Post-Game Talk: Jets lose 3-2 in OT

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Howard Chuck

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Amen.

People love to stomp on someone when they are struggling, weirdly almost taking his struggling play personally with some of the posts being made.

Laine can play hockey and we know this because we have seen him play the game well. He is struggling mightily and his confidence is at an all time low. He looks lost out there because he is completely lost. He is resorting to his one trick, because he has zero confidence in anything else.

Maybe instead of acting like selfish little children throwing temper tantrums because we didn’t get a brand new XBox on Christmas, we act like appreciative and supportive fans that want to help him get over this hurdle.

Can we sticky this? :thumbu:
 
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Howard Chuck

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I wouldn't be so sure. Scheifele and Wheeler and Morrissey have a completely different off-season routine than Buff and Trouba. Dano didn't seem to have any real off-season training regimen, whereas Roslovic and Lemieux obviously have worked their tails off to get in shape and improve their speed / quickness (especially Lemieux). My guess is that they can recommend an off-season regimen, but it's up to the players as to how hard they work, and on what aspects.

I agree they all go their separate ways, but Jets Director of performance Craig Slaunwhite said last year that Laine was right on track with their multi year program and doing what he was supposed to. Laine was where he should be given his particular abilities.

So the best I can do is take his word for that.
 

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Trouba and Wheeler spent a few seasons training together in FL. Not sure what Wheeler did last year. Trouba trains with Ekblad and a few others now.
 

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I'm not even going to comment much on Laine's play, he had many scoring chances on the PP that over the last 2.5 seasons would go in, he pots a couple of those and everyone's off his back.

What I will comment on, is his demeanor. I've never seen someone who wears his emotions on his sleeve so much, he looks like a completely different player. There is no confidence in himself, when he's on he believes every shot he takes will go in. Right now, he doesn't think any shot he takes is going to go in. I miss confident Laine where he's flying around and it feels like every time he touches the puck in the offensive zone the puck might go in. He needs one to go in right now and maybe the floodgates open, the team could sure use him scoring some goals.

Talk of benching him or taking him off the PP is some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Let's base our decisions off of 20 games of struggling instead of 2.5 seasons of success, the guy is one of the best PP players in the league you don't bench him cause he's missing the net right now ffs.
 

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Helle was good. After a game like this the only positive thing is to use ignore-option on the usual hot takers. Funny how those appear only after losses and/or after some player(s) have performed less than optimal. For my part I shall lessen the admins work load and keep those guys ignored for good.
 

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Did Laine have any shots 5v5 tonight? He was ripping them on the PP but don't recall 5v5 opportunities
2 shots, 2 shot-attempts, 0 scoring chances, 0 high danger scoring chances, 13CF-21CA for 38.24% Corsi. HDCA 0-5 with him on the ice at 5v5.

Oh wait...that's Scheifele!

Laine had 1 shot, 5 shot-attempts, 4 scoring chances, 2 high danger scoring chances, 16CF-13CA for 55% Corsi. HDCA 4-1 with him on the ice at 5v5.
 

Gm0ney

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Most stats are awful stats because they are twisted to tell whatever story the writer wants to tell.

I'll stick to my big ol stinky flawed eyes. :)
The difference between stats and your eye test is that I've actually witnessed stats being right about a player at least once... :laugh:
 
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2 shots, 2 shot-attempts, 0 scoring chances, 0 high danger scoring chances, 13CF-21CA for 38.24% Corsi. HDCA 0-5 with him on the ice at 5v5.

Oh wait...that's Scheifele!

Laine had 1 shot, 5 shot-attempts, 4 scoring chances, 2 high danger scoring chances, 16CF-13CA for 55% Corsi. HDCA 4-1 with him on the ice at 5v5.
that's because scheifele probably isn't playing against 3rd pairing dmen and middle six wingers.
 
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2 shots, 2 shot-attempts, 0 scoring chances, 0 high danger scoring chances, 13CF-21CA for 38.24% Corsi. HDCA 0-5 with him on the ice at 5v5.

Oh wait...that's Scheifele!

Laine had 1 shot, 5 shot-attempts, 4 scoring chances, 2 high danger scoring chances, 16CF-13CA for 55% Corsi. HDCA 4-1 with him on the ice at 5v5.

epic. lol.
 

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that's because scheifele probably isn't playing against 3rd pairing dmen and middle six wingers.
you think it's fine for Scheifele's line to get caved in by our opponents best line?

I think it's fine to say they didn't have a good game.
 

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Did we lose PP time on that disallowed goal?
We shouldn't have. The rule is for the clock to be reset back to time of the reviewed event, if the ruling is that the event should have ended the play.

(I checked the PP time remaining after the disallowed goal (45 seconds, if memory serves), but did not bother rewinding to check the PP time remaining when 55 scored, cause it seemed about right.)
 
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This is our team
This is their year

The players go up and down throughout the grinders of 82 games.

Just like this Nashville game 3.

They support each other.
Lets do it for them :)


Go Jets Go!!!
 

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that's because scheifele probably isn't playing against 3rd pairing dmen and middle six wingers.
That might hold water against a team with no depth, but the Sharks are pretty good top to bottom. He was up against the Thornton line most of the night. His most common defensive opposition was dman Marc-Edouard Vlasic...so did you mean 3rd pairing defenseman on Canada's gold medal winning Olympic hockey team...or?
 

