Player Discussion Jonas Brodin

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Can we get an update on Brodin's sucking after he plays against Sequin/Sharp for most shifts last night?

Looked real tragic, right?

I made a point to ignore the puck and watch Brodin as much as possible last night. He looked great. He jumped into the rush a couple of times and looked pretty threatening, just the play didn't work out for whatever reason. Was reminded again on those plays what a good skater he is.
He is definitely playing bigger this year.

Reilly also has a nice pair of wheels. If he ever gets into the lineup in place of Prosser we are going to have one hell of a great skating team.

Dumba can skate, but he really needs to do some on basic defensive skating technique. His backwards crossovers and transitions are mediocre, and he also puck watches like crazy, like most offensive Dmen. On the Coyle/ Benn hit Benn made a move to the inside then walked around him when Dumba bit hard on the move. It happens, and Benn is a great player, but you could see Dumba being mesmerized by the puck rather than just staying in front of him.

He had a great first period just now as well. Active. He was even behind the net once, and not ours!

 

[Minnesota]

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Terrible news for an already terrible team.

 

[Fremitus Borealis]

Hmm.... so will this be the excuse to keep Mike Yeo when they lose 4 of the next 5 (or more)?

Oh well. Speedy recovery to Brodin. At the very least, hope he doesn't rush back and then play as a shadow of his normal self. Not that the Wild do that, or anything...

 

[BigT2002]

Can you trade an injured player for an injured player

 

[Avder]

Everything just keeps getting worse.

 

[57special]

That's the thing. We were really lucky this year in regard to injuries. What if we get a string of them now?

OTOH, now we get to see a sneak preview of life without Brodin, and see how it feels. Hopefully Yeo doesn't have Suter playing over 30 min./night, but i'm not holding my breath.

 

[Bruce Granville]

I think he broke his foot by himself because he doesn't want to get traded to Edmonton.

 

[keppel146]

Let's tank

 

[DigitalBoldy]

That's the thing. We were really lucky this year in regard to injuries. What if we get a string of them now?

OTOH, now we get to see a sneak preview of life without Brodin, and see how it feels. Hopefully Yeo doesn't have Suter playing over 30 min./night, but i'm not holding my breath.

Especially if he keeps playing like last game

Brodin thing is different though. If he were traded then we'd have something to add to a different area of the team. This is life without Brodin and what he would return in a trade.

 

[57special]

Especially if he keeps playing like last game

Brodin thing is different though. If he were traded then we'd have something to add to a different area of the team. This is life without Brodin and what he would return in a trade.

Yes, but it will give us a pretty clear idea of what we have to replace Brodin on the backend.we keep saying we have defensive depth...bout time it's proved.

 

[TaLoN]

This made me so exited... yay... more Prosser icetime.

 

[Taylor26]

more Dumba time which is good in sense? a double edge sword we want to shelter dumba but unleash him sometimes? whatever a 7th overall pick should pick up the slack even though he is 21 I think and that's young for a d man. he has the rest of the year I guess on the top 4

 

[theButton]

Is there no Brodin player thread? Anyway I thought he looked good in his first game back last night and not just because he got a couple shots off. Not bad for a young player considering the long layoff and all the trade talk. Sure hope we don't trade him.

 

[57special]

Yeah, having Brodin back was great. He got lots of time, also, considering it was first day back after a month.
He and Reilly seemed to play well together, or at least, nothing bad or awkward stuck out. Reilly continues to impress, in a low key way. There is something to be said for waiting till a player is 22 before playing him in the NHL. Reilly isn't getting abused physically, like Brodin and Spurgeon did when they were younger.

Brodin's ability to play either side well is a bonus.

As I said in the GDT, I think Suter and Spurgeon have been a little bit off defensively...especially Suter. Wearing down?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Yeah, having Brodin back was great. He got lots of time, also, considering it was first day back after a month.
He and Reilly seemed to play well together, or at least, nothing bad or awkward stuck out. Reilly continues to impress, in a low key way. There is something to be said for waiting till a player is 22 before playing him in the NHL. Reilly isn't getting abused physically, like Brodin and Spurgeon did when they were younger.

Brodin's ability to play either side well is a bonus.

As I said in the GDT, I think Suter and Spurgeon have been a little bit off defensively...especially Suter. Wearing down?

Shouldn't be. He's been in the 26-27 minute range for the last 10 games, with I think only 1 30+ game in that span.

 

[MNNumbers]

Yeah, having Brodin back was great. He got lots of time, also, considering it was first day back after a month.
He and Reilly seemed to play well together, or at least, nothing bad or awkward stuck out. Reilly continues to impress, in a low key way. There is something to be said for waiting till a player is 22 before playing him in the NHL. Reilly isn't getting abused physically, like Brodin and Spurgeon did when they were younger.

Brodin's ability to play either side well is a bonus.

As I said in the GDT, I think Suter and Spurgeon have been a little bit off defensively...especially Suter. Wearing down?

I have been trying to pay attention to TOI since the coaching change, and for the defensemen, it's definitely leveling out. Last night (these are 5v5 first, then PP, then total) ranked by 5v5 ice time.

