I just through Boesser in as an example. Any 25 goal scorer would work.
Post-Game Talk: Jets go on vacation early lose 3-1
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The crazy thing about Huddy is that another team is almost assuredly going to hire him after the Jets inevitably fire him; not because of any notable merit, but because the Jets have employed him for so long.
Bad by Michael Jackson is probably the Jets defensive anthem for the past decade.
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Bad by Michael Jackson is probably the Jets defensive anthem for the past decade.
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When you have 1 guy on the team that can consistently score you are in trouble, compound that with the optics on the ice that the leadership on this team are going thru the motions and the D is still a mess and the Jets are in the position they are in.
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People need to take a good look at the players Chevy has brought into this team either by trade or free agency and say to themselves do we really want him here for another 5 years trying to fix this team.
He is part of the problem.
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Why the hell is Huddy still around? Winnipeg probably holds the record for only one coach firing in a ten year span.
Anybody have stats on that
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Yeah, I'm at the point where I don't think he deserves another coach. Maurice should never have had the chance to resign. Drafting is a positive but if we've already seen the best of the core he assembled then I don't want to see him try to fix it.
He has to have the single worst case of analysis paralysis in the league. We've called it patience in the past but at this point it shouldn't be seen as anything other than inaction. This is a f***ing cap team, how is this performance acceptable?
Well where to start on this one. I don't think the team played poorly but they didn't play great either. Once again we seem to not know what to do against a team clogging the nz which is what every Yeo team does (Its all he knows what to do). Our breakouts were an issue and we made it hard on ourselves by not getting the puck out of our end. I also felt that once again this team wasn't getting to the tough areas nearly enough and when we had our chances we failed to convert (story of the season). On the flip side it seems our mistakes always end up in our net. I didn't love the decision making on their GWG. Dubois tried to force an incredibly high risk pass to Heinola who had two Flyers around him. Heinola missed it and since he jumped up to try attack in that instance without cover it gave up a two on one. Better awareness was needed by both in that position and game state.
PK still looked really good. PP had some good looks but couldn't cash. Scheifele still far to passive on the HB and just takes such low percentage shots.
Helle: Helle played fine today, the loss wasn't on him.
JoMo/Kovacevik: This pairing played well together. I like the confidence that Kovi is showing jumping up. He was sound defensively as well. He is an NHL third pair dmen imo. Morrissey didn't show too much rust today and was looking good with the puck on his stick in the ozone, I like the creativity.
Pionk/Heinola: I thought both played pretty well. Outside the turnover on Philly's first goal I thought Pionk was moving the puck well and jumping up into the play fairly effectively. Ville had another good building game. His puck movement was once again on display and his retrievals were on point. I liked his board play tonight but he got caught on some overly aggressive pinches. He will figure out when and where to do them as he gets more experienced.
Dillion/Schmidt: I didn't love Schmidt's game at all tonight, thought he got beat defensively and one on one too easily. He also didn't do much offensively imo. Dillion took a dumb penalty and was just so so otherwise.
Copp/Scheifele/Wheeler: This line is a problem, outside of that failed two on none they just didn't generate much of anything and they need to given the minutes they play. Wheeler hustles but he just doesn't have it any longer. His carelessness on breakouts are things you expect from a rookie, not a 35 year old vet captain. He also doesn't do much in the ozone any longer at 5 on 5. Copp was great on the PK but did nothing 5 on 5 offensively. It leaves pretty much everything to Mark and he is in a major funk right now. I liked that he was back tracking and often down low in the dzone. He also had a couple good looks. Perhaps something none of have considered as of yet is that he is overwhelmed in his role and just can't carry an anchor in Wheeler and anoter player that doesn't generate much of his own offense. We saw it with JoMo last year with Poolman. Mark also looked worlds better with Fly earlier which may give some credence to this theory.
