagree with me. It's opinions, and because I don't share the same opinions doesn't mean I'm a QMJHL hater. Pretty much people say this because I do not like Beaulieu, which isn't uncommon, I'm not the only one, and because I said Huburdeau seems to be getting overhyped. Last year everyone said Skinner was overhyped because he went GPG in the OHL playoffs, and I was one of the few people who said he wasn't, so maybe it's reveresed now and people saying No Huburdeau isn't overhyped he's just good are right, we don't know yet, but I still think he is and it's pretty stupid to dismiss my opinion because it's diffrent from someone elses who thinks they're more correct than I am.

I say what I saw, I'm not afraid to speak my mind, and I'll keep doing it. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, If I'm right good on me. I've stated my opinion, take it, or offer your own, don't just dismiss mine and say I insulted you.
 
They look like strong candidates to be in the NHL, but also with the possibility to be released by their NHL clubs to play at the WJC. All three of them (Nugent-Hopins, Huberdeau and Couturier).

Injuries on the big-league roster usually determine whether a guy is released if the player is on the NHL bubble. All this would be avoided if the NHL allowed 18 and 19-year-olds based in the CHL to play in the AHL, but that's an argument for another thread.

there is no way an NHL team releases one of these guys to play in that tourney. if they go to the NHL, they will stay in the NHL.
 
Panthers fans would really want Huberdeau over Couturier/Landeskog?

it seems to be split amongst us. Landeskog seems to be the safe pick of the group you know what you have there on the wing. Couturier the defensively responsible big guy that could be a beast in time. But Huberdeau I think has the best offensive upside and the potential to be a stud at the C or the wing for us for a long time going.

We need the offensive impact that he could bring more then anything else. I like him as the third best prospect in the draft imo behind Larsson first and then RNH second.
 
it seems to be split amongst us. Landeskog seems to be the safe pick of the group you know what you have there on the wing. Couturier the defensively responsible big guy that could be a beast in time. But Huberdeau I think has the best offensive upside and the potential to be a stud at the C or the wing for us for a long time going.

We need the offensive impact that he could bring more then anything else. I like him as the third best prospect in the draft imo behind Larsson first and then RNH second.

Tallon salivates over prospects like Couturier. I would not be surprised one bit if he took him over Landeskog and Huberdeau. I don't think Huberdeau even garners consideration from Tallon at the Panthers pick.
 
Couturier skills are mad underrated. When Couturier was leading the league in pts, Huberdeau barely got 30pts. Nothing laughable about. I'd still pick Couturier ahead of Huberdeau.

poor comparison

Couturier already had a full season on him in which he also only got 31pts
 
poor comparison

Couturier already had a full season on him in which he also only got 31pts

Bingo.

Couturier already had a full season and a half under his belt since he started playing in the "Q" at 15 year of age if I'm not mistaken. Huberdeau racked up a point every 2 games and for a 16 year old playing bottom 6 minutes, that's actually pretty impressive if you ask me.

Sean is a good prospect, don't get me wrong but downplaying Huberdeau's talent cause Couturier led the league in pts last year is a bogus statement IMO.
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad