Confirmed with Link: John Tortorella Has Been Fired and the subsequent coaching search

[silverfish]

Have a few inside sources, hearing the Rangers are specifically targeting these guys:

Gordon Bombay
John Biebe
Reg Dunlop

 

[Drewbackatu*]

Ruff has lost his players too many times. Post lockout his teams have been loaded with skill and they vanish. The 2007 CF was one of the worst coaching jobs I ever saw. He sat his guys back and let Ottawa dictate play (sound familiar).

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Stafford all disappeared every other year under him. No thanks.

On the money 100%. They had the best team in 07 and were lucky to beat us in that playoff!

 

[The Gloaming]

Why would Columbus send him back after they fleeced the rangers with that trade?

Sather should have traded gaborik that offseason when his value was high, not got desperate and done it mid season.

Brassard scored more than Gaborik this year.

And that's not including Moore, who played better than DZ, and Dorsett.

 

[nevesis]

Kurt Russell for coach?

 

[RangerLifer]

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/339789428505575424

That was the feeling I got when I heard him say that. This team would rather lose Torts than Lundqvist, understandably.

 

[RangerGuru]

For those of you angry at Sather...

He is a mastermind at trades. Imagine if the Rangers had given up Stepan or McDonagh in the Nash deal? Remember how McDonagh came here? The Gomez deal? Remember the immediate boost and the playoff performance of Brassard?

FA is the problem. It's too tempting for him to make a splash in FA. Drury Redden Gomez Richards etc, these problems are all FA

Sather is also almost as good getting rid of awful contracts as he is dishing them out

IMO Sather is a solid GM moving forward if he restarins himself in plugging holes with big contract guys.

 

[Kreider Typical]

Have a few inside sources, hearing the Rangers are specifically targeting these guys:

Gordon Bombay
John Biebe
Reg Dunlop

of these 3 my money would probably be on dunlop

 

[Greg02]

As much as I hated the Gaborik trade at the time, you can't argue with the results so far.

And let's be honest, if Gaborik had been traded when his value was high (last offseason) we all would have been apoplectic.

 

[RangerBoy]

I'm surprised.

What was the writing on the wall to you?

We talked about it a few weeks ago. Torts talking about the personnel decisions from the summer. He was criticizing the front office. He said the Nash trade was a lateral trade. Chris Kreider not playing. They told him to respect the media. Torts and Sam Rosen. Sather had to get involved in that. The power play is a mess.

Maybe the players had enough of him. It sounds like the players had enough of him.

Maybe Avery wasn't wrong. He is best friends with Henrik.

 

[egelband]

I loved Torts, but this was a move that HAD to be made. So glad it happened, now. Now we can move forward!!

i feel the same way. the guy bled ranger blue and really made a difference. but for some reason he couldnt get goals out of a very-very-very skilled group. in fact, when skilled players arrived at the trade deadline and started scoring, he made them stop scoring. that was amazing and probably the last straw.

i see no reason, btw, to get rid of boyle. the guy is an excellent fourth line center and occasional special teamer. and loves being a ranger.

 

[nevesis]

Brassard scored more than Gaborik this year.

Same amount of goals, Brassard had TWO more assists than Gaborik total.

 

[Thirty One]

Kurt Russell for coach?

Didn't care much for Miracle. Who played the Rangers coach on Miracle, Alaska?

 

[Kokoschka]

For those of you angry at Sather...

He is a mastermind at trades. Imagine if the Rangers had given up Stepan or McDonagh in the Nash deal? Remember how McDonagh came here? The Gomez deal? Remember the immediate boost and the playoff performance of Brassard?

FA is the problem. It's too tempting for him to make a splash in FA. Drury Redden Gomez Richards etc, these problems are all FA

Sather is also almost as good getting rid of awful contracts as he is dishing them out

IMO Sather is a solid GM moving forward if he restarins himself in plugging holes with big contract guys.

The big issue however is, his 10+ years of being the Ranger GM have amounted to:

 

[Kreider Typical]

As much as I hated the Gaborik trade at the time, you can't argue with the results so far.

And let's be honest, if Gaborik had been traded when his value was high (last offseason) we all would have been apoplectic.

you're forgetting his injury boss

 

[slipknottin]

Brassard scored more than Gaborik this year.

And that's not including Moore, who played better than DZ, and Dorsett.

