Johnny Gaudreau: 2015/16 expectations?

Ivan13 · Oct 12, 2015

WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
I think he still might be a year from art ross contention, but its hard to bet against a guy who just gets better and better.

He's the best player from the 2011 draft for my money.

2nd behind Landeskog.

Johnnybegood13 · Oct 12, 2015

Ivan13 said:
2nd behind Landeskog.

I'm a big fan of Landeskog but I wouldn't trade Gaudreau for him. Actually due to ages/contracts I really can't think of too many players I would trade Johnny for straight up but I'm biased as hell. :neener:

JPeeper · Oct 12, 2015

If the Flames top line stays healthy all year Johnny Hockey will easily be a PPG player.

Last year he finished with 64 points and only had 1 in his first 10 (and was scratched early on). Basically had 63 points in 70 games as a rookie.

Gaudreau and Monahan are a great and dynamic tandem. Gaudreau has insane vision and Monahan has an elite shot. Both will be PPG players for the next decade if they find a good replacement when Hudler inevitably leaves.

Gaudreau with around 24 goals, 55 assists this year.

JFHockey · Oct 12, 2015

Volica said:
They take back the Calder they gave to Ekblad. They retire 13 across the league. Jagr says he'll lose 70 pounds just to get to Johnny size.

Predictions = made.

In five years from now, the average weight of an NHLer will be 162 lbs.

vannuckles · Oct 12, 2015

GeeoffBrown said:
Not impossible for him to in the Art Ross. He has rare talent.

wow....................The kid is one big hit away from Calgary not making the playoffs.

King In The North · Oct 12, 2015

vannuckles said:
wow....................The kid is one big hit away from Calgary not making the playoffs.

Yeah let's keep waiting on that...looked great at least against the Nucks.

Zirakzigil · Oct 12, 2015

vannuckles said:
wow....................The kid is one big hit away from Calgary not making the playoffs.

You could say that about any player. It's not like being bigger makes you immune from concussions.

Pizza the Hutt · Oct 12, 2015

vannuckles said:
wow....................The kid is one big hit away from Calgary not making the playoffs.

Keep dreaming Canucks fan, keep dreaming.

And while were on the subject - why are you guys so obsessed with Gaudreau getting injured? It's rather unbecoming.

OvermanKingGainer · Oct 12, 2015

vannuckles said:
wow....................The kid is one big hit away from Calgary not making the playoffs.

vannuckles · Oct 12, 2015

You guys are funny. The Art Ross comment after 2 games, is rich. It was kind of hard for me not to laugh. My bad.

Bixby Snyder · Oct 12, 2015

Ivan13 said:
2nd behind Landeskog.

1. Gaudreau
2. Landeskog
3. RNH

Pi · Oct 12, 2015

JPeeper said:
If the Flames top line stays healthy all year Johnny Hockey will easily be a PPG player.

Last year he finished with 64 points and only had 1 in his first 10 (and was scratched early on). Basically had 63 points in 70 games as a rookie.

Gaudreau and Monahan are a great and dynamic tandem. Gaudreau has insane vision and Monahan has an elite shot. Both will be PPG players for the next decade if they find a good replacement when Hudler inevitably leaves.

Gaudreau with around 24 goals, 55 assists this year.

You can't just remove games when he isn't good and say "basically 63 in 70 games."

He'll be good but there is very little chance he is a PPG player. There just aren't that many in the league and Gaudreau isn't that good to be one this early in his career.

Bourdon · Oct 12, 2015

Pizza the Hutt said:
Keep dreaming Canucks fan, keep dreaming.

And while were on the subject - why are you guys so obsessed with Gaudreau getting injured? It's rather unbecoming.

Don't paint us with the same brush, it's rather unbecoming.

I mean, if St. Louis can win the Art Ross, why can't Gaudreau? Probably not this year, but certainly some day. That said, St. Louis was a compact physical specimen, but Gaudreau has an elusiveness to his skating that allows him to roll off contact. Sure, he'll never be a board player, but I don't think he needs to be one to have success. Just line him up with the right players.

He does need to work on building more strength and shooting more.

WhiskeyYerTheDevils · Oct 12, 2015

Pi said:
You can't just remove games when he isn't good and say "basically 63 in 70 games."

He'll be good but there is very little chance he is a PPG player. There just aren't that many in the league and Gaudreau isn't that good to be one this early in his career.

He's got 77 points in his last 89 gp, playing half of last year with 3rd liners as a rookie. He's shown a history of progressing in his career at advanced rates, and looks significantly better this year already.

