Post-Game Talk: Jets see Stars, lose in OT 4-3

[Aphid]

I mean that's the problem with hypotheticals, they almost won. Maybe Connor and Scheifele out there to start actually wins it?

They didn't win and while Wheeler played fine in OT I think someone else could have been a better option.

That's the thing. Wheeler didn't play bad this game in OT. The point is he shouldn't be starting OT any time. He's not the player he was years ago in any way. Maybe this game he didn't play horribly but what about every other game he does?

Stuff like this shows that it wasn't only Maurice that had to go. It's the whole coaching staff of this team that has to go. They simply cannot stop living in the past.

 

[ThinIce61]

any other forward would have done the same thing as scheifele there

I'm not saying he shouldn't he should, what I'm saying is he didn't hustle back to try and break up the play. Scheifele looks like he does everything he can to not touch Robertson. IMO he could have disrupted him from shooting without taking a penalty. Watch it and tell me I'm wrong.

 

[gojetsgo]

I'm not saying he shouldn't he should, what I'm saying is he didn't hustle back to try and break up the play. Scheifele looks like he does everything he can to not touch Robertson. IMO he could have disrupted him from shooting without taking a penalty. Watch it and tell me I'm wrong.

he shot it before scheifele made it to him then scheif tripped over his leg

 

[johnnyonthspot]

It is going to be painful to watch the next 39 games. Team Inconsistent has a way if getting hopes up just to have them dashed. This was also another example of them not getting the breaks. Morrisey blocks the shot only to have it go right to a star.
I guess you make your own breaks but if the Jets did not have bad puck luck they would have no luck at all

 

[ThinIce61]

he shot it before scheifele made it to him then scheif tripped over his leg

Don't think so he could have reached out with his stick and potentially altered the shot.. Scheifele didn't hustle back.

 

[Do or Die]

I'm not sure why Scheifele and Wheeler started the OT when Dubois and Connor were playing so well./QUOTE]

Tradition...

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Just how mobile and fluid a skater that Morrissey is was on fine display tonight. He looked fantastic out there.

But ya, we needed the second point.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Just how mobile and fluid a skater that Morrissey is was on fine display tonight. He looked fantastic out there.

But ya, we needed the second point.

But it looked like he was weak on Ben for their 3rd goal.

 

[Ducky10]

Yeah absolute garbage coaching. I've pretty much seen enough of him.

I have, pretty obvious he’s just more of the same at the end of the day. He might play the young guys a bit more but when things get tight he reverts to the same type of thinking as Maurice.

 

[bustamente]

Next coach has to have no ties to this organization, we need a fresh coach and assistants to guide this teams young core going forward.

 

[Ducky10]

But it looked like he was weak on Ben for their 3rd goal.

I take it you’re familiar with Benn? Happens to the best of them, he’s a beast and a terrific player. Benn got position on him and made a good tip. Tough play.

 

[Ducky10]

Don't think so he could have reached out with his stick and potentially altered the shot.. Scheifele didn't hustle back.

You seem to be just hell bent on flaming Scheifele over that play. He did make it back into the play, Robertson made a strong move by sticking his leg out to shield the puck, Scheifele tried to disrupt it but crashed over him. Hardly doing everything he can to not touch him, that’s just silly. It’s not like Robertson got some great shot away anyway, he shot it right at Morrissey and got a lucky ass bounce right back on his stick at the top of the crease with Helle down and out.
Sure, rant about Scheifele all you want, it’s way over the top on that particular play. Wasn’t nearly as bad as you’re making it out.

 

[tbcwpg]

Don't think so he could have reached out with his stick and potentially altered the shot.. Scheifele didn't hustle back.

It feels like you're starting from the conclusion that Scheifele did something wrong and are just working backwards to jam square pegs into round holes.

Scheifele deserves a lot of criticism this season but I think he was pretty good this game.

 

[surixon]

I have, pretty obvious he’s just more of the same at the end of the day. He might play the young guys a bit more but when things get tight he reverts to the same type of thinking as Maurice.

Yup, not really progressive at all and just rides his washed up captain.

 

[ps241]

Fun game, tough loss, onward to tomorrow.

 

[Ducky10]

25-55-26 got absolutely battered metrics wise tonight, just caved really.
Xgf%
Scf%
Hdcf%

All bad.