Dubois/Conner/Perfetti: This line once again played a strong game. Having said that they didn't get the types of looks they are accustomed to. I really liked Cole's game a lot tonight. I thought we started to really see that nz play driving aspect of his game emerge tonight. He's a breath of fresh air there. He was moving it quickly when needed, reversing it when needed, slowing things down and entering with patience when needed. If you want exhibit A on how to beat the trap then watch tape on what he did. One play stood out where he gets the puck standing still at the Philly blue line, instead of chipping it in he steps out, suerveys and puts a cross crease pass to Conner who is able to get past the 4 Flyers standing at the blue line and the result is an extended shift with a grade A chance. He also was once again good in his end, great play to get to take away a dangerous scamble infront and make a good read and pass to get the puck moving out of our end instead of just shooting it away. Also great assist on Conner's goal. Conner had about 4 real good looks and probably would like to do better on that one PP chance he had. He still played a strong game and was pushing play and putting a lot of pucks to the net. Dubois was his usual phyiscal two-way self but as mentioned didn't love the decision he made on their GWG.
Lowry/Stastny/Harkins/Poganski/Ves: I thought Lowry had a very effective game and was a horse on the PK. I thought the line got better once Harkins was added in the third as he gives them a speed element. He also is good at holding onto the puck and making plays with it which allows them to set up in the ozone.
Fourth line were all meh imo.
This team needs Ehlers back in the worst way, it is clearly showing our lack of offensive depth with how far Blake has declined and Mark's funk.
PK still looked really good. PP had some good looks but couldn't cash. Scheifele still far to passive on the HB and just takes such low percentage shots.
Helle: Helle played fine today, the loss wasn't on him.
JoMo/Kovacevik: This pairing played well together. I like the confidence that Kovi is showing jumping up. He was sound defensively as well. He is an NHL third pair dmen imo. Morrissey didn't show too much rust today and was looking good with the puck on his stick in the ozone, I like the creativity.
Pionk/Heinola: I thought both played pretty well. Outside the turnover on Philly's first goal I thought Pionk was moving the puck well and jumping up into the play fairly effectively. Ville had another good building game. His puck movement was once again on display and his retrievals were on point. I liked his board play tonight but he got caught on some overly aggressive pinches. He will figure out when and where to do them as he gets more experienced.
Dillion/Schmidt: I didn't love Schmidt's game at all tonight, thought he got beat defensively and one on one too easily. He also didn't do much offensively imo. Dillion took a dumb penalty and was just so so otherwise.
Copp/Scheifele/Wheeler: This line is a problem, outside of that failed two on none they just didn't generate much of anything and they need to given the minutes they play. Wheeler hustles but he just doesn't have it any longer. His carelessness on breakouts are things you expect from a rookie, not a 35 year old vet captain. He also doesn't do much in the ozone any longer at 5 on 5. Copp was great on the PK but did nothing 5 on 5 offensively. It leaves pretty much everything to Mark and he is in a major funk right now. I liked that he was back tracking and often down low in the dzone. He also had a couple good looks. Perhaps something none of have considered as of yet is that he is overwhelmed in his role and just can't carry an anchor in Wheeler and anoter player that doesn't generate much of his own offense. We saw it with JoMo last year with Poolman. Mark also looked worlds better with Fly earlier which may give some credence to this theory.
Dubois/Conner/Perfetti: This line once again played a strong game. Having said that they didn't get the types of looks they are accustomed to. I really liked Cole's game a lot tonight. I thought we started to really see that nz play driving aspect of his game emerge tonight. He's a breath of fresh air there. He was moving it quickly when needed, reversing it when needed, slowing things down and entering with patience when needed. If you want exhibit A on how to beat the trap then watch tape on what he did. One play stood out where he gets the puck standing still at the Philly blue line, instead of chipping it in he steps out, suerveys and puts a cross crease pass to Conner who is able to get past the 4 Flyers standing at the blue line and the result is an extended shift with a grade A chance. He also was once again good in his end, great play to get to take away a dangerous scamble infront and make a good read and pass to get the puck moving out of our end instead of just shooting it away. Also great assist on Conner's goal. Conner had about 4 real good looks and probably would like to do better on that one PP chance he had. He still played a strong game and was pushing play and putting a lot of pucks to the net. Dubois was his usual phyiscal two-way self but as mentioned didn't love the decision he made on their GWG.
Lowry/Stastny/Harkins/Poganski/Ves: I thought Lowry had a very effective game and was a horse on the PK. I thought the line got better once Harkins was added in the third as he gives them a speed element. He also is good at holding onto the puck and making plays with it which allows them to set up in the ozone.
Fourth line were all meh imo.
This team needs Ehlers back in the worst way, it is clearly showing our lack of offensive depth with how far Blake has declined and Mark's funk.
