Post-Game Talk: Jets vs. Oilers | MTS Centre | Tues, Sep 17, 7pm

[King Woodballs]

An open letter to Noel regarding lines:

Ladd - Little - Wheeler
Kane - Scheifele - Setoguchi
Halischuk - Jokinen - Frolik
Tangradi - Slater - Peluso

kthnxbai.

#FireYYZinYWG

 

[YWGinYYZ]

#FireYYZinYWG

#whatdidmanonasilvermountaindotoday

#worldssilliesthashtag

 

[Howard Chuck]

Only thing to add. I think everyone sees that as our opening night lineup.

Everyone? *coughNOELcough*

 

[Whileee]

I really like the way our wingers are looking this year. We finally have three very solid lines, however, we're short one good centre.

If we could find a solid 3rd line centre who can keep up with the play, forecheck and distribute the puck to his speedy (and pretty talented) wingers, then we have the making of a solid playoff team. If Pavelec steps it up a bit.

Oli is NOT that guy. I don't believe there is a role for him here any longer. Except maybe as a placeholder while we wait for O'Dell, Lowry, Petan.

Burmi says "Hi!"

 

[PaperRockChamp]

If your fourth line is Wright Slater Peluso, where does tangradi fit in? For me Tangradi>Wright

Good point.. I agree (after 3 games) Tangradi looks good too, but kind of the same lack of finish as Wright.

 

[garret9]

An open letter to Noel regarding lines:

(lineup)


kthnxbai.

Yurp

Pretty much what I'd do (looking at the numbers):

Ladd - Little - Wheeler
Kane - Scheifele - Setoguchi
Halischuk - Jokinen - Frolik
Tangradi - Slater - Peluso
Wright

Enstrom-Byfuglien
Clitsome-Bogosian
Stuart-Postma
Pardy-White

I'd sometimes switch the following depending on how things are going but keep the above as the "most often" positions:
Setoguchi/Frolik
Halischuk/Tangradi
Peluso/Wright
Pardy/Stuart
Postma/White


I really like Trouba, but I think he'd benefit most from being the top guy in the AHL paired up with Melchiori.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Agree with your additional players and their swapping in/out garret. Overall, we've got some decent players in the mix, with some flexibility to suite opponents and even the flow of the game.

 

[Mathmew Purrrr Oh]

Much as I dislike Tangradi, I agree.
Tangradi Slater Peluso.
I should say I don't dislike him, I dislike him on our third line.

I like him on our 3rd line if Olli is center - If it's Mark then I'd go with Halischuk

edit: I also might weep a little in latter scenario

An open letter to Noel regarding lines:

Ladd - Little - Wheeler
Kane - Scheifele - Setoguchi
Halischuk - Jokinen - Frolik
Tangradi - Slater - Peluso

kthnxbai.

flip flop Tang and Hali pls

kthnxbai

 

[Whileee]

Yurp

Pretty much what I'd do (looking at the numbers):

Ladd - Little - Wheeler
Kane - Scheifele - Setoguchi
Halischuk - Jokinen - Frolik
Tangradi - Slater - Peluso
Wright

Enstrom-Byfuglien
Clitsome-Bogosian
Stuart-Postma
Pardy-White

I'd sometimes switch the following depending on how things are going but keep the above as the "most often" positions:
Setoguchi/Frolik
Halischuk/Tangradi
Peluso/Wright
Pardy/Stuart
Postma/White


I really like Trouba, but I think he'd benefit most from being the top guy in the AHL paired up with Melchiori.

I agree with this, unless Trouba really impresses in the rest of the pre-season.

I think that Tangradi might end up playing 3rd line a fair bit, especially in "heavy" games in the West. I liked him last year, and he's been good so far in pre-season. He actually has a pretty good resume from Junior and the AHL, with much more evidence of offense than Wright.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

I like him on our 3rd line if Olli is center - If it's Mark then I'd go with Halischuk

edit: I also might weep a little in latter scenario



flip flop Tang and Hali pls

kthnxbai

I could definitely get behind that. In that mock line-up, I had Halischuk on the third as he's had a bit more offensive success than Tangradi, but on the flipside, Tangradi could make some room for Scheifele and Frolik. Those three actually looked pretty good together for the few shifts they had last game.

Getting a bit of scoring out of Halischuk and Slater and sniper2.0 on the 4th wouldn't be such a bad thing either. That's a definite improvement over GST, and gives Slater a couple of teammates that hustle and might be able to pot a couple.

Wright was decent on the PK, but then again, so is Ladd, Little, Frolik, Halischuk, Kane, and hopefully Scheifele.

 

[veganhunter]

I'd like to see

LLW
KSS
Tangradi Jokinen Frolik
Wright Slater Halischuk
Peluso

(I believe that Halischuk can play both sides? If Tangradi isn't producing any offence then revert Halischuk to LW3, Wright LW4, and Peluso RW4)

Enstrom Bogo
Buff Clitty
Stuart ?

(Honestly not sure who I want on the bottom pairing with Stuart. I know Enstrom and Byfuglien play better together but I really want to see what Enstrom can do with Bogo and vice versa. Also Buff looked pretty good with Clitty last year)

Pavelec
Montoya

(I think it goes without saying less games for Pavs and avoid back to backs)

 

[wpgsilver]

Why not have a line up thread?
We've kind of gotten way OT.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Might I suggest:

Ladd Little Wheeler
Kane Scheifele Frolik
Halischuk Joker Gooch
Tangradi Slater Wright

 

[wpgsilver]

Might I suggest:

Ladd Little Wheeler
Kane Scheifele Frolik
Halischuk Joker Gooch
Tangradi Slater Wright

Why switch Seto and Frolik?
Not saying its terrible, I just don't see why it's better.

