GDT: Jets landing at the Leafs - 7:00 on Sportsnet. Be Wary of Buffs

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Kamiccolo

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Man Nonis was such a terrible GM.

Clarkson Signing
Phaneuf Deal
Trading a 2nd for Holland
Trading a 2nd + 4th + for a bottom 6 center who ended up playing like 20 games.
Trading a #4 LD for a #6RD, adds a pick, and retains.

Those are just off the top of my head. Just Brutal. He set this team back years.
 

SeaOfBlue

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It's weird because Froese has been pretty solid tonight. A couple chances and made a couple good defensive plays.

Polak and Marincin have struggled though.

They are all defensive players. They are obviously going to have awful possession numbers.

Just think: If you play in the defensive zone like 60 or 70% of the time, do you really think you are not going to have many shots against and a bunch of shots for? Not really. For them, I see their defensive numbers and they are solid, except for Marincin, so I really could care less about his possession numbers.

I want Holland back in the lineup though.
 

hamzarocks

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its not our size, thats wrong, its our ****ing skill. Boyes, Grabner, Froese, PAP, Polak, Marcinin, Reimer, spaling, etc are expandable pieces that dont have a long nhl future. We dont have any of our talented players up, they are developing, besides dion, lupes, kadri, jvr, rielly, and gards who are playing really good, while hun, komo, and winny have been good. You cant beat a team with other teams castoffs and rejects, not against a team like the jets who are trying to win now
 

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We need to move JVR while he has value. Grab a 10-20 first, and a top prospect, and move one.

He's been making lazy defensive plays all night. He's a 40 point soft one way winger without Kessel.

Get rid of him, grab another winger prospect, and a first.
 

thewave

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We need to move JVR while he has value. Grab a 10-20 first, and a top prospect, and move one.

He's been making lazy defensive plays all night. He's a 40 point soft one way winger without Kessel.

Get rid of him, grab another winger prospect, and a first.

I'm down with this.
 

Kamiccolo

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I'm down with this.

Seriously. He's going to do nothing but lose value now until his next contract. We are going to need to give him like 6+ a year or he'll get in in FA.

He doesn't use his size, lazy defensively, etc. He's a top 6 winger who compliments better players, lets get some start player value for him while we can.
 

SprDaVE

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Ah yes, the puck over the glass penalty that turns into a goal almost the time...
 

Daisy Jane

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Seriously. He's going to do nothing but lose value now until his next contract. We are going to need to give him like 6+ a year or he'll get in in FA.

He doesn't use his size, lazy defensively, etc. He's a top 6 winger who compliments better players, lets get some start player value for him while we can.

are you talking about JVR?
 

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Man Nonis was such a terrible GM.

Clarkson Signing
Phaneuf Deal
Trading a 2nd for Holland
Trading a 2nd + 4th + for a bottom 6 center who ended up playing like 20 games.
Trading a #4 LD for a #6RD, adds a pick, and retains.

Those are just off the top of my head. Just Brutal. He set this team back years.

Thanks.

We all thought he was a great GM here.
 

The Thin White Duke

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Man Nonis was such a terrible GM.

Clarkson Signing
Phaneuf Deal
Trading a 2nd for Holland
Trading a 2nd + 4th + for a bottom 6 center who ended up playing like 20 games.
Trading a #4 LD for a #6RD, adds a pick, and retains.

Those are just off the top of my head. Just Brutal. He set this team back years.

The main one was keeping Holland up for 30 games to make it a 2nd. Did we really need him that badly that year?

That's the one that hurts the most, it set off a chain reaction that more or less led to us missing out on Konecny last draft.
 

I Am The Stig

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There's something about having two defensemen on a penalty kill below the goal line on one player while leaving a player wide open that bothers me.
 

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Yes. In the last handful of games, I've watched him turn the puck over, lazily skate after them, maybe swing his stick into their hands a few times. He's waiting to get a penalty doing it, and it's lazy.
If they tracked poke check success %, I'd guess JVR was bottom five in the league.
 

JackJ

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Yes. In the last handful of games, I've watched him turn the puck over, lazily skate after them, maybe swing his stick into their hands a few times. He's waiting to get a penalty doing it, and it's lazy.

JVR has always been inconsistent in the effort department.
 
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