Brassard is a career 3rd liner. Yes he had a little streak going, but he is at best a 15/30 guy. Dorsett is a bum. Moore is the only one of the three with upside and potential to be special.

 

[JD123]

You said it.

This infuriates me.

NEVER a plan.

Why would the genius Glen Sather need a plan? Takes to much work and effort. He will never be fired anyway so lets just bring on the next coach and the next coach and the next coach.....

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Dont be fooled for one second into thinking this was strictly an on-ice decision. Sather is a cunning snake of a GM who has used coaches as shields for 13 years now.

Sather can say that Brad Richards was Torts' idea and he has to clean up that mess now to the tune of a $25M check from Uncle Jimmy. Trouble with the media? All Torts' fault, a new coach will clean that up. Regressing from last year? Not my roster, it was Torts' system.

If Dolan wasnt a ****ing idiot, he'd ask Sather for a comprehensive plan going forward and Sather would have jack**** to show him.

My frustration goes well beyond Tortorella. This episode is on repeat. No plan - just another scapegoat.

 

[itsPLkielbasa]

I can't wait to see what this team can do under a new system. This will be one long summer. Can't wait to see this team next year!

 

[Greg02]

We talked about it a few weeks ago. Torts talking about the personnel decisions from the summer. He was criticizing the front office. He said the Nash trade was a lateral trade. Chris Kreider not playing. They told him to respect the media. Torts and Sam Rosen. Sather had to get involved in that. The power play is a mess.

Maybe the players had enough of him. It sounds like the players had enough of him.

Maybe Avery wasn't wrong. He is best friends with Henrik.

OK, thanks for the info and perspective.

I missed the Torts criticizing the front office comments. I was certain that the Gaborik trade was indicative of Tortorella having the ear of the front office.

 

[MessierIsGod]

For those of you angry at Sather...

He is a mastermind at trades. Imagine if the Rangers had given up Stepan or McDonagh in the Nash deal? Remember how McDonagh came here? The Gomez deal? Remember the immediate boost and the playoff performance of Brassard?

FA is the problem. It's too tempting for him to make a splash in FA. Drury Redden Gomez Richards etc, these problems are all FA

Sather is also almost as good getting rid of awful contracts as he is dishing them out

IMO Sather is a solid GM moving forward if he restarins himself in plugging holes with big contract guys.

You left out one large responsibility of a GM - the draft. I can think of one Hugh Jessiman when Parise was sitting there for us. Al Montoya was in the top 10, no? He sure knows talent.

 

[Drewbackatu*]

A 171-115-29 record, and 4 playoff appearances with a berth in the Conference Finals would be a record a hell of a lot of coaches would be envious of. I am not a Torts fan, but I do believe he did a good job in his own way.

The person that should have been fired, and fired a long time ago, is Sather for giving out all the insane contracts.

Bingo; we have a winner! Rule of thumb: a GM gets 5 years and 3 coaches which means Sather shoulda been gone before the first lockout!
About Torts: he is the best coach this team has had in 20 yrs at minimum and the only coach who ever held players accountable.
He played and won with the hand he was dealt and the roster was and is beyond flawed!!

 

[Kokoschka]

Brassard is a career 3rd liner. Yes he had a little streak going, but he is at best a 15/30 guy. Dorsett is a bum. Moore is the only one of the three with upside and potential to be special.

I'm glad to have Brassard as my 3rd liner, then.

 

[toastbag]

Brassard is a career 3rd liner. Yes he had a little streak going, but he is at best a 15/30 guy. Dorsett is a bum. Moore is the only one of the three with upside and potential to be special.

Are you seriously saying Brassard doesn't have upside and potential to be special?

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

For those of you angry at Sather...

He is a mastermind at trades. Imagine if the Rangers had given up Stepan or McDonagh in the Nash deal? Remember how McDonagh came here? The Gomez deal? Remember the immediate boost and the playoff performance of Brassard?

FA is the problem. It's too tempting for him to make a splash in FA. Drury Redden Gomez Richards etc, these problems are all FA

Sather is also almost as good getting rid of awful contracts as he is dishing them out

IMO Sather is a solid GM moving forward if he restarins himself in plugging holes with big contract guys.

Were you around for the first 8-10 years of his tenure here?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Its 6.67. It is the AAV that counts not the total.

ok so 20m, either way that's dangerous for him