 

[barrywpg]

The

And also, I shouldn't have to say it, but no, it is not the case that "single points are meaningless". The difference between 1-1-0 and 0-0-2 is so small as to be irrelevant.

Two games in a row we've been about 3:2 dogs going in. We're 1-0-1 in those. Just how easy do y'all think it is to win in the NHL?

The thing is,if you're playing the teams you're chasing 1-1-0 gives them 2 points 0-0-2 gives them 4 points

 

[FonRiesen]

The catastrophizing is something else. Our chances of making the playoffs went up a little bit after Minnesota. They went down slightly less after dropping this in OT. We're still about the same 3:1 - 4:1 dogs to make it that we were before. So no, this game did not 'end the season'.

And also, I shouldn't have to say it, but no, it is not the case that "single points are meaningless". The difference between 1-1-0 and 0-0-2 is so small as to be irrelevant.

Two games in a row we've been about 3:2 dogs going in. We're 1-0-1 in those. Just how easy do y'all think it is to win in the NHL?

If we can't get ahead of Dallas, we cannot make the playoffs. Thankfully there are 2 more games against them. We won the first in a shootout, they win this in overtime, so technically they're 'ahead' in terms of a tie-breaker, but not by much.

Losing in regulation in either remaining game vs Dallas means they own the tie-breaker - maybe it's meaningless, if we can leapfrog them, but it's looking less and less likely. Not a catastrophe tonight, but a missed opportunity for sure...

 

[surixon]

25-55-26 got absolutely battered metrics wise tonight, just caved really.
Xgf%
Scf%
Hdcf%

All bad.

Par for the course, their metrics are shit on the year while everyone else's sans Toninato are respectable to very good and yet it's those two that get all the minutes. What the f*** is our coaching staff smoking, either that or no one has the guts to bench the two of them.

I'm starting to lean towards Wheeler needs to go. Clearly he either insists on his usage, our coaches are all dumb, or our coaches can't stand up to him in the room.

Him and Mark together have a 41% GF and a 43% XGF this year. Those results are down right pathetic. What's funny is there CF% is 50 which just means they are having fun on the perimeter lobbing long range shots. For a coach he'll bent on getting his players to go to the front of the net he is certainly doing a bang up job at rewarding that behavior.....

 

[gojetsgo]

lost ground on dallas but made up ground on the ducks, we play the stars 2 more times this year so those games will be massive

 

[tbcwpg]

25-55-26 got absolutely battered metrics wise tonight, just caved really.
Xgf%
Scf%
Hdcf%

All bad.

My eyes lie to me then, or maybe it's recency bias. I felt 55 wasn't too bad tonight. Maybe it's the points clouding my judgment. Can't say I noticed 26 or 25 positively or negatively.

 

[surixon]

My eyes lie to me then, or maybe it's recency bias. I felt 55 wasn't too bad tonight. Maybe it's the points clouding my judgment. Can't say I noticed 26 or 25 positively or negatively.

Mark individually was fine imo. The line as a whole was not.

 

[AlphaLackey]

The thing is,if you're playing the teams you're chasing 1-1-0 gives them 2 points 0-0-2 gives them 4 points

Like I'm not denying that this result lowered our chances. Just nowhere nearly as much as is being said. Money Puck had us going from 24% to 22.9%. Not 24% to 0%. But just to be clear, we're 1-0-1 in our first two games with teams we're chasing. That's still been a net gain for a team that mathematicians and gamblers alike figured were about 1/3rd of the time going to lose them both, yanno?

 

[AlphaLackey]

If we can't get ahead of Dallas, we cannot make the playoffs. Thankfully there are 2 more games against them. We won the first in a shootout, they win this in overtime, so technically they're 'ahead' in terms of a tie-breaker, but not by much.

Losing in regulation in either remaining game vs Dallas means they own the tie-breaker - maybe it's meaningless, if we can leapfrog them, but it's looking less and less likely. Not a catastrophe tonight, but a missed opportunity for sure...

Losing a tiebreaker is not meaningless, of course. But at the end of the day, it is (obviously enough) worth less than a point in the standings. Still 38 games to go with lots of games in hand on teams we're chasing.

Point is, I guess, if you told me we'd start this five game Central blitz out 1-0-1, I'd be smug-Mussolini-nodding my way around the house.

 

[Ducky10]

I don’t think Scheifele was terrible, but he had nowhere near the influence on the game as Benn. 25-26 were just all around invisible.