Player Discussion John Merrill: a.k.a. Joe Dirt, a.k.a. Letterkenny Extra Edition

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Even if he is it's not what we need.

bone fide top 4 LHD - Weber
Edmundson - Petry
Romanov - Chiarot
Kulak

Should be our defense. In which case Jon Merrill over Kulak brings not much to the table. Jon Merrill is another bargain bin move trying to fill a need with something cheap like the guy buying a bargain bin direct to dvd to fill a weekend after his girl friend left him.

Chiarot isn't healthy now. And when he is, there is no guarantee all our D will be.

If this move is to fill the top 4 LHD slot, it's a cheap solution to a big problem. If it's to upgrade Kulak for a 5th, I think it's good.

Let's see tomorrow if MB has addressed the LHD. This summer when MB brought in Edmundson to upgrade Kulak as the 2nd pair LD next to Petry, people said it didn't address the forward problems. Then we got Anderson and Toffoli. It has become clear Weber has declined and the Chiarot-Weber is not good enough. I know they weren't good enough last year either. But now that it's even worse, it should even be clear to MB that they're not. We'll see by tomorrow if that is so.
 
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Yes Detroit let go a d-man for an ahl player and a 5th pick in a real weak draft
I bet Detroit just got totally roasted in that trade.
Cmon man. He's just depth , he's signed at minimum and hes 30 , extra d-man type of trade. He's nothing special.
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Tell me about him.....how has he played in the last 10 games???

no BS answer, tell me the truth
 
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Tell me about him.....how has he played in the last 10 games???

no BS answer, tell me the truth
12 goals in 400 games in the nhl , 5 points this season
Was healthy scratch during vegas playoff runs

Ya totally a guy that will change the dynamic of this team.
The only positive thing about him is that he only cost 925k and he's ufa in 20 games.
Like Staal who's -5 since he's been with us. Did you also said the same thing about Staal?
 
So you’ve been watching Red Wing games all year??

How many Vegas games have you watched to give me a true analysis of this player?? I’m sure you’ve been watching plenty of midnight games on weekdays.

Funny he was picked up by Vegas, a team most here like to use as a launching pad of ridicule when comparing GM’s and then was signed by Yzerman which is self explanatory.

Besides what you’ve read you know nothing of this player, just stat watching a reckon.

Calm down, Marc
 
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Very good pick up.

Mete is an AHL dman
Kulak is waiver fodder
Ouellet is an AHLer
Leskinen belongs in Finland
Chariot is hurt

Regardless of needing a top4 puck moving dman, which i concur....one of you complainers please enlighten me on how or why we dont need a bottom pairing D. Needed it as much as the puck mover.

Bergevin got us Toffoli, Anderson, Allen, Edmundson, Perry, Staal, brought over Rom. Thats GM of the year work. Enough with the Berg hate. Cant change the whole damn team(despite being on the way to do just that really)
Constantly trading, and picking ufa's over and over, is a flawed strategy.....everyone knows this. Everyone except the clown Bergevin. We have had ZERO results with YOUR so called GM of the year.
9 years in, we have all tired of it...........rinse and repeat. Not saing this past off season wasn't his best, but that's also not saying much either.
The guy thinks he is a plumber, trying to fill the holes, one crack at a time...
 
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So you’ve been watching Red Wing games all year??

How many Vegas games have you watched to give me a true analysis of this player?? I’m sure you’ve been watching plenty of midnight games on weekdays.

Funny he was picked up by Vegas, a team most here like to use as a launching pad of ridicule when comparing GM’s and then was signed by Yzerman which is self explanatory.

Besides what you’ve read you know nothing of this player, just stat watching a reckon.

Guy was picked by Vegas because he was the best exposed by New Jersey, who didn't expose anything good because they didn't have much to protect.

In Vegas he did his bottom pairing job ok and because it was only ok, he's easily and I mean easily replaced.

Went to Detroit and looks good on a shit team. How many times have we seen a player on a shit team do well, go to another team and nothing comes of it ?

