Post-Game Talk: Jets shut out Oilers 1-0

[PhilJets]

heinola should not be kept on the team and burn an elc year.

even though he seems capable, he still needs to mature.

I think he should go back to Europe.

much less chance of him getting seriously injured there as opposed to the ahl.

if the management of this team has shown anything it is patience in player development.

I do not think he should be rushed.

we have other young defencemen that can be looked at this year and given a chance to see where they are.

just like the development of our young forwards, we are at a point where we have time with our young defence.

especially if buf comes back

Injury happens to all.
If you are thinking he will get injured

Instead his better developing in europe.

That's not the way to think.

If he keeps forcing his way.
He should stay.

That's whats good about Heinola.

He just zoomed pass all the other Jets young Dman.

The other young Dman can be looked at by replacing the 6th Dman.
Which is not Heinola at this moment.

If we are afraid to burn an elc so we can slide back a year and thats is the reason. Jets shouldnt do that. If the kid can play he should play.
If he can't then no.
So far he can play. Not just his own play, but also how the Jets D becomes more dynamic with him in the line up.
He will screw up for sure. But all players does. But he is out weighing the cons by his pros. I think that is the bottom line.
Sending him to Europe , he is not gonna get better with his D game or offense. He will get better playing against NHL best player.

I also advocate to keep Heinola because his mental game is super high.
That is important, if he is a bit fragile. Sure slow him down.

If our reason to send him down are;
He will get seriously injured
We burn 1 year of his elc
He will be better playing a year in Europe ( weird with Kves, different with every players).


I think that is up for discussion, if those are our reason to hold back a progressing player in the NHL.

 

[Puckatron 3000]

I was hoping for 6-5.

Those stingy bastards.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

SN told me Ehlers scored the winner. Should I believe SN or my lying eyes?

That would be Mark Ehlers, right?

 

[thejaf7]

what was the attendance tonight?

 

[Jet]

Because a shared loss against a one player team doesn’t give me confidence in a horribly coached team!

Wow this post says a lot, and it's not good for you.

Really well played game - great win. Hope the forwards get the hint that defence involves them, too

 

[Psych0dad]

He's not scoring and teams pay for goals not improved play.

He just scored and Jets won because of it.

 

[Halberdier]

Pretty good game by the Jets. No major complaints.

Some puck mishandling by Laine, but still a good game. He needs to have more accuracy on his shots though. I have never seen Wheeler to mishandle puck 4 times in a row on PP: two of these did fortunately have a lucky bounce from Oilers players so that Jets got the puck back, but the other two were just turnovers.

Overall Jets were really balanced, and Copp made Lowry line effective again.

I hate those offside reviews, when the goal is not result of an offside rush. NHL should have some 5 second rule to end that bullshit: no reviews, if that offside happened 5 seconds before the goal.

 

[Belzebob]

Injury happens to all.
If you are thinking he will get injured

Instead his better developing in europe.

That's not the way to think.

If he keeps forcing his way.
He should stay.

That's whats good about Heinola.

He just zoomed pass all the other Jets young Dman.

The other young Dman can be looked at by replacing the 6th Dman.
Which is not Heinola at this moment.

If we are afraid to burn an elc so we can slide back a year and thats is the reason. Jets shouldnt do that. If the kid can play he should play.
If he can't then no.
So far he can play. Not just his own play, but also how the Jets D becomes more dynamic with him in the line up.
He will screw up for sure. But all players does. But he is out weighing the cons by his pros. I think that is the bottom line.
Sending him to Europe , he is not gonna get better with his D game or offense. He will get better playing against NHL best player.

I also advocate to keep Heinola because his mental game is super high.
That is important, if he is a bit fragile. Sure slow him down.

If our reason to send him down are;
He will get seriously injured
We burn 1 year of his elc
He will be better playing a year in Europe ( weird with Kves, different with every players).


I think that is up for discussion, if those are our reason to hold back a progressing player in the NHL.

with all due respect......your take is insane.

heinola is 18.

he has a lot of growing left to do.

are you willing to sacrifice a long term defenceman for the team by playing him too early?

how many defenceman have made this league at 18?

