Jonathan Huberdeau

It's hilarious to read these guys go back and forth about guys who are a tier below the top forwards (Couturier, Landeskog and Strome). I would love to be picking 4th or 5th or even 10th if these guys were calling the shots for NHL teams. They would have Huberdeau, RNH and Larsson off the board top three, and the three best players in the Draft would still be there at #4.

Aren't you worried that the majority of scouts disagree with you? Just wait till Bob Mack does his final rankings, with insight from the NHL teams, and you will see Larsson, RNH, and Huberdeau will probably be ahead of the so-called 3 best players in the draft, with the exception of maybe Landeskog due to intangibles.

This is a draft where a guy like Strome could end up the best player in 5 years, but IMO the 3 guys you mentioned have 0% chance of going 1st overall, which is why we aren't talking about them in this thread.
 
Aren't you worried that the majority of scouts disagree with you?

Not even a little bit. Why would I worry about someone else having a differing opinion?

And that's assuming that what you're saying is true, and you have no idea if it is or not.

Just wait till Bob Mack does his final rankings, with insight from the NHL teams, and you will see Larsson, RNH, and Huberdeau will probably be ahead of the so-called 3 best players in the draft, with the exception of maybe Landeskog due to intangibles.

Yeah, they probably will be. And?

but IMO the 3 guys you mentioned have 0% chance of going 1st overall,

That means absolutely nothing.
 
This is the third different person Dater has pegged as being the top Avs pick since the season ended. Dude is just grasping at straws.
 
Dater is just throwing darts at names at this pt. Hype of the month? TOP AVS PICK.
 
He truly doesn't know who these players are and what they bring to the table. That's not his job as an AVS beat writer...but it's truth that the guy is close to the Avs as an organization.

For me, it gives me some hope as a big Huberdeau supporter.
 
Vityaz Chekhov drafted Huberdeau with the 5th overall pick in the KHL Junior Draft as the only player from North America in the first round. They also drafted Matthew Dumba from the Red Deer Rebels with the 60th overall pick.

Like those guys would play in Russia someday... :laugh:
 
Vityaz Chekhov drafted Huberdeau with the 5th overall pick in the KHL Junior Draft as the only player from North America in the first round. They also drafted Matthew Dumba from the Red Deer Rebels with the 60th overall pick.

Like those guys would play in Russia someday... :laugh:

That's a bit high; for comparison, Taylor Hall was drafted by a KHL team (don't remember which one) in the 4th round in 2009. Then again, Vityaz tends to draft physical players; do Huberdeau play the physical game well?

Maybe after either guy win the Stanley Cup. Or if the NHL was locked out again. Then will you see Dumba, Huberdeau playing in the KHL.
 
That's a bit high; for comparison, Taylor Hall was drafted by a KHL team (don't remember which one) in the 4th round in 2009. Then again, Vityaz tends to draft physical players; do Huberdeau play the physical game well?

Maybe after either guy win the Stanley Cup. Or if the NHL was locked out again. Then will you see Dumba, Huberdeau playing in the KHL.

OK, maybe I was exaggerating a bit, but still using 5th pick to Huberdeau is a total waste, as it's unlikely at least that he would play there.

EDIT: Vityaz picked Mark McNeill with the 110th overall pick. They're obviously hoping for a lockout now...
 
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Vityaz Chekhov are just a massive joke of an organization, I wouldn't take anything they do seriously. A horrendous team who focuses far more on side shows and dirty playing than actually playing the game.
 
I would be shocked if Huberdeau does not go top 3, absolutely shocked. If I had to choose between him and RNH I would take Huberdeau. But if I was looking for a dman, I see Larsson as the only guy ahead of him.
 
I would be shocked if Huberdeau does not go top 3, absolutely shocked. If I had to choose between him and RNH I would take Huberdeau. But if I was looking for a dman, I see Larsson as the only guy ahead of him.

Who knows... maybe NHL teams would take their distances towards Huberdeau because he was drafted using a KHL lottery pick! (In the KHL a lottery pick is anywhere between 1-7th overall) And fall in the NHL draft because of the KHL. It would be hilarious if Huberdeau was a top-5 pick in both leagues.

Vityaz is, or used to be, an organization that revolved around the physical game. Then again, they traded away Simon, bought out Sugden and let Gratton walk, thus losing three of their four import goons. Maybe Huberdeau is the cornerstone of Vityaz' cleanup.
 
Who knows... maybe NHL teams would take their distances towards Huberdeau because he was drafted using a KHL lottery pick! (In the KHL a lottery pick is anywhere between 1-7th overall) And fall in the NHL draft because of the KHL. It would be hilarious if Huberdeau was a top-5 pick in both leagues.

Vityaz is, or used to be, an organization that revolved around the physical game. Then again, they traded away Simon, bought out Sugden and let Gratton walk, thus losing three of their four import goons. Maybe Huberdeau is the cornerstone of Vityaz' cleanup.

Unless there was actually contact between Huberdeau and someone from Vityaz then there is absolutely no way this affects his NHL draft order. Did Vityaz just pick random CHL top prospects to throw picks away on or have they actually spoken to any of these players prior to drafting them?
 
Unless there was actually contact between Huberdeau and someone from Vityaz then there is absolutely no way this affects his NHL draft order. Did Vityaz just pick random CHL top prospects to throw picks away on or have they actually spoken to any of these players prior to drafting them?
I'd assume they just picked him because they didn't have a lot of players from their own system to protect and knew he was talented.
Of their five selections, only two were from their system.
The other three were all from North America (Huberdeau, Dumba, and McNeill) and were probably selected because they will retain their rights until they are 28, so if the NHL locks out or something and they want to play in the KHL, they'd play for Vityaz or Vityaz would receive something in return for them in a trade.

The KHL draft is not like the NHL draft though in the sense that if a team selects high in the draft, they are going to have the best player available to select.
Like I said before, teams protect players from their systems, so it's really just picking from a.) Russian players from schools that are affiliated with a KHL team which that team doesn't protect (if they aren't protected, they most likely aren't anything special), b.) Russian players from unaffiliated schools (like Gazovik Tyumen, a team that wants to be in the KHL but doesn't have a suitable arena; a bunch of their players were selected today), or c.) non-Russian players.
So basically, it's slim pickings if you don't have good protected players and teams are willing to select players even if they are unlikely to come over.

I don't really understand why it even exists in it's current form; it's probably just for publicity and to give North American people who don't understand how it works another reason to make fun of the league.
Some teams don't even seem to take it seriously, so I'm pretty sure it will not have any effect on where he is selected in the NHL draft.
 
Unless there was actually contact between Huberdeau and someone from Vityaz then there is absolutely no way this affects his NHL draft order. Did Vityaz just pick random CHL top prospects to throw picks away on or have they actually spoken to any of these players prior to drafting them?

The only ones in the Vityaz organization that are somewhat familiar with North American major junior hockey are Nazarov and Zhamnov, respectively head coach and GM. Unless Vityaz somehow had a dedicated North American scout, in which case anything is possible.

More likely is the possibility of video scouting.
 
I don't see it happening but if Huberdeau get's passed the Oilers, the Avs and the Panthers... Lou will be sprinting to the podium to select this kid.
 
Exactly. If the Avs pass, Florida doesn't.

At the end of the day, we'll have one of Larsson, Huberdeau, Landeskog or Couturier. Murphy might be possible at #4 but if he's high on Lou's list, I can see him trading down with Ottawa.
 

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