When you watched Detroit, mostly he was a player you never noticed, which is great for him given his type.

Yeah, this guy is another d that we don't need.

If this team didn't get an early jump by luck, this team wouldn't be in a playoff spot and we would be selling like we should.

But no, go on and tell me how Merrill is a great dman, because you've watched so many of his games. Reading into the hype of random Twitter users ?

You don't have to take my opinion on the guy as truth, but don't act like you're a fan of his and have watched him constantly. This guy is a stay-at-home dman that falls into the same type as the majority of our d.

He's likely better than Mete, might be better than Kulak, which would be a nice acquisition for a 5th, but ultimately he's not going to drive the offense. He's not going to help get the forwards going. Might help keep the goals down, so we'll only lose 4-0 instead of 5-0 next time against the Jets.

Habs need a puck mover and someone who can go on the pp and run it, even if it's a MAB type dman.

Imagine getting your house broken into and instead of putting metal.bars, or just slap a bunch of wood over it and hope for the best.
 
12 goals in 400 games in the nhl , 5 points this season
Was healthy scratch during vegas playoff runs

Ya totally a guy that will change the dynamic of this team.
The only positive thing about him is that he only cost 925k and he's ufa in 20 games.
So you haven’t been watching him.....it’s what I thought.

Why have pro scouts, just hire people to google shit....according to you it’s how you scout a player, everything you need to know about him is on HockeyDB

Btw, not saying it’s a good or bad trade as I know nothing of this player
 
So you haven’t been watching him.....it’s what I thought.

Why have pro scouts, just hire people to google shit....according to you it’s how you scout a player, everything you need to know about him is on HockeyDB

Btw, not saying it’s a good or bad trade as I know nothing of this player
Ya the pseudo pro scouts who went on Alzner when everybody on this board said day 1 his career was done
The same pro scouts that tried to get Bonino and Lucic
The same pro scouts that scouted Eric Staal and told us that he would fit in the pp and top 6.
Lulz okay man

Merill will play the spot that Chariot should be playing , 3rd pair d-man. Let's get more depth and non moving puck d-man with 0 speed , what could go wrong.

His 5 assists this season will surely make us a contender.

No need to be a pro scout to know that John Merril is just a depth d-man. You think a top 4 d-man would go for an ahl player and a shit pick?
 
4 years later, and we have no replacememt for Markov either......seems to be a very slow process.

Yes. It is a slow process when you are drafting bad for years.

Guhle, Harris, Struble, Norlinder, Fairbrother, Brook and maybe Fleury might be able some day to have an impact. That is why we are fed with guys like Chiarot, Edmundson, Kulak and Merrill for a while.
 
Ya the pseudo pro scouts who went on Alzner when everybody on this board said day 1 his career was done
The same pro scouts that tried to get Bonino and Lucic
The same pro scouts that scouted Eric Staal and told us that he would fit in the pp and top 6.
Lulz okay man

Merill will play the spot that Chariot should be playing , 3rd pair d-man. Let's get more depth and non moving puck d-man with 0 speed , what could go wrong.

His 5 assists this season will surely make us a contender.
Alzner......lol

But you miraculously forgot about Toffoli didn’t you.

Stat watcher.....still waiting on your analysis on ANY of Merrill’s games!!!!

I don’t know the player but you seem to know so much about him....waiting for your scout report
 
Yes. It is a slow process when you are drafting bad for years.

Guhle, Harris, Struble, Norlinder, Fairbrother, Brook and maybe Fleury might be able some day to have an impact. That is why we are fed with guys like Chiarot, Edmundson, Kulak and Merrill for a while.
When he threw Markov off the bus, he should have had a plan right then and there....................bad managing.
The guy makes Reggie Houle look smart at times...............but to wait 4 years to replace your best Dman, and still hasn't is a miserable failure. He had him, and the same summer traded him to Tampa for a perimeter pansy in Drouin.
This was the summer he should have been fired.
 
Alzner......lol

But you miraculously forgot about Toffoli didn’t you.

