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WolfgangPuck said:
Lambert such a bipolar player
Finns describe him as puck hogging and low IQ in Ligga , yet in past game he has shows awareness of teammates and makes great passes.
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His line mates, competition level, coaching style, etc seem to make a difference with him. He looked terrible in the summer world juniors, great in the Jets preseason, mediocre with the moose. I think he has found the right place to play for the remainder of this year and maybe next year as well. I hope he learns to eat up the whl with his speed and allow his offensive game the time and space to catch up and develop.
 
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Teppo Numenor said:
His line mates, competition level, coaching style, etc seem to make a difference with him. He looked terrible in the summer world juniors, great in the Jets preseason, mediocre with the moose. I think he has found the right place to play for the remainder of this year and maybe next year as well. I hope he learns to eat up the whl with his speed and allow his offensive game the time and space to catch up and develop.
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I think he just needs to play in the right situation to hone his game before he moves up a level.
 
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I think he just needs to play in the right situation to hone his game before he moves up a level.
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I agree. Plus I have no doubt he learned a ton playing with the Moose. There would have been performance objectives to try and attain, especially without the puck and in his own end, so he can now take that knowledge with him and light the lamp, and apply what he has learned.
 
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Im gonna just leave this game alone and move on. Sometimes even the best of teams lay an egg (except Boston).

Leave Kuhlman in Montreal, I would’ve never thought I’d be pining for Appleton.

If there was one game on this roadie I really want, it’s stomping on the Laffs.
 
Aggie204 said:
Im gonna just leave this game alone and move on. Sometimes even the best of teams lay an egg (except Boston).

Leave Kuhlman in Montreal, I would’ve never thought I’d be pining for Appleton.

If there was one game on this roadie I really want, it’s stomping on the Laffs.
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Wrong thread?
 
Because I had some time to kill before the game last night, and because I was more bored than Great Aunt Irene at Little Billy's Mario Kart tournament, I decided to go through all of the Jets 2.0's draft picks and map out how their careers have gone, and where they play now. For fun, I also did the original Jets very last draft, in 1995. Bold players are still playing for the Jets.

Enjoy, or, don't:

1995
Shane Doan (1, 7) - last played in the NHL in 2017, played 1,540 career NHL games, all with the Jets/Coyotes
Marc Chouinard (2, 32) - lasted played in 2010 in Germany’s top league, played in 320 NHL games across six seasons
Jason Doig (2, 34) - last played in 2008 in the top Swiss league, played in 158 career NHL games
Brad Isbister (3, 67) - last played in 2009 in the top Swiss league, played in 541 career NHL games
Justin Kurtz (4, 84) - last played in 2013 in the second-level German league, played 27 career NHL games, all with the Canucks in 2001-02
Brian Elder (5, 121) - last played in 2011 in the CHL (Central Hockey League, not Canadian Hockey League), highest level: CHL
Sylvain Daigle (6, 136) - last played in 2007 in the LNAH - a low-level pro league in Quebec, highest level: AHL
Paul Traynor (7, 162) - last played in 2012 in Germany’s top league, highest level: AHL
Jaroslav Obsut (8, 188) - last played in 2017 in the top Slovakian league, played seven career NHL games from 2000 to 2002
Fredrik Loven (8, 189) - last played in 2007 in the second-level Swedish league, highest level: Swedish Elite League
Robert DeCiantis (9, 214) - last played in 2006 in Ontario’s highest level semi-pro hockey league (surprised hockeyDB would include this), highest level: he played two AHL games in 1999-00 but other than that was mainly an ECHL guy

2011
Mark Scheifele (1, 7) - currently playing with the Jets
Adam Lowry (3, 67) - currently playing with the Jets
Brennan Serville (3, 78) - last played in 2016 in the ECHL, highest level: AHL
Zach Yuen (4, 119) - last played last year in the KHL, highest level: KHL (also played in the 2022 Olympics for China)
Austen Brassard (5, 149) - last played in 2019 in the ECHL, highest level: AHL
Jason Kasdorf (6, 157) - last played in 2019 in the second-level German league. Played one NHL game with Buffalo in 2016, but spent most of his pro career in the ECHL.
Aaron Harstad (7, 187) - last played last year in the ECHL, highest level: AHL

