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Player Discussion Joel Armia turnaround year?

jrom said:
Yup, instead of Dvorak, Armia and Hoffman we could have kept that 1st + sign Danault & Lek. Guess we had to reach a critical point of failure for that front office to be purged.
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Lek was traded by HuGo, and I don't think the Habs had the elements to make this guy produce. The Habs got value for him though, although it seems that HuGo got outplayed.

Leon Lucius Black said:
Lehkonen kept get short-term deals from Bergevin despite being the hardest worker on the team and one of the only players here who stepped up in the playoffs.

Armia had a couple good playoff games after a bunch of inconsistent seasons and that was enough for Bergevin to give him a big 4 year contract.

It was typical Bergevin playing hardball with certain player's contracts, then going and splurging on other contracts with no hesitation.
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Honestly, I don't know why the BargainBin resigned Armia. He was bad before and is worse now. I say bury him in the minors and let the contract run its course.
 
Isn't is strange on how a player like this can look so bad in the first few months and much better recently? I guess confidence is a big deal and I like how Armia is playing lately. He's performing to the level we though he could when we extended him.
 
Habs Halifax said:
Isn't is strange on how a player like this can look so bad in the first few months and much better recently? I guess confidence is a big deal and I like how Armia is playing lately. He's performing to the level we though he could when we extended him.
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No, no he's not. We gave him that contract because of how good he was in the playoffs but we didn't factor in the Corey Perry effect.
 
The Great Weal said:
No, no he's not. We gave him that contract because of how good he was in the playoffs but we didn't factor in the Corey Perry effect.
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Nah.. Armia's level of play over the last two seasons is not on par to the previous. He's been better of late and closer to what we seen in that playoffs and the seasons before that. It wasn't just about his playoffs IMO.
 
tnq said:
Will he have a new contract ?
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If he continues to play next year like the past 38 games with 12 goals and 18 points (pace of 27-13-40), he might fetch a first at the trade deadline 2025.

Then if he has a good playoff, someone will pay him around $4M for 3-4 years.
 
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The way he’s playing right now is showing why he got that contract in the first place.

He’s like a perfect third liner, good possession skills, good on the pk, with offensive skills when confident. If he really found his confidence back he will help the team and if we’re out of the playoffs again, could yield a decent return.

now let’s give Anderson the same treatment and see how he reacts.
 
Essenege said:
The way he’s playing right now is showing why he got that contract in the first place.

He’s like a perfect third liner, good possession skills, good on the pk, with offensive skills when confident. If he really found his confidence back he will help the team and if we’re out of the playoffs again, could yield a decent return.

now let’s give Anderson the same treatment and see how he reacts.
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He did nothing in the first half of the season, when it mattered. He woke up in the second half when it no longer matters. And coincidentally, his contract is ending...

If you know you're getting second half Armia for the next contract, then you definitely resign him. But it's definitely a risk. Unless he's taking 3m again for 2 years.
 
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RabbleMasterBlaster said:
He did nothing in the first half of the season, when it mattered. He woke up in the second half when it no longer matters. And coincidentally, his contract is ending...

If you know you're getting second half Armia for the next contract, then you definitely resign him. But it's definitely a risk. Unless he's taking 3m again for 2 years.
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I don’t want to resign him lol. I just want him to be good next year to either help us for a playoff push or, more likely, be a bait at the deadline.

His contract his ending next year so this will be an additional motivator. Although I think he didn’t have a motivation problem, more a confidence problem. He “looks” like he doesn’t care but that’s because he’s a Finn
 
RabbleMasterBlaster said:
He did nothing in the first half of the season, when it mattered. He woke up in the second half when it no longer matters. And coincidentally, his contract is ending...

If you know you're getting second half Armia for the next contract, then you definitely resign him. But it's definitely a risk. Unless he's taking 3m again for 2 years.
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Still it is a success story that he was able to figure it out. He has one more year and if he continues like this he and Evans might be two vets who could be worth of extension.
 
I've read somewhere that he started seeing a psychologist and they helped Armia who struggle mightily with his confidence and Joel said that helped him a lot. Maybe his consistency issues are behind him? Then he would be worth his contract and then some with his actual production + contribution on the PK.
 
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Toene said:
I've read somewhere that he started seeing a psychologist and they helped Armia who struggle mightily with his confidence and Joel said that helped him a lot. Maybe his consistency issues are behind him? Then he would be worth his contract and then some with his actual production + contribution on the PP.
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He said a few weeks ago that he was consulting with the team sport psychologist. It seems to have went over most people in here. It's not his stint in Laval that helped him, it was consulting a specialist.
 
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He did a lot of work with a sports psychologist to not get so down in himself when he messed up. Results seem to be there for him and hopefully they can continue.

But n a slightly different note, anyone else notice all the specialists Habs are being in for their players to improve. Dr. Shot, behaviourists, etc. it’s so great to see a team do more than practice and hope their team gets better and actually developing their prospects. I’ve never seen this before but I like it.
 
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Well let’s see how he does next year. He is an absolute asset for us right now and would be the ideal 3rd line winger for us going forward. An extension would have to make sense though. He is not a fresh chicken.
 
Goalfield22 said:
I have him penciled in on the third line next year. Contract year. He should fetch a nice return at the TDL.
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If he finishes this year strong and has a decent year until the deadline then yes I can see him getting a decent return. The bad part of that is if he does those things The Habs could re-sign him.
 
General Fanager said:
The bad part of that is if he does those things The Habs could re-sign him.
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You explain to me how this is bad if Armia signs a team friendly deal.
Who do we have lined up in our system that has the attributes Armia is showing right now.
How much will it cost to not only find a suitable replacement but to sign him.

The whole idea behind team building is to upgrade areas of weakness.
This clearly isn't one of them.
If it becomes one next season we know what to do if not we certainly have bigger holes to fill.
 
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I can live with us just keeping him, not trading him. At this point he's basically our only veteran that adds anything offensively.

I think we still need to keep a few veteran around and he seems well liked and he's now playing great hockey.
 
morhilane said:
He said a few weeks ago that he was consulting with the team sport psychologist. It seems to have went over most people in here. It's not his stint in Laval that helped him, it was consulting a specialist.
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Never heard anything about that or saw it mentioned anywhere on this board. In that case if he continues at his current level next season they should probably keep him (o a resonable contract) unless some team makes an offer too good to pass up.
 
Best player on the habs for me after Suzuki in 2024 edit - ok maybe after Slaf too

Everyone angry at some of us trying to enjoy hockey and obsessively beating that dead horse can suck his massive Finnish jewels.
 
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