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Player Discussion Jimmy Vesey

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7, soon 8 players who are still in the NHL and are impactful players in their roles. Can't argue with that.
 
Edge said:
A good portion of this board turned him on very quickly.

I still like his upside and potential. Maybe it's because I never compared him to Joe Thornton that I didn't feel let down by a sophmore slump. Either way, I think he rebounds this year.
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I like his upside and potential too. But the idea that people only soured on him because he didn't improve is laughable. He had a hugely noticeable regression in the quality of his play.

I'm hoping Vesey can help get his competitive juices flowing. Sort of a one-up, can't-let-my-friend-beat-me mindset. Having him there should be good for Hayes.
 
Tawnos said:
I like his upside and potential too. But the idea that people only soured on him because he didn't improve is laughable. He had a hugely noticeable regression in the quality of his play.

I'm hoping Vesey can help get his competitive juices flowing. Sort of a one-up, can't-let-my-friend-beat-me mindset. Having him there should be good for Hayes.
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We've all seen the power of the bromance (Zucc/Brass/Hags). Hoping to get bromance 2.0 kicked off next year. Bros gonna bro, bro.
 
Raspewtin said:
I feel like Hayes was out of shape and played catchup all year. It happens. And even then he still played well.

I expect a great season from him this year tbh
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He was. First half of the season I could recall in good chunk of the games seeing him hunched over and blowing hard.

Hopefully the Rangers let him have it and he learns his lesson and comes back fitter than ever.
 
Tawnos said:
I like his upside and potential too. But the idea that people only soured on him because he didn't improve is laughable. He had a hugely noticeable regression in the quality of his play.

I'm hoping Vesey can help get his competitive juices flowing. Sort of a one-up, can't-let-my-friend-beat-me mindset. Having him there should be good for Hayes.
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I think most sophmore slumps involve a degree of regression. It's why I also think that a players third year is often the most critical. They either make adjustments, or they don't and it's usually a pretty good indicator of the direction their career will take.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anyone should be thrilled with Hayes sophmore effort or that he's beyond criticism.

It's the extremes that amuse me.
 
Edge said:
I think most sophmore slumps involve a degree of regression. It's why I also think that a players third year is often the most critical. They either make adjustments, or they don't and it's usually a pretty good indicator of the direction their career will take.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anyone should be thrilled with Hayes sophmore effort or that he's beyond criticism.

It's the extremes that amuse me.
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I think in Hayes' case, so much of his struggles seemed to stem from a lack of effort, interest or desire. We have seen what he can do based solely on talent. We all want to see that talent when combined with a motor. And that's where the frustration and criticism comes from.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I think in Hayes' case, so much of his struggles seemed to stem from a lack of effort, interest or desire. We have seen what he can do based solely on talent. We all want to see that talent when combined with a motor. And that's where the frustration and criticism comes from.
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Going off his comments in the offseason, as well as now having Vesey, I would think that Hayes has found a motor.

Yet to be seen, of course, but I would bet he has found that motivation now.
 
Irishguy42 said:
Going off his comments in the offseason, as well as now having Vesey, I would think that Hayes has found a motor.

Yet to be seen, of course, but I would bet he has found that motivation now.
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I think we all hope that's the case. To me, the only thing keeping Hayes from being an impact player is Hayes.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I think we all hope that's the case. To me, the only thing keeping Hayes from being an impact player is Hayes.
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I think AV realizes that too, which is why he made the comments he did at the media break-up day.

AV knows Hayes can be an impact player. He said Hayes is part of the future of this team, but Hayes has to be one to show he's capable of it.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I think we all hope that's the case. To me, the only thing keeping Hayes from being an impact player is Hayes.
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Seems to be the case. He has quite a high ceiling too, I'd argue he has #1 center potential. Poor man's Joe Thornton.

Big players do take longer to develop so lets hope he can take another step forward. NYR haven't had a center prospect with his package since Anisimov.
 
Irishguy42 said:
I think AV realizes that too, which is why he made the comments he did at the media break-up day.

AV knows Hayes can be an impact player. He said Hayes is part of the future of this team, but Hayes has to be one to show he's capable of it.
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What comments did AV make?
 
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