Suter 21:27, 4:49, 26:16
Scandella 20:29, 0:00, 20:29
Spurgeon 19:51, 0:00, 19:51
Brodin 19:34, 0:00, 19:34
Dumba 15:16, 4:34, 19:50
Reilly 9:53, 1:56, 11:49

I think that's still too much Suter on the PP, but at least Dumba is out there. The even strength.... I like that pretty well.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Yeah, having Brodin back was great. He got lots of time, also, considering it was first day back after a month.
He and Reilly seemed to play well together, or at least, nothing bad or awkward stuck out. Reilly continues to impress, in a low key way. There is something to be said for waiting till a player is 22 before playing him in the NHL. Reilly isn't getting abused physically, like Brodin and Spurgeon did when they were younger.

Brodin's ability to play either side well is a bonus.

As I said in the GDT, I think Suter and Spurgeon have been a little bit off defensively...especially Suter. Wearing down?

Suter and Spurgeon have just never meshed as well as I would like.

They both can be a bit passive defensively, which some lines can take advantage off. Spurgeon was always his best with Scandella, who gave Spurgeon a more agressive, physical partner and also heavy shot option.

Suter and Spurgeon are too similar in many regards.

 

[Granlund 64]

Hope to see him unleash that shot more.

 

[57special]

Suter and Spurgeon have just never meshed as well as I would like.

They both can be a bit passive defensively, which some lines can take advantage off. Spurgeon was always his best with Scandella, who gave Spurgeon a more agressive, physical partner and also heavy shot option.

Suter and Spurgeon are too similar in many regards.

It seems they can't decide who will be the puck carrier in their own zone sometimes, and who will take the man. When it's Spurgeon/Scandella, Spurgeon was the puck carrier, for the most part, Scandella the hammer.

If Brodin or Scandella are your worst PMD, you are in very good shape.

I've always thought Brodin had a decent or better shot, but if he doesn't use it then who will know( same could be said for Folin, but his feet aren't good enough to get him in position). I definitely would be fine with him on a PPunit in a vacuum, but on this team it doesn't make sense. Hell, Suter doesn't make a lot of sense.

Brodin's shot completely beat the goalie, but not the post.

It sure is nice not having to watch Prosser out there.

 

[Jarick]

Seeing those ice times, I wish Reilly was on the #1 unit over Suter. Much better QB, much more creative, much better shot. Only argument against would be ability to carry the puck up ice and that's only from not seeing Reilly in that position enough.

I still think that if Brodin can bring back a top six center you make that move. Brodin in the #5 is a nice luxury, but not when you are missing a big piece up front. And by all accounts Olofsson should be able to fill that exact role.

 

[57special]

Granlund is a top 6C. Would you trade Granlund, or a Granlund equivalent, for Brodin? I wouldn't. I would consider trading Brodin, or any of our Dmen( Reilly excepted because he has little trade value, Suter because NMC) for a young top 6 C with legitimate #1upside.

Last year, we would have been all over ourselves sending Brodin+ for Turris. Doesn't look so good now.

If our team is built around an excellent D, which also provides offense, then let's go that way rather than force a trade.

Reilly has looked good. They are very young, but it would be interesting to see DumBA and he and the PP together, especially since Suter appears to be freezing out Dumba ( a la Wally Sczerbiak).

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Granlund is a top 6C. Would you trade Granlund, or a Granlund equivalent, for Brodin? I wouldn't. I would consider trading Brodin, or any of our Dmen( Reilly excepted because he has little trade value, Suter because NMC) for a young top 6 C with legitimate #1upside.

Last year, we would have been all over ourselves sending Brodin+ for Turris. Doesn't look so good now.

If our team is built around an excellent D, which also provides offense, then let's go that way rather than force a trade.

Reilly has looked good. They are very young, but it would be interesting to see DumBA and he and the PP together, especially since Suter appears to be freezing out Dumba ( a la Wally Sczerbiak).

Where does this come from?

 

[MNNumbers]

Granlund is a top 6C. Would you trade Granlund, or a Granlund equivalent, for Brodin? I wouldn't. I would consider trading Brodin, or any of our Dmen( Reilly excepted because he has little trade value, Suter because NMC) for a young top 6 C with legitimate #1upside.

Last year, we would have been all over ourselves sending Brodin+ for Turris. Doesn't look so good now.

If our team is built around an excellent D, which also provides offense, then let's go that way rather than force a trade.

Reilly has looked good. They are very young, but it would be interesting to see DumBA and he and the PP together, especially since Suter appears to be freezing out Dumba ( a la Wally Sczerbiak).

If Suter is freezing out Dumba, then that is Torch's thing to fix. Call Suter into the office, show him the film, and say "This really looks like you have an issue with Dumba. Would you like to tell me about it? Because in this situation, the right play is to pass to Dumba." Next step? "If you can't pass to Dumba, then I think I am going to try Reilly in your spot. No player is bigger than the team here."

 

[theButton]

...Reilly excepted because he has little trade value...

What makes you say this? Three months ago I would have agreed but based on his play thus far I think his value has risen quite a bit.

..If our team is built around an excellent D, which also provides offense, then let's go that way rather than force a trade...

Couldn't agree more. If someone wants to throw a true #1C our way I'd listen but otherwise I like our makeup right now.