In Memoriam Johnny Gaudreau & Matthew Gaudreau killed by drunk driver while cycling (MOD WARNING. No Flaming, Trolling, or Politics.)

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I like how the English soccer leagues changed from a moment of silence to a moment of applause where everyone just cheers really loudly. Also gets rid of the chance of idiots yelling stupid shit because they know that everyone can hear them.

I feel like a moment of silence fits when someone dies tragically like Gaudreau brothers, but a moment of applause is when a legend dies in old age like Gordie Howe.
 

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I feel like a moment of silence fits when someone dies tragically like Gaudreau brothers, but a moment of applause is when a legend dies in old age like Gordie Howe.
I get your point, but maybe a happy medium would work. A moment of silence to mourn, then a moment of cheering to celebrate their life.
 

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I like how the English soccer leagues changed from a moment of silence to a moment of applause where everyone just cheers really loudly. Also gets rid of the chance of idiots yelling stupid shit because they know that everyone can hear them.
I'm pretty sure that's like 90% of the reason they did it.
 
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Also gets rid of the chance of idiots yelling stupid shit because they know that everyone can hear them.
Why can’t people (everyone) shut up?

My FB memories gave me a clip I shit at a concert a decade ago. The band was playing a mini acoustic set, and extended one piece ent dropping it all the way down and turning off the PA. And people were just whooping and shouting and all manner of making themselves heard during the quiet.
 

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Why can’t people (everyone) shut up?

My FB memories gave me a clip I shit at a concert a decade ago. The band was playing a mini acoustic set, and extended one piece ent dropping it all the way down and turning off the PA. And people were just whooping and shouting and all manner of making themselves heard during the quiet.
I think I'm on the side of the people shouting 🤣
 

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I feel like a moment of silence fits when someone dies tragically like Gaudreau brothers, but a moment of applause is when a legend dies in old age like Gordie Howe.

I am more old school when it comes to mourning. We have this "Celebration of Life" mentality where we can't act sad or even call things a funeral anymore. I don't think there is anything wrong with mourning, and we don't do that enough. We have this social media mentality that everything has to look okay. It is fine to be sad and show reverence when someone dies. I'd want people to be sad at my funeral. That would mean something.
 

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This may be unpopular to say, but I do feel for the driver, Sean Higgins, as well. Mostly because he has a wife and two girls. In before the "but it was his choice" posts come in. Oh yeah, it was, and he will live with that for the remainder of his life and it will likely haunt him. And this looks by all accounts to be his fault 100% and despite it not being tested in court yet he has admitted to having 5 or 6 beers. Not good, we all know that, and his actions caused so much anguish. But I think we shouldn't forget that the anguish is also what his wife and two daughters will have. Whether he deserves it or not, whatever time he spends in jail is time he will miss out on his children growing up and you can't get that back. Just a tragedy all around, obviously with the worst hand being dealt to the Gaudreau family.
 

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This may be unpopular to say, but I do feel for the driver, Sean Higgins, as well. Mostly because he has a wife and two girls. In before the "but it was his choice" posts come in. Oh yeah, it was, and he will live with that for the remainder of his life and it will likely haunt him. And this looks by all accounts to be his fault 100% and despite it not being tested in court yet he has admitted to having 5 or 6 beers. Not good, we all know that, and his actions caused so much anguish. But I think we shouldn't forget that the anguish is also what his wife and two daughters will have. Whether he deserves it or not, whatever time he spends in jail is time he will miss out on his children growing up and you can't get that back. Just a tragedy all around, obviously with the worst hand being dealt to the Gaudreau family.

I feel for his family, but not him. Murderers don't get my sympathy.
 

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This may be unpopular to say, but I do feel for the driver, Sean Higgins, as well. Mostly because he has a wife and two girls. In before the "but it was his choice" posts come in. Oh yeah, it was, and he will live with that for the remainder of his life and it will likely haunt him. And this looks by all accounts to be his fault 100% and despite it not being tested in court yet he has admitted to having 5 or 6 beers. Not good, we all know that, and his actions caused so much anguish. But I think we shouldn't forget that the anguish is also what his wife and two daughters will have. Whether he deserves it or not, whatever time he spends in jail is time he will miss out on his children growing up and you can't get that back. Just a tragedy all around, obviously with the worst hand being dealt to the Gaudreau family.
I get having sympathy for someone who didn't act in outright malice. But his alleged actions resulted in the deaths of two people.

That's the risk everyone takes when they drive recklessly. That's the risk everyone takes when they drink and drive. Now, we must recognize that he is innocent until proven guilty. And it's always possible that some of the alleged behavior may not be factual (or at least provable). But that doesn't negate the fact that people should not drink and drive or drive recklessly. It may work out 99% of the time, but the one time it doesn't is often catastrophic.
 

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I get having sympathy for someone who didn't act in outright malice. But his alleged actions resulted in the deaths of two people.

That's the risk everyone takes when they drive recklessly. That's the risk everyone takes when they drink and drive. Now, we must recognize that he is innocent until proven guilty. And it's always possible that some of the alleged behavior may not be factual (or at least provable). But that doesn't negate the fact that people should not drink and drive or drive recklessly. It may work out 99% of the time, but the one time it doesn't is often catastrophic.

Oh I agree, the guy was stupid for drinking as much as he did (apparently he admitted to 5 or 6 beers before getting behind the wheel). Of all the things we know these days there is zero reason for doing this. I can see if he is driving on that rural road and the bikes sort of pop out of nowhere and it is just a true accident. But can he honestly say he was 100% aware and in tip top shape while he was driving? My guess is this is what his lawyers are going to try and argue in his favour for, if I were to take a guess with how the trial will unfold. I am sure he wishes he could take it back, but man that is just some bad judgment.
 

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Oh I agree, the guy was stupid for drinking as much as he did (apparently he admitted to 5 or 6 beers before getting behind the wheel).
He admitted to having a beer before getting behind the wheel. Another 5 or 6 while he was behind it.
 

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I feel for his family, but not him. Murderers don't get my sympathy.
Yeah zero sympathy. My hope is that when Higgins eventually arrives at his permanent home there will be a fellow inmate looking for some notoriety. And believe me, having worked in parallel with the corrections system, I know there will be guys on his block licking their chops at the opportunity.
 

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