2012
Jacob Trouba (1, 9) - currently playing with the Rangers
Lukas Sutter (2, 39) - last played in 2017 in U Sports, played one season of pro split between the AHL and ECHL
Scott Kosmachuk (3, 70) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, had a cup of coffee in the NHL but was predominantly an AHL player
Connor Hellebuyck (5, 130) - currently playing with the Jets
Ryan Olsen (6, 160) - currently playing in Germany’s top league, highest level: AHL
Jamie Phillips (7, 190) - last played in 2020 in the ECHL, highest level: AHL, but he was mainly an ECHL player. Currently coaching in college

2013
Josh Morrissey (1, 13) - currently playing with the Jets
Nic Petan (2, 43) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Eric Comrie (2, 59) - currently playing with the Sabres
Jimmy Lodge (3, 84) - last played last year in the ECHL, highest level: AHL
J.C. Lipon (3, 91) - currently playing in Germany’s top league, had a cup of coffee in the NHL but was mainly an AHL player
Andrew Copp (4, 104) - currently playing for the Red Wings
Jan Kostalek (5, 114) - currently playing in top Czech league, highest level: AHL
Tucker Poolman (5, 127) - currently playing for the Canucks
Brenden Kichton (7, 190) - last played in 2020 in Austria, highest level: AHL
Marcus Karlstrom (7, 194) - currently playing in the second-level Swedish league, he’s played one game in the top league but the rest of his career has been in the second-level league.

2014
Nikolaj Ehlers (1, 9) - currently playing with the Jets
Jack Glover (3, 69) - last played in 2020 in the second-level Finnish league, played one AHL game but was mostly an ECHL player. Had a cup of coffee in the top Czech league
Chase De Leo (4, 99) - currently playing in the AHL, mainly an AHL player although he has seven NHL games to his name
Nelson Nogier (4, 101)- currently playing in the KHL, mainly an AHL player but played in 11 NHL games with the Jets
C.J. Suess (5, 129) - currently playing in the AHL, has played in a few NHL games in his career
Pavel Kraskovsky (6, 164) - currently playing in the KHL, has played his entire career with the same team over there
Matt Ustaski (7, 192) - currently playing in the “minor independent league” Southern Professional Hockey, played in one AHL game and a few ECHL games

2015
Kyle Connor (1, 17) - currently playing with the Jets
Jack Roslovic (1, 25) - currently playing with the Blue Jackets
Jansen Harkins (2, 47) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Erik Foley (3, 78) - last played in 2018 in college hockey, never played professionally, promising career derailed by injury
Michael Spacek (4, 108) - currently playing in the top Swiss league, highest level: AHL
Mason Appleton (6, 168) - currently playing for the Jets
Sami Niku (7, 198) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, highest level: NHL
Matteo Gennaro (7, 203) - currently playing in the top Slovakian league, highest level: AHL

2016
Patrik Laine (1, 2) - currently playing with the Blue Jackets
Logan Stanley (1, 18) - currently playing with the Jets
Luke Green (3, 79) - currently playing in the top Slovakian league, had some games in the AHL but could not stay healthy
Jacob Cederholm (4, 97) - last played in 2021 in the ECHL, played a few games in the AHL but mainly an ECHL player
Jordy Stallard (5, 127) - currently playing in the third-level German league, played a few games in the ECHL before moving to Canadian university hockey and now Germany
Mikhail Berdin (6, 157) - currently playing in the KHL, highest level: AHL

2017
Kristian Vesalainen (1, 24) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, highest level: NHL
Dylan Samberg (2, 43) - currently playing with the Jets
Johnathan Kovacevic (3, 74) - currently playing with the Canadiens
Santeri Virtanen (4, 105) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, has spent his entire career there
Leon Gawanke (5, 136)- currently playing in the AHL
Arvid Holm (6, 167) - currently playing in the AHL
Skyler McKenzie (7, 198) - currently playing in the top German league, highest level: AHL
Croix Evingson (7, 211) - last played last year in the ECHL, spent his entire pro career at that level

2018
David Gustafsson (2, 60) - currently playing with the Jets
Nathan Smith (3, 91) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Declan Chisholm (5, 150) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Giovanni Vallati (5, 153) - currently playing in Austria’s top league, played five games in the AHL and one season in the ECHL
Jared Moe (6, 184) - currently playing college hockey
Austin Wong (7, 215) - currently playing college hockey