 

[KingBogo]

Might I suggest:

Ladd Little Wheeler
Kane Scheifele Frolik
Halischuk Joker Gooch
Tangradi Slater Wright

Not a bad suggestion. I could easily see Frolik moving up to the 2nd line if Gooch goes into a dry spell. But I expect Gooch to be on 2nd line to start the season.

 

[puck stoppa]

I like the lines that are being suggested. Just one question, where does Thorburn land in all this. I know most will post who cares, cut him, he sucks. But I don't see Noel doing that to a respected member in the room, thoughts?

 

[wpgsilver]

I see him being waived.
You can only be respectful to a point. He's not gonna sit, waive or assign someone worse than Thorburn. For all his leadership and likeability, he's still a below average 4th liner.

 

[Shakey Rustie]

I like the lines that are being suggested. Just one question, where does Thorburn land in all this. I know most will post who cares, cut him, he sucks. But I don't see Noel doing that to a respected member in the room, thoughts?

Well it depends who/what is wanted on the roster. We are allowed 3 healthy scratches (23 man roster, lineup is 18 skaters and 2 goalies), so do we go with 1 forward and 2 dmen or 2 forwards and 1 dmen for healthy scratches? In my opinion, for a guy like Trouba, if he cannot make the starting roster, he is better served in the AHL where he will get playing time, not to mention he wont have to clear waivers. So Trouba aside, that leaves Byfuglien, Enstrom, Bogosian, Clitsome, Stuart, Redmond, Postma, and Pardy on the blueline - totalling 8 players, which could be okay if the Jets are going with 2 dmen and 1 forward as their healthy scratches. Of those boardline dmen, I believe Redmond is the only one that is doesn't need to pass through waivers, so again, he may find himself in the AHL just because of that. I could go on and on, but essentially the tough call on forwards comes down to Thorburn, Cormier, and Peluso, none of which are waiver exempt. So assuming Trouba and Redmond are sent down, the Jets are left with Thorburn, Peluso, Cormier, Postma, and Pardy as the remaining 5 player to fill the 3 healthy scratch positions in the press box to start the season. I'm unsure if they have to clear waivers to start the year (someone please look it up for me) if the Jets send them down to the AHL once camp is done, but I am under the impression they will have to clear waivers. And lastly, this is all assuming we do not sign Ian White. Hope I didn't miss anything.

 

[knorthern knight]

I like the lines that are being suggested. Just one question, where does Thorburn land in all this. I know most will post who cares, cut him, he sucks. But I don't see Noel doing that to a respected member in the room, thoughts?

Sorry, but Thorburn has to go. He contributes less than Jokinen. He can't fight very well either. Peluso is a better fighter and a better RW than Thorburn, and he's better defensively. With Thorburn on, the "5-on-5-penalty-kill" is painfull to watch.

 

[knorthern knight]

Well it depends who/what is wanted on the roster. We are allowed 3 healthy scratches (23 man roster, lineup is 18 skaters and 2 goalies), so do we go with 1 forward and 2 dmen or 2 forwards and 1 dmen for healthy scratches?

On a tangentially related question, how are our 18 skaters broken down? Do we go with 11 forwards and 7 defensemen, or 12 forwards and 6 defensemen

• 11 forwards and 7 defensemen (move Byfuglien to RW in an emergency?)
• 12 forwards and 6 defensemen (move Peluso to defense in an emergency?). This would argue for keeping Peluso up, and sending Thorburn down.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

On a tangentially related question, how are our 18 skaters broken down? Do we go with 11 forwards and 7 defensemen, or 12 forwards and 6 defensemen

• 11 forwards and 7 defensemen (move Byfuglien to RW in an emergency?)
• 12 forwards and 6 defensemen (move Peluso to defense in an emergency?). This would argue for keeping Peluso up, and sending Thorburn down.

Every single team in the league has ALWAYS used 12 forwards and 6 defensemen. On RARE occasions will team use 7 D, but never never on any regular basis will you go with 7 D. If you have an injury you just go to 5 D or 11 FWD. Then you have 2 FWD and 1 D as extra's for day to day injuries that are normally healthy scratched but still on the roster.

 

[Huffer]

I like the lines that are being suggested. Just one question, where does Thorburn land in all this. I know most will post who cares, cut him, he sucks. But I don't see Noel doing that to a respected member in the room, thoughts?

While it seems that most of us would like Peluso and some sort of combo of Tangradi and Wright on the 4th, there is still a good possibility that Noel keeps Thorburn there due to his "vet" status as we all know how much Noel likes to trust the vet.

That being said, IMO, I have Tangradi,Slater, and Peluso as the 4th. Which leaves Wright and Thorburn as the pressbox guys.

On D I run with Buff, Toby,Clitsome, Bogo, and Stuart. And alternate the 6th and 7th between Postma, and possibly White (if mgmt likes him). That leaves Redmond, Trouba, and Pardy for the Ice Caps.

If that was the way it went, I'm not sure if there would be an "unwritten rule" to possibly approach Thorburn and see if he was ok with that kind of 13th man role, with the possibility of seeing if there was interest elsewhere in the league and more playing time if he wasn't.