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Amen.

People love to stomp on someone when they are struggling, weirdly almost taking his struggling play personally with some of the posts being made.

Laine can play hockey and we know this because we have seen him play the game well. He is struggling mightily and his confidence is at an all time low. He looks lost out there because he is completely lost. He is resorting to his one trick, because he has zero confidence in anything else.

Maybe instead of acting like selfish little children throwing temper tantrums because we didn’t get a brand new XBox on Christmas, we act like appreciative and supportive fans that want to help him get over this hurdle.

I see people supporting and wanting to support him get over this. Unfortunately, when you refer to children throwing temper tandrums because we didn't blah blah blah, unfortunately I thought of Laine and his personal reactions on the ice sometimes. By the way, that makes it harder for people to be supportive. Effort is important. He needs to display more of it. If you don't score, shake it off and go make another scoring chance. If you lose the puck to someone, work to get it back. Go to the dirty areas to get lose pucks.

I am very supportive of him. He is very important to our future, including this year's playoffs. But I am greatly concerned at times about what appears to be a significant lack of work ethic.
 
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2 shots, 2 shot-attempts, 0 scoring chances, 0 high danger scoring chances, 13CF-21CA for 38.24% Corsi. HDCA 0-5 with him on the ice at 5v5.

Oh wait...that's Scheifele!

Laine had 1 shot, 5 shot-attempts, 4 scoring chances, 2 high danger scoring chances, 16CF-13CA for 55% Corsi. HDCA 4-1 with him on the ice at 5v5.

Lol, whoops!
 

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That might hold water against a team with no depth, but the Sharks are pretty good top to bottom. He was up against the Thornton line most of the night. His most common defensive opposition was dman Marc-Edouard Vlasic...so did you mean 3rd pairing defenseman on Canada's gold medal winning Olympic hockey team...or?
Thornton is 3rd line now and vlasic has been god awful this year according to sharks fans when I have gone and read some of their game day and post game threads. Either way the Laine line usually faces much easier lines and dman. He should have a little better go if it most nights
 

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I see people supporting and wanting to support him get over this. Unfortunately, when you refer to children throwing temper tandrums because we didn't blah blah blah, unfortunately I thought of Laine and his personal reactions on the ice sometimes. By the way, that makes it harder for people to be supportive. Effort is important. He needs to display more of it. If you don't score, shake it off and go make another scoring chance. If you lose the puck to someone, work to get it back. Go to the dirty areas to get lose pucks.

I am very supportive of him. He is very important to our future, including this year's playoffs. But I am greatly concerned at times about what appears to be a significant lack of work ethic.

Agree with everything you said. Laine is so down on himself, I'm sure he's a joy in the dressing room. :sarcasm: I'm sure his teammates are trying their best to be positive with him as well, but no matter how much you support someone, eventually they have to take it upon themselves to get out of their funk.

I made this comment last night...

Immediately after Laine's 3 whiffs on the PP... Scheifele scores... and the players get together to celebrate the goal ( before it was called back ). The camera shows Laine coming into the group, and I swear... I have never seen someone more unhappy after a teammate just scored than the emotion Laine showed.
 

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Agree with everything you said. Laine is so down on himself, I'm sure he's a joy in the dressing room. :sarcasm: I'm sure his teammates are trying their best to be positive with him as well, but no matter how much you support someone, eventually they have to take it upon themselves to get out of their funk.

I made this comment last night...

Immediately after Laine's 3 whiffs on the PP... Scheifele scores... and the players get together to celebrate the goal ( before it was called back ). The camera shows Laine coming into the group, and I swear... I have never seen someone more unhappy after a teammate just scored than the emotion Laine showed.

My favourite was when he got dumped in front of the Sharks' net. Play went the other way and he took a good 3 seconds to get up and shuffle off to tje bench. Guy looks more like Eeyore than Winnie!
 

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My favourite was when he got dumped in front of the Sharks' net. Play went the other way and he took a good 3 seconds to get up and shuffle off to tje bench. Guy looks more like Eeyore than Winnie!
And stuff like that doesn't cut it ever, but certainly not in the playoffs. We need to get a top 6 winger and move Laine down the lineup, if this keeps up.

And please don't take that to mean I am not supportive of him. I am very supportive of him. But the team comes above any individual player.
 

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2 shots, 2 shot-attempts, 0 scoring chances, 0 high danger scoring chances, 13CF-21CA for 38.24% Corsi. HDCA 0-5 with him on the ice at 5v5.

Oh wait...that's Scheifele!

Laine had 1 shot, 5 shot-attempts, 4 scoring chances, 2 high danger scoring chances, 16CF-13CA for 55% Corsi. HDCA 4-1 with him on the ice at 5v5.
Yup. Like I said, Laine had a decent game and is getting hammered for a puck bobble that just happened to lead to a SH goal. Fans too often remember the one big play, and forget about the overall game.
 
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Yup. Like I said, Laine had a decent game and is getting hammered for a puck bobble that just happened to lead to a SH goal. Fans too often remember the one big play, and forget about the overall game.
or fans remember the good and bad plays that players make that result in consequences.

i mean, we still talk about our #1 pizza delivery boi, do we not?
 
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