I think for his own development he should go back to Europe. put on some muscle and come back with his 3 elc years intact.

to take the risk with the young man right now with the known headhunters in this league would be insane.

give him a little more time to grow so he can take the hitting involved in an 82 game season

the jets have always been patient with players and it has turned out just fine

why change the recipe now?

 

[Halberdier]

Wheeler is also a notorious slow starter so slow the brakes on his demise just yet

Wheeler had a huge 1st game this season. His best I have ever seen. But after 2 first games, he has certainly looked slower, a bit gassed I should say. We have had a rough schedule, and he is not a young boy anymore. Maurice should just play him 2 minutes less per game and I am sure he would be fine.

He has not been actually bad, but just much worse than Laine and Ehlers and on par with Connor, who has also had a slow start despite his very nice goals.

 

[Jets 31]

Sure, the Lowry line looked okay but without Bourque and Letestu they really struggled in the room.

As long as Bourque , Letestu and Potato STAY in the room when the actual Jets hit the ice i'm all for them helping in the room .

 

[Belzebob]

As long as Bourque , Letestu and Potato STAY in the room when the actual Jets hit the ice i'm all for them helping in the room .

well being how at least 2 out of 3, (bourque and Letestu), kind of like hitting people, they are handy to have around.

last time I checked we still play in the central division

 

[Jets 31]

well being how at least 2 out of 3, (bourque and Letestu), kind of like hitting people, they are handy to have around.

last time I checked we still play in the central division

Last time i checked you win games by out scoring the other team , we have players with way more talent than those 3 guys . I don't mind one of them playing but not all 3 in the same game .

 

[JetsFan815]

Wheeler seriously should be demoted to line 2 and off PP1. Plays die on his stick on the PP and hes 2 slow to keep up with 55 and 29 ES. Put Ehlers on there. That play in OT.. The 2 on 1.. That just shows you 26 is just off

I am not inclined to blame Wheeler for PP1's woes. To people it seems he mishandles the puck the most or plays die on his stick the most but that's just because he's handling the puck the most. The blame for PP1 lies on the whole unit and the scheme. They need to try a few other things when it seems like the seam pass isn't there. Right now it's just too static and allowing the opposition to gameplan against it. The mirror PP with Connor in the middle, Laine on the right half wall and Wheeler in the Laine spot was an interesting wrinkle that they seemed to have abandoned after a couple of bad games.

 

[Belzebob]

Last time i checked you win games by out scoring the other team , we have players with way more talent than those 3 guys . I don't mind one of them playing but not all 3 in the same game .

I can agree on all 3 at once.

we do have lots of firepower.

but you can never have too much grit.

as an example, it may be too much but I would smile if Maurice grabbed a stick and speared say corey perry, just because he is a dick

 

[Halberdier]

I am not inclined to blame Wheeler for PP1's woes. To people it seems he mishandles the puck the most or plays die on his stick the most but that's just because he's handling the puck the most. The blame for PP1 lies on the whole unit and the scheme. They need to try a few other things when it seems like the seam pass isn't there. Right now it's just too static and allowing the opposition to gameplan against it. The mirror PP with Connor in the middle, Laine on the right half wall and Wheeler in the Laine spot was an interesting wrinkle that they seemed to have abandoned after a couple of bad games.

Reversing PP is only a trick they do some times to shake the opponent of their trails and make the PP less predictable. I am sure they will do that again occasionally, and they also should.

On games like that, it's not true that Wheeler does mishandle the puck on PP so often only because he handles the puck most. I can't remember seeing anyone mishandling puck 4 times in a row on PP, but Wheeler did that. Only got lucked 2 of those 4 times, as the puck bounced back for the Jets. But most of the time Wheeler is doing fine job on PP, only he has had some rough puck handling lately. Wheeler is used to have some bunch of games when pucks just keeps bouncing from his stick, but for sure he will be all right soon.

No need to panic, but I would really love to see Ehlers on right half wall as he could skate the puck into the zone (the biggest current problem on PP1) and he has the perfect handedness for the job and he has the best shot for all left handed Jets. That would enable one timers from both sides of the zone. For example when Laine gets too slow pass for an one time, he could make a fake shot and then a quick and accurate pass for Ehlers to one-time it. Obviously it's stupid to even think about that option, as Maurice is certainly not going to do that. He doesn't separate Scheifele and Wheeler even for 3-on-3, 4-on-4 or PK let alone PP and 5-on-5. Even if he did separate them on 5-on-5 (last time that happened during mid 16-17), he would certainly keep them together for PP.