2019
Ville Heinola (1, 20) - currently playing with the Jets
Simon Lundark (2, 51) - currently playing in the AHL
Henri Nikkanen (4, 113) - currently playing in the AHL
Harrison Blaisdell (5, 134) - currently playing college hockey
Logan Neaton (5, 144) - currently playing college hockey

2020
Cole Perfetti (1, 10) - currently playing with the Jets
Daniel Torgersson (2, 40) - currently playing in the AHL
Anton Johannesson (5, 133) - currently playing in the third-level Swedish league
Tyrel Bauer (6, 164) - currently playing in the AHL

2021
Chaz Lucius (1, 18) - currently playing in juniors
Nikita Chibrikov (2, 50) - currently playing in the second-level Russian league, highest level: KHL
Dmitry Kuzmin (3, 82) - currently playing in juniors
Dmitry Rashevsky (5, 146) - currently playing in the KHL

2022
Rutger McGroarty (1,14) - currently playing college hockey
Brad Lambert (1, 30) - currently playing in juniors
Elias Salomonsson (2, 55) - currently playing in the Swedish Elite League
Daniel Zhilkin (3, 77) - currently playing in juniors
Garrett Brown (4, 99) - currently playing U.S. junior hockey, committed to college hockey for this upcoming season
Fabian Wagner (6, 175) - currently playing in the Swedish Elite League
Dom DiVincentiis (7, 207) - currently playing in juniors
 
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snowkiddin said:
Because I had some time to kill before the game last night, and because I was more bored than Great Aunt Irene at Little Billy's Mario Kart tournament, I decided to go through all of the Jets 2.0's draft picks and map out how their career have gone, and where they play now. For fun, I also did the original Jets very last draft, in 1995. Bold players are still playing for the Jets.

Enjoy, or, don't:

1995
Shane Doan (1, 7) - last played in the NHL in 2017, played 1,540 career NHL games, all with the Jets/Coyotes
Marc Chouinard (2, 32) - lasted played in 2010 in Germany’s top league, played in 320 NHL games across six seasons
Jason Doig (2, 34) - last played in 2008 in the top Swiss league, played in 158 career NHL games
Brad Isbister (3, 67) - last played in 2009 in the top Swiss league, played in 541 career NHL games
Justin Kurtz (4, 84) - last played in 2013 in the second-level German league, played 27 career NHL games, all with the Canucks in 2001-02
Brian Elder (5, 121) - last played in 2011 in the CHL (Central Hockey League, not Canadian Hockey League), highest level: CHL
Sylvain Daigle (6, 136) - last played in 2007 in the LNAH - a low-level pro league in Quebec, highest level: AHL
Paul Traynor (7, 162) - last played in 2012 in Germany’s top league, highest level: AHL
Jaroslav Obsut (8, 188) - last played in 2017 in the top Slovakian league, played seven career NHL games from 2000 to 2002
Fredrik Loven (8, 189) - last played in 2007 in the second-level Swedish league, highest level: Swedish Elite League
Robert DeCiantis (9, 214) - last played in 2006 in Ontario’s highest level semi-pro hockey league (surprised hockeyDB would include this), highest level: he played two AHL games in 1999-00 but other than that was mainly an ECHL guy

2011
Mark Scheifele (1, 7) - currently playing with the Jets
Adam Lowry (3, 67) - currently playing with the Jets
Brennan Serville (3, 78) - last played in 2016 in the ECHL, highest level: AHL
Zach Yuen (4, 119) - last played last year in the KHL, highest level: KHL (also played in the 2022 Olympics for China)
Austen Brassard (5, 149) - last played in 2019 in the ECHL, highest level: AHL
Jason Kasdorf (6, 157) - last played in 2019 in the second-level German league. Played one NHL game with Buffalo in 2016, but spent most of his pro career in the ECHL.
Aaron Harstad (7, 187) - last played last year in the ECHL, highest level: AHL

2012
Jacob Trouba (1, 9) - currently playing with the Rangers
Lukas Sutter (2, 39) - last played in 2017 in U Sports, played one season of pro split between the AHL and ECHL
Scott Kosmachuk (3, 70) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, had a cup of coffee in the NHL but was predominantly an AHL player
Connor Hellebuyck (5, 130) - currently playing with the Jets
Ryan Olsen (6, 160) - currently playing in Germany’s top league, highest level: AHL
Jamie Phillips (7, 190) - last played in 2020 in the ECHL, highest level: AHL, but he was mainly an ECHL player. Currently coaching in college

