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Barlow with 2 goals last night. Now has 27 goals in 33 games, with 12 goals and 7 assists in his last 10 games.
What do you do with this kid next year? Not much to gain from another year dominating juniors, and he seems physically mature...

FWIW, he has the same PPG as Ehlers did in his D+1 and they had him in the NHL the next season. Maybe break Barlow in on Lowry's wing and have him supplement PP2?

Gotta think McG will be pushing for a spot too, but is AHL eligible

Interesting times
 

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What do you do with this kid next year? Not much to gain from another year dominating juniors, and he seems physically mature...

FWIW, he has the same PPG as Ehlers did in his D+1 and they had him in the NHL the next season. Maybe break Barlow in on Lowry's wing and have him supplement PP2?

Gotta think McG will be pushing for a spot too, but is AHL eligible

Interesting times
And Chibrikov and Lambert are close to making the club.
 
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What do you do with this kid next year? Not much to gain from another year dominating juniors, and he seems physically mature...

FWIW, he has the same PPG as Ehlers did in his D+1 and they had him in the NHL the next season. Maybe break Barlow in on Lowry's wing and have him supplement PP2?

Gotta think McG will be pushing for a spot too, but is AHL eligible

Interesting times

Ehlers had ppg of 1.98 in D+1
Barlow has ppg of 1.24 in D+1
Not the same. Not even close.

But considering Barlow's health hampered start, he is looking like he might be too good for the OHL next season.

Playing in Europe next year might be an option.
 

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What do you do with this kid next year? Not much to gain from another year dominating juniors, and he seems physically mature...

FWIW, he has the same PPG as Ehlers did in his D+1 and they had him in the NHL the next season. Maybe break Barlow in on Lowry's wing and have him supplement PP2?

Gotta think McG will be pushing for a spot too, but is AHL eligible

Interesting times
It's NHL or OHL for Barlow next season. I expect he'll be back in the OHL and also play in the World Juniors, as Scheifele did (and others like Robertson and Stankoven). He's more physically mature than Scheifele was, but with the Jets having a deep F group and McGroarty, Chibrikov, Lambert and maybe Lucius in the pipeline, it's hard to see how Barlow jumps straight into the NHL.

I don't think another OHL season will be a big detriment. If he really impresses in camp, maybe he gets several NHL games, but I really don't see him in an NHL lineup next season.
 

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Ehlers had ppg of 1.98 in D+1
Barlow has ppg of 1.24 in D+1
Not the same. Not even close.

But considering Barlow's health hampered start, he is looking like he might be too good for the OHL next season.

Playing in Europe next year might be an option.

Ehlers also upped his game to the tune of 31p in 14 games for Halifax in the playoffs. Was a one man wrecking machine.

He can use some time rounding out his offensive game. Elite elite goal scorer, could work on his passing and playmaking.

Don't think the Jets would want him in the hands of a Euro club who would be trying to win and not trying to develop.
 

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Ehlers also upped his game to the tune of 31p in 14 games for Halifax in the playoffs. Was a one man wrecking machine.

He can use some time rounding out his offensive game. Elite elite goal scorer, could work on his passing and playmaking.

Don't think the Jets would want him in the hands of a Euro club who would be trying to win and not trying to develop.
Also, Ehlers joined the Jets in 2015/16 when they were clearly in a youth movement, not competing for a deep playoff run. The Jets have a deep, competitive roster and it's going to be a slower progression by young players into the lineup at this stage.
 

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Also, Ehlers joined the Jets in 2015/16 when they were clearly in a youth movement, not competing for a deep playoff run. The Jets have a deep, competitive roster and it's going to be a slower progression by young players into the lineup at this stage.

Yup, and I think Rutger is going to be pushing hard for a spot to the point they may make a move this offseason. They'll need some ELC's coming in eventually, but that's probably more of a 25-26 timeline when Barlow is out of the OHL anyways.
 

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It's NHL or OHL for Barlow next season. I expect he'll be back in the OHL and also play in the World Juniors, as Scheifele did (and others like Robertson and Stankoven). He's more physically mature than Scheifele was, but with the Jets having a deep F group and McGroarty, Chibrikov, Lambert and maybe Lucius in the pipeline, it's hard to see how Barlow jumps straight into the NHL.

I don't think another OHL season will be a big detriment. If he really impresses in camp, maybe he gets several NHL games, but I really don't see him in an NHL lineup next season.
I cant see him getting any games ahead of lambert, chib, or McGroot. Just doesn’t make sense, he is going straight back to jr.
 

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Ehlers had ppg of 1.98 in D+1
Barlow has ppg of 1.24 in D+1
Not the same. Not even close.

But considering Barlow's health hampered start, he is looking like he might be too good for the OHL next season.

Playing in Europe next year might be an option.
Barlow needs another year in Owen Sound IMO. No need to rush him or risk his development curve in Europe.
Tbh, I see him as a trade chip for some reason.
 

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What do you do with this kid next year? Not much to gain from another year dominating juniors, and he seems physically mature...

FWIW, he has the same PPG as Ehlers did in his D+1 and they had him in the NHL the next season. Maybe break Barlow in on Lowry's wing and have him supplement PP2?

Gotta think McG will be pushing for a spot too, but is AHL eligible

Interesting times

While the goal totals look elite, the overall point production isn't that elite. Unless he goes off in the 2nd half of the season I think he still has a lot to learn in juniors.
 

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Barlow needs another year in Owen Sound IMO. No need to rush him or risk his development curve in Europe.
Tbh, I see him as a trade chip for some reason.

