Rumor: Jiri Hudler could sign this week, Canucks are in the mix

Braeden

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Would not mind Hudler coming in on a 2 year cheap deal. 2m is a good salary.
 

blankall

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I never understand why the Sedins are called soft? Who are the thoughest players? The one who has the puck or the one Running around trying to hit players? I know, does some of the "canadiens though boys that?"
I dont understand why some experts calles Russell a good ol canadien Boy cuz he blocks lots of shots. He blocks shots cuz he is useless and scared of handling the puck :)

There's no physical push back from the Sedins. They do take punishment well though. Hudler is actually the same way when he's healthy.

That top 6 would be soft in the sense that none of the players would be hitting, and it would be very easy to play against physically. You'd also have a situation where pests/enforcers would be running amok.
 

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There's no physical push back from the Sedins. They do take punishment well though. Hudler is actually the same way when he's healthy.

That top 6 would be soft in the sense that none of the players would be hitting, and it would be very easy to play against physically. You'd also have a situation where pests/enforcers would be running amok.

There aren't only 3 forwards on the ice. The majority of physical pushback on the Canucks will come from the defensemen Edler (when he feels like it) Gudbranson, Tryamkin, Sbisa, and Pedan on defense and Hansen, Virtanen, and Dorsett in the bottom 6.

There are also some young guys like Horvat, Hutton, Gaunce, and Etem with big bodies to throw around if they are looking for the hit. They're not a goon squad but Canucks aren't a soft team either.
 

blankall

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There aren't only 3 forwards on the ice. The majority of physical pushback on the Canucks will come from the defensemen Edler (when he feels like it) Gudbranson, Tryamkin, Sbisa, and Pedan on defense and Hansen, Virtanen, and Dorsett in the bottom 6.

There are also some young guys like Horvat, Hutton, Gaunce, and Etem with big bodies to throw around if they are looking for the hit. They're not a goon squad but Canucks aren't a soft team either.

That's still a pretty soft team relative to other teams in the NHL. Of all those players you've mentioned Virtanen and Dorsett are the only ones that consistently throws hits.

The Canucks are also trending towards a slower puck control game. That's also an issue in terms of difficulty to play against.
 

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Sure it's soft if you isolate the top 6... But why isolate just the top 6? Plenty of teams n the league without a über gritty top 6... Does Kane anisimov panarin strike fear into anyone? How bout kessel bonino Haglund? Pitts and Chicago diddnt need a big gritty power forward in the top 6 to win cups...

The bottom half of the lineup should contain Dorsett, Hansen burrows virtanen.. not Goons but pesky wingers with gritty games.. Then a sizeable d corps including tryamkin gudbranson sbisa pedan... Whom all are just fine with chucking the knuckles

Sure it'd be nice to find a scoring winger with grit, but if they can't find one, then one without grit is the next best option. They're not that soft of a team when you look at the group as a whole imo

The biggest issue for this team will be scoring depth. That's an area hudler can help.
 

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There's no physical push back from the Sedins. They do take punishment well though. Hudler is actually the same way when he's healthy.

That top 6 would be soft in the sense that none of the players would be hitting, and it would be very easy to play against physically. You'd also have a situation where pests/enforcers would be running amok.

Is not like playing physically or using enforcers/pest like the worst thing you can do against the Sedins? You want fast skilled guys who can keep them in their D-zone. I say Sedins would have much tougher time against Pittsburg fast and skilled forwards then Kings/Jets heavy team....
 

thepuckmonster

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Is not like playing physically or using enforcers/pest like the worst thing you can do against the Sedins? You want fast skilled guys who can keep them in their D-zone. I say Sedins would have much tougher time against Pittsburg fast and skilled forwards then Kings/Jets heavy team....

Yeah the Sedins feast on gronks, they struggle playing against fast possession players. They didn't score as many points as they did when any big hard hitting guy can get them off their game.
 

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That's still a pretty soft team relative to other teams in the NHL. Of all those players you've mentioned Virtanen and Dorsett are the only ones that consistently throws hits.