Stat watcher.....still waiting on your analysis on ANY of Merrill’s games!!!!

I don’t know the player but you seem to know so much about him....waiting for your scout report
Oh ya Toffoli is having the best season of his career , so what?
Funny you are not naming Josh Anderson since he's on pace for the same amount of points as Domi , but hey. Let's just focus on the positive and never on bad things.

We get it Toffoli has been really great , Anderson is a better hockey player overall. Still this team is 17-21 , and it's not by adding Staal and Merrill that this will make a difference

meanwhile Toronto gets Foligno
 
Agreed they need more help than this.

But this is more about solidifying the bottom pair. It will give Romanov someone with a lot of experience to help him. It's been Romanov and a variety of partners rotating in and out. This will help steady things there.

I don't know enough about Merrill to know how he plays. But I do think he's an upgrade over whoever Romanov has been partnered with recently.

Fairest post of the thread candidate right here.
 
Oh ya Toffoli is having the best season of his career , so what?
Funny you are not naming Josh Anderson since he's on pace for the same amount of points as Domi , but hey. Let's just focus on the positive and never on bad things.

We get it Toffoli has been really great , Anderson is a better hockey player overall. Still this team is 17-21 , and it's not by adding Staal and Merrill that this will make a difference

meanwhile Toronto gets Foligno
Waiting for Merril breakdown

I wanted Foligno.....that’s too bad

You used the worst UFA signing we’ve ever had
 
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Very good pick up.

Mete is an AHL dman
Kulak is waiver fodder
Ouellet is an AHLer
Leskinen belongs in Finland
Chariot is hurt

Regardless of needing a top4 puck moving dman, which i concur....one of you complainers please enlighten me on how or why we dont need a bottom pairing D. Needed it as much as the puck mover.

Bergevin got us Toffoli, Anderson, Allen, Edmundson, Perry, Staal, brought over Rom. Thats GM of the year work. Enough with the Berg hate. Cant change the whole damn team(despite being on the way to do just that really)

People have a hard time seperating 2012-18 from 2018-. I get it, I wanted him fired after the 2017-18 season too especially with the disgusting acquisitions before the 2017 playoffs but I was able to overlook it at the moment - even though you could make me a very convincing argument that he still should've been fired and I'd definitely listen - because of his relative success from 2013-2017 playoff wide with the exception of 2016 since price got injured early on.

But after 2017-18 when I wanted him fired, Molson gave him a new life and at that moment MB announced that the team would be persuing a retool in which they had a top 3 pick, overachieved and got a #15 pick but still got Caufield then wouldve had a top 10 pick if it weren't for the covid format. But at that moment you have to seperate your feelings for his work from before the retool was announced and purely judge the era of 2018-. In that time I don't think he's done a bad enough Job to be fired but I also don't think he should be resigned after next season.

Since the retool was announced MB:

Turned Galchenyuk into Domi (then later into Anderson), Selected KK, selected Romanov, selected Ylonen, traded Pacioretty for Tatar, Suzuki and a 2nd he then traded for multiple picks (one of which was used for Norlinder), selected Caufield, selected Guhle, selected other promising prospects, went full bargain Bergevin modes and fleeced teams on various small scale trades in that period (if that's worth anything), finally acquired an elite backup for basically a third, and signed Toffoli. He basically built the future core in the span of 2 and 1/3 years.
 
Leafs got Foligno and we got the corpse of Eric Staal and an improved #6 dman. Exciting times.

These boards were seething mad after Hall signed with Buffalo for 1 year and all we had done was gotten Edmundson and Allen. We then proceeded to get Anderson and Toffoli.

We'll see what MB proceeds to do now by 3pm tomorrow.
 
Seems like it’s a good trade, but not an impactful one. It’s very much a “who cares” kind of trade. Merrill is a dime a dozen player and we have actual, serious problems on the roster that won’t make a move like this significant.

nice trade that Bergie can put in his “W” column, but meaningless nonetheless.
 
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