Post-Game Talk: Jets tame Panthers 4-3

[Ducky10]

This doesn't belong here but I just seen the Oilers / Aves scoring sheet mid way through the second - holy McDavid

I was at the game, he was ridiculous. Barely saw the ice in the 3rd, likely could have had 8 or 9 if he did.

 

[Ducky10]

Good play between the dots......win. It's that easy .

Good job Jets.

 

[DRW204]

Your not getting it.
My whole point is that Kuli isn't going anywhere.
Your statement that we should have traded him and a 4th hasn't happened and won't for good reason.
The only way a team would take him on is to get a high draft pick with it. The Jets would be foolish to do that so he is here to stay until end of season.

Like I said show me which trades costed a 1st this past off season for a one year cap dump

 

[DRW204]

not what you were saying. you said the jets would have to attach a draft pick to him to move him he was that bad. in reality if a team offered the jets a draft pick for him the jets wouldn't take it unless it was a 1st more then likely.

I said the jets would have to attach a draft pick to move him. What round? No clue really. But I definitely don't think it'd be a 1st. There's no reason to move him like you said since they lost 3 Dmen in the off season. Doesn't absolve the fact that kulikov is horrible and overpaid though.

 

[ffh]

Watching KC last night carefully, he is certainly not a player who works his linemates as well as 55/29. He is awesome at what he does, but he plays like he has blinders on sometimes. Ehlers hasn't in the past, but this year seems to have a little more peripheral vision than KC at this point of their careers, and would work better with 55/29 imo.

Again, maybe Maurice feels that he needs Ehlers to help the Wheeler line, but my unprofessional opinion is that Ehlers and KC should switch. It just seems like a better fit for both lines.

cant agree with this, connor does a lot of things right. he and scheifele work well together and so does connor and laine for that matter. laine and ehlers need to be forced to work north south which they don't when they play together. ehlers just passes up shot after shot when he plays with laine and after 2 years of them mostly struggling together its good they split them up.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I'm staying away from the board as they seem to be winning if im not around

Noooo, you're one of my favorite posters

 

[Gm0ney]

Something that I noticed is that the ice time was in a more acceptable range. All our top 9 were in the 17 to 18 and a half minute range. I don't think it's a surprise our top players looked more fresh.

Another benefit to splitting up Wheeler and Scheifele.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Another benefit to splitting up Wheeler and Scheifele.

So as soon as lits comes back. Wheels to 1st and laine to second as this is working to well.

 

[Jets 31]

So as soon as lits comes back. Wheels to 1st and laine to second as this is working to well.

If we are playing ok and in a playoff spot when Little gets back and Maurice does that , he should be fired . I think Maurice will either move Frenchie down to the 4th line or put Little there , at least at first .

 

[Jets 31]

I was at the game, he was ridiculous. Barely saw the ice in the 3rd, likely could have had 8 or 9 if he did.

Hope you got Oiler cooties now . Way to help the Oilers beat a divisional opponent for us though .

 

[DRW204]

To CAR:
Patrick Marleau
Conditional 1st in 2020 (moves to 2021 if the 2020 1st is top 10)

To TOR:
6th round pick in 2020

yes i pointed this 1 out previously. but i don't think kulikov's contract is structured the same where the buy-out would still cost his current cap-hit so Marleau would still be far more difficult to move

 

[ffh]

I said the jets would have to attach a draft pick to move him. What round? No clue really. But I definitely don't think it'd be a 1st. There's no reason to move him like you said since they lost 3 Dmen in the off season. Doesn't absolve the fact that kulikov is horrible and overpaid though.

Kulikov is playing all right but is overpaid. its a moot point if the jets aren't interested in moving Kulikov what they would attach to move him a 2nd 3rs 5th it doesn't matter cause the jets have no thought to do it probably because if they thought he was as bad as you he would be a healthy scratch and not in the top 4. matter of fact if some team called them today and offered a 2nd straight up for him with there situation on defence they wouldn't even consider the offer.

 

[DRW204]

Kulikov is playing all right but is overpaid. its a moot point if the jets aren't interested in moving Kulikov what they would attach to move him a 2nd 3rs 5th it doesn't matter cause the jets have no thought to do it probably because if they thought he was as bad as you he would be a healthy scratch and not in the top 4. matter of fact if some team called them today and offered a 2nd straight up for him with there situation on defence they wouldn't even consider the offer.

if the Jets are out of the playoffs yes they'd consider that offer at the TDL. no rush to move him now though.

 

[ffh]

if the Jets are out of the playoffs yes they'd consider that offer at the TDL. no rush to move him now though.

I agree

 

[rkp]

Funny how pomo is getting all the credit for laine's play, if it wasn't for little's injury, the line makeups would be entirely different and we all know what the results were. every cloud has a silver lining, but it might be we don't need little as much as we all think we do. might be good trade bait for a dman as Kulikov is downright terrible this season with his play.

 

[DRW204]

Funny how pomo is getting all the credit for laine's play, if it wasn't for little's injury, the line makeups would be entirely different and we all know what the results were. every cloud has a silver lining, but it might be we don't need little as much as we all think we do. might be good trade bait for a dman as Kulikov is downright terrible this season with his play.

GMs see Kulikov averaging 20Mins a night and probably think he must be serviceable.... and maybe he's good in the room too.