Didn't mind the effort, but Heinola....
Dubois never should have made that pass either. Both players at fault but I think the more experienced one should be held to the higher standard.
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Really?? PLD is our next franchise player... DeMelo and Pionk/Heinola were nice trades, etc... Schmidt and Dillon were solid trades because he knew Maurice was just not going to play the young guys.
Its not Chevy's fault that Maurice just didn't 'like' some players and therefore didn't give them a shot - i.e. Hayes - and he overvalued 'sand' - i.e. Eakins and Hendricks
Its not an excuse - its just a fact that Winnipeg is about as far down the top destination list as you can get... yet Chevy almost landed Mark Stone.
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3-4 people winning anywhere from 2 to 4 times is a little strange, I kind of wonder if there's a Competition Act audit in True North's future.
Yup those two are a problem when played together. We get into tight games and they play more and play their craptastic chip and chase game. I think both are ok when split up and placed with players who are playing Lowry's game. Wheeler was fine earlier with Dubois and Conner and cnformed, Scheifele was starting to look good with Ehlers and Stastny. The two just can't play with each other, they enable a return to the old status quo. They absolutely need to be separated, better yet one traded.
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Its baffling that Poganski passed Harkins on the DC... or that Ves is in the lineup and Svech is benched. That being said, not sure either one really change things if we keep this same line construction.
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Yes. And I'd defend Stanley, too. We need offense, and some of our best scoring chances this game were D stepping up while we have full possession. The far forward is supposed to rotate back to cover, and that didn't happen.
Some people's kids...
We did not lose this game by anything to do with defence. We scored only 1 goal. EOS
We scored on the first shot of the game and then got shut out for 59.5 minutes. By the
Flyers! 30 some shots without a goal.
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PLD so far good they need to sign him long term if this is what he is going to give the team game in game out, as for Pionk he is not having a very good season and we don't know yet what we have in Heinola, DeMelo is a 5-6 Dillon is a 5-6 and Schmidt can't play D to save his life. Bringing Hayes here was a waste of a pick, Eakin was a joke and the Jets had no chance in hell to get Mark Stone. One deep playoff series in 10 years it's time for Chevy to go
I'm at the point where I don't care if they lose out. Get the high pick, find a coach, and then make some leadership decisions. I want the keys turned over to Dubois and co. If Mark and Blake don't like it they can be shown the door.
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I watch these postgame shows (Illegal Curve and Kenny & Renny) well after they're streamed but I'd recommend them to anyone who thinks that TSN/Sportsnet's postgame coverage is lacking
One of the funnier moments from tonight's regarding Jets depth scoring, specifically Lowry as 3rd line C.
One of the funnier moments from tonight's regarding Jets depth scoring, specifically Lowry as 3rd line C.
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It wasn't a great read but this team is struggling to score goals. It seems the dmen have been given more latitude to make things happen in the ozone. JoMo as of late as been pulling a lot of dangles and spin moves to create space and shooting opportunities. None are what I would consider safe plays. It is just a matter of what level of risk you are ok with. I don't really blame Ville for wanting to try to make an offensive play, he's an offensive dmen and I want him getting confident trying stuff. I think this was a good learning experience for him.
I'm at the point where I am ok giving our kids learning opportunities as it doesn't seem our vets can get it done this year. So for me most things are about next year.
I don't know about that, I thought Cole made a number of good nz plays in the third period and was one of the reasons we got zone time.
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Doesn't fit the current narrative, but I thought Scheifele had a good game. I saw a real effort towards defensive responsibility. He was also showing some jump in the o zone.
The critism regarding long shifts is deserved, but at least it shows competitive spirit. I'd be more worried if he was going off early.
Perimeter play was an issue, but he's not a crash and bang type player. He's going to have to play his own game and that of his linemates.
We need to get Scheifele better wingers. Wheeler hasn't looked good this season for whatever reason and Copp never had any offensive ability. Even Gretzky couldn't have scored with those guys.
The critism regarding long shifts is deserved, but at least it shows competitive spirit. I'd be more worried if he was going off early.
Perimeter play was an issue, but he's not a crash and bang type player. He's going to have to play his own game and that of his linemates.
We need to get Scheifele better wingers. Wheeler hasn't looked good this season for whatever reason and Copp never had any offensive ability. Even Gretzky couldn't have scored with those guys.
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