I was beginning to wonder about him but he has turned it around very well since getting healthy. I've added him to my (nearly) untouchable list with Salmon and McG.

But I agree he needs another year with OS. Let him dominate a bit and work on his weak areas. If he is really kicking at the door next TC maybe try to give him a few games before sending him down. But roster limitations may make that difficult to do.
 
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Ehlers had ppg of 1.98 in D+1
Barlow has ppg of 1.24 in D+1
Not the same. Not even close.

But considering Barlow's health hampered start, he is looking like he might be too good for the OHL next season.

Playing in Europe next year might be an option.
Something I've noticed watching Barlow in the OHL, he's not driving his line at all and he's used as the 3rd best forward. 3v3 and 4v4 his regular linemates are the first ones on, he's on the second unit. Regular strength it's his linemates controlling the play until they can find him. I'd like to see him be the driver on his team in the OHL before concluding that he's too good for it.
 

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Something I've noticed watching Barlow in the OHL, he's not driving his line at all and he's used as the 3rd best forward. 3v3 and 4v4 his regular linemates are the first ones on, he's on the second unit. Regular strength it's his linemates controlling the play until they can find him. I'd like to see him be the driver on his team in the OHL before concluding that he's too good for it.
I’ve watched him quite a few times and he’s never shown to be a driver. He’s got some good 2 way ability, he reads the play well and is good at finding open ice but he’s doesn’t seem to be dynamic enough to drive his line.
To me he looks to be a complementary winger for a guy like Scheifele.
 

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I’ve watched him quite a few times and he’s never shown to be a driver. He’s got some good 2 way ability, he reads the play well and is good at finding open ice but he’s doesn’t seem to be dynamic enough to drive his line.
To me he looks to be a complementary winger for a guy like Scheifele.
Yeah I'd just like to see if he can be that guy at the OHL level, like even if he can't he can come in as a great complementary player, but if he can it would add more dimensions to his game. The drivers on that team are overagers so I'd expect him to be the go to guy next year.
 
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Yeah I'd just like to see if he can be that guy at the OHL level, like even if he can't he can come in as a great complementary player, but if he can it would add more dimensions to his game. The drivers on that team are overagers so I'd expect him to be the go to guy next year.
I think this is under selling Barlow a bit even though I agree that he isn't the primary play driver for Owen Sound. That's never going to be his game. He's a pure shooter and there's a reason he's captain... Because he's that damn good at it. If he plays a full season in the OHL next season he's going nuclear, 60+ goals on the board for sure.
 

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I think this is under selling Barlow a bit even though I agree that he isn't the primary play driver for Owen Sound. That's never going to be his game. He's a pure shooter and there's a reason he's captain... Because he's that damn good at it. If he plays a full season in the OHL next season he's going nuclear, 60+ goals on the board for sure.
I'd love to see that. I'm not trying to undersell him, he's elite at what he does and it's really fun to watch, I just want to see if he can be the go to guy when Goure and Burroughs move on. Spending a season at that level playing in that role would help his development a ton I think.
 

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I'd love to see that. I'm not trying to undersell him, he's elite at what he does and it's really fun to watch, I just want to see if he can be the go to guy when Goure and Burroughs move on. Spending a season at that level playing in that role would help his development a ton I think.
I agree. I think he could probably play in the NHL next season and if we were a team like Chicago, he would be in the show for sure. But another year in junior is almost certainly the best move for his development.
 

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I agree. I think he could probably play in the NHL next season and if we were a team like Chicago, he would be in the show for sure. But another year in junior is almost certainly the best move for his development.
Yeah again nothing wrong with what he does, it's very effective, but if you can give him a year where the team runs through him and he crushes it he can begin to scale it upwards to higher levels. If you throw him in now he's going from being a complementary player in the OHL straight to being a complementary player in the best league in the world. He'll be too busy trying to stick with what has worked for him to develop other areas of his game. As I see it anyways.
 

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I was beginning to wonder about him but he has turned it around very well since getting healthy. I've added him to my (nearly) untouchable list with Salmon and McG.

But I agree he needs another year with OS. Let him dominate a bit and work on his weak areas. If he is really kicking at the door next TC maybe try to give him a few games before sending him down. But roster limitations may make that difficult to do.
I believe the organization love his character and leadership qualities which make him a near untouchable until they see him at the pro level. He very well could be Mark Stone lite. Would take a pretty special offer to make him available.
 
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Anyone that follows the OHL closely have an idea how Owen Sound is situated for next season?

Will they be better situated to contend or will they be selling off over agers such as Barlow? Barlow could be an interesting piece to a team with legit Memorial Cup aspirations.
 

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It's NHL or OHL for Barlow next season. I expect he'll be back in the OHL and also play in the World Juniors, as Scheifele did (and others like Robertson and Stankoven). He's more physically mature than Scheifele was, but with the Jets having a deep F group and McGroarty, Chibrikov, Lambert and maybe Lucius in the pipeline, it's hard to see how Barlow jumps straight into the NHL.

I don't think another OHL season will be a big detriment. If he really impresses in camp, maybe he gets several NHL games, but I really don't see him in an NHL lineup next season.
Jets definitely need to make Barlow available to Team Canada, but keep McGroarty in Jetsland.
 
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I believe the organization love his character and leadership qualities which make him a near untouchable until they see him at the pro level. He very well could be Mark Stone lite. Would take a pretty special offer to make him available.

Exactly. Everyone is available for the right price, but any offer would need to consider the potential.
 

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