 

[Adam da bomb]

If we are playing ok and in a playoff spot when Little gets back and Maurice does that , he should be fired . I think Maurice will either move Frenchie down to the 4th line or put Little there , at least at first .

I mean there are other options like moving Roslo down and keeping wheeler and lits together.
After all look how much pk time wheeler gets. Mo likes vets with the exception of Perrault.

 

[Bigfish]

I wonder how many people will give Maurice due credit for that? They sure were ripping him apart when he was struggling and learning

I give Maurice credit for taking a 40 goal scorer and turning him into a 20 goal scorer. I personally prefer the 2016-2018 Laine than I do the 2018 - current Laine.

 

[DRW204]

I give Maurice credit for taking a 40 goal scorer and turning him into a 20 goal scorer. I personally prefer the 2016-2018 Laine than I do the 2018 - current Laine.

Laine's sh% since Dec 2018 is 6.19% despite having one of the highest shot totals and shot rates (per 60) on the team & one of the highest amount of pp toi/game. Lot of things are on on Maurice but not the fact Laine can't score at a high rate anymore imo. He's getting shots off but no goals.

 

[Jet]

I give Maurice credit for taking a 40 goal scorer and turning him into a 20 goal scorer. I personally prefer the 2016-2018 Laine than I do the 2018 - current Laine.

I wonder how many people prefer a high scoring team that doesn't win in the playoffs to a team that scores appropriately and wins?

Patrik Laine will be fine. This new dimension (backchecking, forechecking, hitting, and passing) is going to open up so many more shots for him. It is only a matter of time before he starts scoring again.

Sometimes you have to tear something down and rebuild it. Patrik was a different player after the McCabe hit, and I am starting to see some moxie coming back into his game. Stuff like net drives, trying defensemen, attacking with speed when he has the puck. He was quite timid after he came back from his concussion (understandably). I think what he's starting to understand now is that he is a big strong man, and he can play a physical game which makes me salivate.

A power forward with a shot like that? The NHL should be very scared. That is going to be so important in the playoffs.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I wonder how many people prefer a high scoring team that doesn't win in the playoffs to a team that scores appropriately and wins?

Patrik Laine will be fine. This new dimension (backchecking, forechecking, hitting, and passing) is going to open up so many more shots for him. It is only a matter of time before he starts scoring again.

Sometimes you have to tear something down and rebuild it. Patrik was a different player after the McCabe hit, and I am starting to see some moxie coming back into his game. Stuff like net drives, trying defensemen, attacking with speed when he has the puck. He was quite timid after he came back from his concussion (understandably). I think what he's starting to understand now is that he is a big strong man, and he can play a physical game which makes me salivate.

A power forward with a shot like that? The NHL should be very scared. That is going to be so important in the playoffs.

As Patty himself said after the game last night, it doesn't matter if he's scoring as long as someone is. Assists are just as important because someone has scored.

You make an excellent point regarding tearing something down to rebuild it. The best example of this that I can think of is Tiger Woods. He was off the radar for a couple of years while he completely changed his swing. He was the very best at what he did, but still tore it all down and rebuilt himself to be even better.

I think this is the path that Laine is on.

 

[surixon]

I wonder how many people prefer a high scoring team that doesn't win in the playoffs to a team that scores appropriately and wins?

Patrik Laine will be fine. This new dimension (backchecking, forechecking, hitting, and passing) is going to open up so many more shots for him. It is only a matter of time before he starts scoring again.

Sometimes you have to tear something down and rebuild it. Patrik was a different player after the McCabe hit, and I am starting to see some moxie coming back into his game. Stuff like net drives, trying defensemen, attacking with speed when he has the puck. He was quite timid after he came back from his concussion (understandably). I think what he's starting to understand now is that he is a big strong man, and he can play a physical game which makes me salivate.

A power forward with a shot like that? The NHL should be very scared. That is going to be so important in the playoffs.

Pretty much what I said last year when people were all over Laine. Maurice was having completely rebuild his game and that in large part was the cause of the inconsistency.

We are now seeing the new foundation in place and he's working his offense back into it.

One criticism I still have on the staff is the reduction in slot chances and controlled entries which is where I think his goal scoring has been limited. Now if what we saw last night with the seam passes and passing to the slot starts to become the norm the team will start to score much more, Patty being one of them.

 

[DRW204]

Wheeler hasn't looked good via eye test right now. I know Wheeler is playing out of position but still need more from him. At least he isn't tanking the 2nd line at a considerable rate & the line is still generating shots and chances at a good rate, mostly b/c of Rosie and Ehlers imo.

 

[cbcwpg]

The Jets have found their top pairing... and it doesn't include Wheeler.

Not saying he's bad, but he's getting paid to be a #1 guy, and he's not playing like it. Makes it worse when there is still 4 more years of this contract to go.

 

[surixon]

The Jets have found their top pairing... and it doesn't include Wheeler.

Not saying he's bad, but he's getting paid to be a #1 guy, and he's not playing like it. Makes it worse when there is still 4 more years of this contract to go.

Laine has surpassed him. This transition was inevitable and one of the reasons I didn't like the contract as I figured he wouldn't be on our first line that much longer.

Having said that if he can help create a second dangerous line then he still has a lot of value to the team. I just don't see it as him at C though.