Name 5 teams with a tougher group of defensemen.

The Canucks are also trending towards a slower puck control game. That's also an issue in terms of difficulty to play against.

You just made it super obvious that you don't pay attention to the Canucks at all. Trending towards a slower puck control game? Is that why they've been drafting nothing but strong skaters, trading away their slower puck control players for similar fast north-south ones eg Bonino for Sutter? Other than the Sedins the team has only been trending towards getting more speed and less puck possession.
 

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There's no physical push back from the Sedins. They do take punishment well though. Hudler is actually the same way when he's healthy.

That top 6 would be soft in the sense that none of the players would be hitting, and it would be very easy to play against physically. You'd also have a situation where pests/enforcers would be running amok.
Not sure putting 4th liners out against the Sedins is a good strategy.
 

Mr Positive

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this could be a big year for the Canucks. Gudbranson, Eriksson, and now maybe Hudler would be a good haul.
 

thepuckmonster

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Not sure putting 4th liners out against the Sedins is a good strategy.

Basically. You don't last 17 years in the league with over half of them being elite first liners without dealing with physicality. Hell, if the Sedins were so easy to get off their game by just hitting them really hard Dion Phaneuf would have never gotten traded by Calgary because they basically made him their personal turnstile for years.
 

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I mean, the addition of Hudler along with Eriksson and Gudbranson would maybe make us a bubble team again.
 

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I mean, the addition of Hudler along with Eriksson and Gudbranson would maybe make us a bubble team again.

Depends on our young guys...

Baertschi, Etem, Granlund, Horvat, Virtanen, Gudbranson, Hutton, and Tryamkin are all 24 years old or under. Although I'm not holding my breath on Etem and Granlund, I don't think it's unrealistic to assume that some of the rest of them could take steps forward this year. The question is, how big of a step can each of them take?

Then we have Larsen who is coming off of a good season in the KHL, and Rodin who is the reigning MVP in the SHL; both of these guys are complete wild cards who could go either way for us.

How good we do this next season, and following seasons in the near future, is going to hinge on the development of this group of guys along with our other notable top prospects (Boeser, Demko, Juolevi, Subban, Gaunce).
 

X66

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Lol, Benning/ownership want to make the playoffs.

Worst thing for the organization, but you won't find any tears shed with the rest of the NHL fans lol.
 

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Hoping it's wrong and he signs a cheap deal with the Blackhawks.
 

blankall

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Name 5 teams with a tougher group of defensemen.



You just made it super obvious that you don't pay attention to the Canucks at all. Trending towards a slower puck control game? Is that why they've been drafting nothing but strong skaters, trading away their slower puck control players for similar fast north-south ones eg Bonino for Sutter? Other than the Sedins the team has only been trending towards getting more speed and less puck possession.

They've been drafting those players to make up for the present short falls. The drafted players have largely yet to make the top 6 hence the projection of:

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Baertschi - Sutter - Hudler
 

blankall

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Is not like playing physically or using enforcers/pest like the worst thing you can do against the Sedins? You want fast skilled guys who can keep them in their D-zone. I say Sedins would have much tougher time against Pittsburg fast and skilled forwards then Kings/Jets heavy team....

Don't disagree.

However, part of hockey is also wearing down the other team and making it tough for them to play. The projected top 6 with Hudler in the lineup is both relatively slow and lacking physicality. The Sedins previously survived on both possession and simply scoring at such a ridiculous pace other teams couldn't keep up. Who knows how long they can keep that up.
 

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There's only one word to describe you and I'm gonna spell it out for you;

S A W F T

SAWFT!
 

Brodeur

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I told you guys! @Insider_Jordan had the scoop 2 days ago.
This kid knows something.


.....uh, the tweet in the first post was an hour+ before this guy's. Parroting other tweets and not citing info doesn't mean you have a scoop.

Edit:

And then there was this original tweet:



I guess if I rephrase something I read on Twitter, that makes me an insider.
 
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