Should is an aspirational word that everyone agrees with.
For me, personally, should isn’t enough to make me ride my bicycle on the roads regularly.
Exactly this.
"you shouldn't ride a bike because you can be mowed down by a drunk driver" is a piss poor excuse for a toxic traffic culture.
ps. I hate cyclists with a vengeance but I'm here to defend them when they've actually been civil.
Do we even know if it was dark? Didn't this happen at around 8 PM? 8 PM in late August in NJ isn't that dark out yet, right?
Unless you can make it happen and enforce it, "shoulds" really don't mean much of anything.You completely miss the point. It has nothing to do about inviting.
A girls choice of clothes to wear should have zero bearing on her likelihood of getting raped by a shitty member of society
Just like the Gaudreau brothers' choice of lawfully done physical activity should have zero bearing on the likelihood of getting killed by a shitty member of society.
As much as you want to deny it, bringing it up in any capacity immediately places some of the blame on the victim.
Glad to see HF is focused on the important things like whether they should have been riding their bikes lol
Stupidity of this place never ceases to amaze
too harsh. especially if you consider canada's crazy dui laws.Too lenient. First DUI and you shouldnt be allowed to drive again
Sadly enough I expected this topic to come up when I read the details about the news.Glad to see HF is focused on the important things like whether they should have been riding their bikes lol
Stupidity of this place never ceases to amaze
I don't know if this was already posted, but the entire police report is here:
NJ man charged in deaths of NHL star and brother who were in town for family wedding
The 43-year-old New Jersey man charged with vehicular homicide in the deaths of National Hockey League star Johnny Gaudreau and his younger brother, Matthew, allegedly caused the crash because he had been, and still was, drinking, and that made him both reckless and impatient, according to a...www.nbcnewyork.com
This POS was drinking WHILE driving after already consuming alcohol elsewhere. He reportedly approached the two slowed-down vehicles at a "high rate of speed" and then apparently gunned it to the right of them after they moved over to avoid the cyclists.
He also has a prior DWI from 2005.
not to mention that overtaking the car in front of you on the right side is illegal AFIt has been reported that he was drunk.
But who cares?
If you're reckless enough to pass somebody on the right shoulder and in the process of doing so you mow down and kill 2 people, the penalties should be just as severe for you whether you're stone cold sober or blew a 0.3% BAC. You do not belong in society either way.
Should be the death penalty.I don't know if this was already posted, but the entire police report is here:
NJ man charged in deaths of NHL star and brother who were in town for family wedding
The 43-year-old New Jersey man charged with vehicular homicide in the deaths of National Hockey League star Johnny Gaudreau and his younger brother, Matthew, allegedly caused the crash because he had been, and still was, drinking, and that made him both reckless and impatient, according to a...www.nbcnewyork.com
This POS was drinking WHILE driving after already consuming alcohol elsewhere. He reportedly approached the two slowed-down vehicles at a "high rate of speed" and then apparently gunned it to the right of them after they moved over to avoid the cyclists.
He also has a prior DWI from 2005.