2013
Josh Morrissey (1, 13) - currently playing with the Jets
Nic Petan (2, 43) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Eric Comrie (2, 59) - currently playing with the Sabres
Jimmy Lodge (3, 84) - last played last year in the ECHL, highest level: AHL
J.C. Lipon (3, 91) - currently playing in Germany’s top league, had a cup of coffee in the NHL but was mainly an AHL player
Andrew Copp (4, 104) - currently playing for the Red Wings
Jan Kostalek (5, 114) - currently playing in top Czech league, highest level: AHL
Tucker Poolman (5, 127) - currently playing for the Canucks
Brenden Kichton (7, 190) - last played in 2020 in Austria, highest level: AHL
Marcus Karlstrom (7, 194) - currently playing in the second-level Swedish league, he’s played one game in the top league but the rest of his career has been in the second-level league.

2014
Nikolaj Ehlers (1, 9) - currently playing with the Jets
Jack Glover (3, 69) - last played in 2020 in the second-level Finnish league, played one AHL game but was mostly an ECHL player. Had a cup of coffee in the top Czech league
Chase De Leo (4, 99) - currently playing in the AHL, mainly an AHL player although he has seven NHL games to his name
Nelson Nogier (4, 101)- currently playing in the KHL, mainly an AHL player but played in 11 NHL games with the Jets
C.J. Suess (5, 129) - currently playing in the AHL, has played in a few NHL games in his career
Pavel Kraskovsky (6, 164) - currently playing in the KHL, has played his entire career with the same team over there
Matt Ustaski (7, 192) - currently playing in the “minor independent league” Southern Professional Hockey, played in one AHL game and a few ECHL games

2015
Kyle Connor (1, 17) - currently playing with the Jets
Jack Roslovic (1, 25) - currently playing with the Blue Jackets
Jansen Harkins (2, 47) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Erik Foley (3, 78) - last played in 2018 in college hockey, never played professionally, promising career derailed by injury
Michael Spacek (4, 108) - currently playing in the top Swiss league, highest level: AHL
Mason Appleton (6, 168) - currently playing for the Jets
Sami Niku (7, 198) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, highest level: NHL
Matteo Gennaro (7, 203) - currently playing in the top Slovakian league, highest level: AHL

2016
Patrik Laine (1, 2) - currently playing with the Blue Jackets
Logan Stanley (1, 18) - currently playing with the Jets
Luke Green (3, 79) - currently playing in the top Slovakian league, had some games in the AHL but could not stay healthy
Jacob Cederholm (4, 97) - last played in 2021 in the ECHL, played a few games in the AHL but mainly an ECHL player
Jordy Stallard (5, 127) - currently playing in the third-level German league, played a few games in the ECHL before moving to Canadian university hockey and now Germany
Mikhail Berdin (6, 157) - currently playing in the KHL, highest level: AHL

2017
Kristian Vesalainen (1, 24) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, highest level: NHL
Dylan Samberg (2, 43) - currently playing with the Jets
Johnathan Kovacevic (3, 74) - currently playing with the Canadiens
Santeri Virtanen (4, 105) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, has spent his entire career there
Leon Gawanke (5, 136)- currently playing in the AHL
Arvid Holm (6, 167) - currently playing in the AHL
Skyler McKenzie (7, 198) - currently playing in the top German league, highest level: AHL
Croix Evingson (7, 211) - last played last year in the ECHL, spent his entire pro career at that level

2018
David Gustafsson (2, 60) - currently playing with the Jets
Nathan Smith (3, 91) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Declan Chisholm (5, 150) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Giovanni Vallati (5, 153) - currently playing in Austria’s top league, played five games in the AHL and one season in the ECHL
Jared Moe (6, 184) - currently playing college hockey
Austin Wong (7, 215) - currently playing college hockey

2019
Ville Heinola (1, 20) - currently playing with the Jets
Simon Lundark (2, 51) - currently playing in the AHL
Henri Nikkanen (4, 113) - currently playing in the AHL
Harrison Blaisdell (5, 134) - currently playing college hockey
Logan Neaton (5, 144) - currently playing college hockey

2020
Cole Perfetti (1, 10) - currently playing with the Jets
Daniel Torgersson (2, 40) - currently playing in the AHL
Anton Johannesson (5, 133) - currently playing in the third-level Swedish league
Tyrel Bauer (6, 164) - currently playing in the AHL