 

[King Woodballs]

Pleasantly surprised with last nights out come.
I didn’t think they had much of a chance with the way they had been playing and with who they were playing.

On to the next one!

 

[ulf]

Here come the Kudos

Welcome back Little you made our bottom 6 way better
HELLYBUCK
Congrats PoMo and did you really put out Connor and Laine as our 1/2 punch in the shootout.....what's next Wheeler used more appropriately.
65 minutes 200 feet with heart
2 shots in the 1st didn't cost us the game....character.

 

[FiveHoled]

Jets made a 'Little' adjustment and were A LOT better off tonight.

 

[Guffman]

I hate those offside reviews, when the goal is not result of an offside rush. NHL should have some 5 second rule to end that bull****: no reviews, if that offside happened 5 seconds before the goal.

I absolutely agree with this.

 

[Guffman]

Jotting down a few things from my diary:

• Thank God the under-appreciated Little was back, bumping Copp down to Lowry. Lines 2 and 3 were sharp.
• Pionk to PP1 is definitely an improvement. As someone mentioned, he gets the puck to Laine more easily/often than Morrissey
• A shame the Dahlstrom goal didn’t count. It was a nice snipe and would have been a great first career goal
• Great defensive effort tonight. Props to Maurice!
• Speaking of Maurice, props on 700 wins!!

 

[folix]

Injury happens to all.
If you are thinking he will get injured

Instead his better developing in europe.

That's not the way to think.

If he keeps forcing his way.
He should stay.

That's whats good about Heinola.

He just zoomed pass all the other Jets young Dman.

The other young Dman can be looked at by replacing the 6th Dman.
Which is not Heinola at this moment.

If we are afraid to burn an elc so we can slide back a year and thats is the reason. Jets shouldnt do that. If the kid can play he should play.
If he can't then no.
So far he can play. Not just his own play, but also how the Jets D becomes more dynamic with him in the line up.
He will screw up for sure. But all players does. But he is out weighing the cons by his pros. I think that is the bottom line.
Sending him to Europe , he is not gonna get better with his D game or offense. He will get better playing against NHL best player.

I also advocate to keep Heinola because his mental game is super high.
That is important, if he is a bit fragile. Sure slow him down.

If our reason to send him down are;
He will get seriously injured
We burn 1 year of his elc
He will be better playing a year in Europe ( weird with Kves, different with every players).


I think that is up for discussion, if those are our reason to hold back a progressing player in the NHL.

Right now I agree he is playing meaningful mins, people have to understand that you CAN develop in the NHL as well.

 

[kanadalainen]

Honestly, that was the best** game I've seen in years. So many good chances on both sides, lots of back and forth, the overtime 3 on 3 was superb.

Congratulations to Paul Maurice on his 700th win, that is a proper job. I appreciated his request, in the post-game scrum, for some Led Zeppelin. I think he mentioned "Kashmir" in which Page uses Celtic Tuning (D-A-D-G-A-D)... and the result is lots of cool droning.

Which I am no stranger to.




**best... in the context of a good defensive game, some decent chances both ways, awesome goaltending, good work by the forwards to check the Second Coming and his McSidekick , etc etc

 

[puck stoppa]

Amazing how Copp can make each line he plays on a good line. Adding Little makes a difference and Copp and Lowry look like their old selves.
Great win last night, we need to play boring hockey more often. Helly needed a shut out last night to keep the confidence soaring even more.

 

[JetsNut]

Only watched the 3rd and OT&SO but Wheeler looked off again, misdirected passes everywhere, slow decision making, time to try Ehlers on 1st line with Scheif and Laine.

You know this, I know this, most others know this, but yet Maurice WILL NOT do it!!!

 

[Jack722]

Was impressed by Connor's game. He's looked a bit soft lately but not last night. He was hitting and playing really hard.

Really, really hoping to see Gustafson stick when Letestu is healthy... that and Little being back makes a massive difference for us