There is a fairly good chance he is a PPG player this season IMO.

herashak · Oct 12, 2015

Pi said:
You can't just remove games when he isn't good and say "basically 63 in 70 games."

He'll be good but there is very little chance he is a PPG player. There just aren't that many in the league and Gaudreau isn't that good to be one this early in his career.

Basically his first 10 games of pro hockey. Is mcdavid allowed some time to get used to pro hockey?

startainfection* · Oct 12, 2015

CharasInCharge said:
thats not how math works

Well In that case 30 goals 40 assists 100 points

vannuckles · Oct 12, 2015

Pi said:
You can't just remove games when he isn't good and say "basically 63 in 70 games."

He'll be good but there is very little chance he is a PPG player. There just aren't that many in the league and Gaudreau isn't that good to be one this early in his career.

Bourdon said:
Don't paint us with the same brush, it's rather unbecoming.

I mean, if St. Louis can win the Art Ross, why can't Gaudreau? Probably not this year, but certainly some day. That said, St. Louis was a compact physical specimen, but Gaudreau has an elusiveness to his skating that allows him to roll off contact. Sure, he'll never be a board player, but I don't think he needs to be one to have success. Just line him up with the right players.

He does need to work on building more strength and shooting more.

Please point me to where I stated I wanted to see him injured.....as far as his ability to take the Art Ross, perhaps you should re-read the title. I have not once stated that he could never do it, just not this season.

Sorry but against company such as Stamkos, Crosby, Ovie, etc, I find it damn near impossible for him to take it.

As far as his durability goes, it is yet to be seen. He may be able to slip checks right now, but his size does dictate he will probably get murdered from a big hit. His frame is tiny. You can not even say he is similar to Martin St. Louis, that guy is an anomaly (and 30 lbs heavier).

Johnnybegood13 · Oct 12, 2015

vannuckles said:
As far as his durability goes, it is yet to be seen. He may be able to slip checks right now, but his size does dictate he will probably get murdered from a big hit. His frame is tiny. You can not even say he is similar to Martin St. Louis, that guy is an anomaly (and 30 lbs heavier).

People have been saying the same thing since he was 12. There was an other guy who they said the same things about...Wayne something I think.

vannuckles · Oct 12, 2015

Johnnybegood13 said:
People have been saying the same thing since he was 12. There was an other guy who they said the same things about...Wayne something I think.

Regardless as to what you say about his durability, it has yet to be seen.

HA! first the Art Ross talk, now Gretzky comparisons.... This can not get any better.

Johnnybegood13 · Oct 12, 2015

vannuckles said:
Regardless as to what you say about his durability, it has yet to be seen.

HA! first the Art Ross talk, now Gretzky comparisons.... This can not get any better.

I'm comparing durability not play. He has been very durable, he's been hit,slashed and hacked since his USHL/college days, he's always been the star and gets the attention but ......no games missed the last 5 years.

joshkitty · Oct 12, 2015

Ivan13 said:
2nd behind Landeskog.

Lol, Gaudreau > Landeskog ainec

Ainec · Oct 12, 2015

Johnny Gretzky

Pizza the Hutt · Oct 12, 2015

vannuckles said:
Please point me to where I stated I wanted to see him injured.....as far as his ability to take the Art Ross, perhaps you should re-read the title. I have not once stated that he could never do it, just not this season.

Sorry but against company such as Stamkos, Crosby, Ovie, etc, I find it damn near impossible for him to take it.

As far as his durability goes, it is yet to be seen. He may be able to slip checks right now, but his size does dictate he will probably get murdered from a big hit. His frame is tiny. You can not even say he is similar to Martin St. Louis, that guy is an anomaly (and 30 lbs heavier).

This is the evolution of your camp's thinking, and by that I mean many, but not all, Canucks fans:

-Gaudreau won't be able to make the team, he's too small.
-Gaudreau won't be able to compete against "real" NHL'ers, he's too small.
-Gaudreau won't be able to compete against proper NHL D-men, he's too small.
-Now that proper NHL D-men have played against Gaudreau, he won't be able to compete; he's too small.
- Inevitably, Gaudreau will suffer a career-ending injury.

It's been quite a thing to behold, really.

Skobel24 · Oct 12, 2015

Landeskog > Gaudreau

Regardless, I see Johnny being around 70 points this year.

MilanKraft* · Oct 12, 2015

Ivan13 said:
2nd behind Landeskog.

Ryan Strome will be better than them all and possibly bunch of other guys...

Kucherov..

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