2021
Chaz Lucius (1, 18) - currently playing in juniors
Nikita Chibrikov (2, 50) - currently playing in the second-level Russian league, highest level: KHL
Dmitry Kuzmin (3, 82) - currently playing in juniors
Dmitry Rashevsky (5, 146) - currently playing in the KHL

2022
Rutger McGroarty (1,14) - currently playing college hockey
Brad Lambert (1, 30) - currently playing in juniors
Elias Salomonsson (2, 55) - currently playing in the Swedish Elite League
Daniel Zhilkin (3, 77) - currently playing in juniors
Garrett Brown (4, 99) - currently playing U.S. junior hockey, committed to college hockey for this upcoming season
Fabian Wagner (6, 175) - currently playing in the Swedish Elite League
Dom DiVincentiis (7, 207) - currently playing in juniors
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so, out of every 1st round pick with the 2.0 Jets, only one isn't playing in the NHL (minus the younger guys)...I mean, that's pretty impressive
 
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2016
Patrik Laine (1, 2) - currently playing with the Blue Jackets
Logan Stanley (1, 18) - currently playing with the Jets
Luke Green (3, 79) - currently playing in the top Slovakian league, had some games in the AHL but could not stay healthy
Jacob Cederholm (4, 97) - last played in 2021 in the ECHL, played a few games in the AHL but mainly an ECHL player
Jordy Stallard (5, 127) - currently playing in the third-level German league, played a few games in the ECHL before moving to Canadian university hockey and now Germany
Mikhail Berdin (6, 157) - currently playing in the KHL, highest level: AHL

2017
Kristian Vesalainen (1, 24) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, highest level: NHL
Dylan Samberg (2, 43) - currently playing with the Jets
Johnathan Kovacevic (3, 74) - currently playing with the Canadiens
Santeri Virtanen (4, 105) - currently playing in the Finnish Elite League, has spent his entire career there
Leon Gawanke (5, 136)- currently playing in the AHL
Arvid Holm (6, 167) - currently playing in the AHL
Skyler McKenzie (7, 198) - currently playing in the top German league, highest level: AHL
Croix Evingson (7, 211) - last played last year in the ECHL, spent his entire pro career at that level

2018
David Gustafsson (2, 60) - currently playing with the Jets
Nathan Smith (3, 91) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Declan Chisholm (5, 150) - currently playing in the AHL, highest level: NHL
Giovanni Vallati (5, 153) - currently playing in Austria’s top league, played five games in the AHL and one season in the ECHL
Jared Moe (6, 184) - currently playing college hockey
Austin Wong (7, 215) - currently playing college hockey
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Outside of Samberg, who may or may not be more than a bottom-pairing d-man. The 2016 draft (after no-brainer Laine) all the way through 2018 looks pretty putrid. Stanley seems like no more than a number 6 or 7 defenseman, Gustafsson looks like a below average 4th liner (might turn into something better given this is his draft plus 5 season) and the rest of the picks looks like nothing more than career minor leaguers/occasional NHLers (ie Kovacevic) although there might be a small hope for Chisholm.

This is where the Jets current lack of depth on the third line stems. 2016-18 and possibly '19 looks like a giant dead zone due to poor drafting and lack of picks.
 
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I wonder what could have happened after 2016. A certain director of amateur scouting retired. Also doesn't help that the Jets were looking like playoff contenders for three of those years. Still, you have to pull something out of the depth rounds, and can't just rely on your first rounders. Jets haven't been able to effectively do that.
 
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I wonder what could have happened after 2016. A certain director of amateur scouting retired. Also doesn't help that the Jets were looking like playoff contenders for three of those years. Still, you have to pull something out of the depth rounds, and can't just rely on your first rounders. Jets haven't been able to effectively do that.
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It looks like they went for big and potential power those drafts and this org doesn't know how to draft and develop those types well.

Their niche is smart and skilled and they have a good track record with those types of players. Really only Trouba fit the bill of big and physical player with tools that turned into a good player for us. Most of the others haven't done much.

I'm glad we seem to have gone back to the smart and skilled template since 2019.
 
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Lambert is listed as a scratch tonight, not sure what the deal is there. Sick maybe?
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My hope - the coach commented about WJHC guys (they have 3 of them) being really tired...travel etc.

Makes little sense to healthy scratch him after 2 good games.
 
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