Prospect Info: Jets draft RW Dmitri Rashevsky - 5th Round, 146th overall

[Adam da bomb]

Yeah, hard to imagine him foregoing a larger and tax free salary in a culture that he is comfy in for a puny taxable salary in a culture that he is unfamiliar with. Not many of us would go for door #2.

But chances are door 2 gets you on jets faster. When ves came over they still wanted to serve his time on Moose and that’s a guy who went in the first round.

 

[Oilpeg]

First, he needs to continue the pace this year and prove he's not just on an early season heater. I think it's smart of him to stay for one more year after this. If he does continue to light it up this year and can do it again next year, his value to the Jets is even higher, upping is ELC offer. And on the Jets side, if he continues to play well in the KHL, it's free development for the club and when he does come over, he should be ready to step right into the lineup.

 

[larmex99]

But chances are door 2 gets you on jets faster. When ves came over they still wanted to serve his time on Moose and that’s a guy who went in the first round.

I guess we will see how this ends up in a few years.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

First, he needs to continue the pace this year and prove he's not just on an early season heater. I think it's smart of him to stay for one more year after this. If he does continue to light it up this year and can do it again next year, his value to the Jets is even higher, upping is ELC offer. And on the Jets side, if he continues to play well in the KHL, it's free development for the club and when he does come over, he should be ready to step right into the lineup.

The KHL hasn't shown itself to be a particularly good development league. The Kiprizov's are exceptions, not the rule. I would much prefer to see him in the AHL next year.

 

[Sweech]

But chances are door 2 gets you on jets faster. When ves came over they still wanted to serve his time on Moose and that’s a guy who went in the first round.

Maybe. But look at how we handle players.

I think we could all agree someone like Gus is good enough for the NHL right now but will likely be playing in the A based simply on the fact that he isn’t waiver eligible.

Overall this might not even be the worst development path for himself.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Could always entice him to the NHL by trading his rights to Florida or New York.

Get us a first rounder or something. Heard New York has a dmen named Troubla they need to unload.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Maybe. But look at how we handle players.

I think we could all agree someone like Gus is good enough for the NHL right now but will likely be playing in the A based simply on the fact that he isn’t waiver eligible.

Overall this might not even be the worst development path for himself.

Agree. Leaving a league where he's playing for a top team on a nice deal for the chance to bus around the A while hoping next year's team has an open spot in the top 9 and a coaching staff whose trust he can earn doesn't seem like the smart move now.

 

[KingBogo]

Maybe. But look at how we handle players.

I think we could all agree someone like Gus is good enough for the NHL right now but will likely be playing in the A based simply on the fact that he isn’t waiver eligible.

Overall this might not even be the worst development path for himself.

How the organization treats players seems to have been a very big plus this off season for getting guys like Schmidt to sign with the Jets. Are you wanting an organization that rushes prospects like Atlanta did or an organization that development their prospects until they are ready to take on roles? Mature organizations aren't worried about having their prospects fighting for their roles instead of being fearful they have to gift them to have players want to stay.

 

[Adam da bomb]

How the organization treats players seems to have been a very big plus this off season for getting guys like Schmidt to sign with the Jets. Are you wanting an organization that rushes prospects like Atlanta did or an organization that development their prospects until they are ready to take on roles? Mature organizations aren't worried about having their prospects fighting for their roles instead of being fearful they have to gift them to have players want to stay.

But Nash was unnecessary. It’s a problem when the team brings in vets when our own guys are ready. Not in all cases Schmidt is much better than poolman. The same case can’t be made for Nash boo boo and a countless others. Fighting for roles is one thing, gifting them to vets from other org is another.

 

[John Agar]

Agree. Leaving a league where he's playing for a top team on a nice deal for the chance to bus around the A while hoping next year's team has an open spot in the top 9 and a coaching staff whose trust he can earn doesn't seem like the smart move now.

One thing of note 'UK... I agree with most everything you say... the AHL is no fun bus'ing around...

But air travel in Russia is no picnic and a humungous country with many time zones...

And historically air travel has been less safe... Lokomotiv and all those souls lost are a testament to that...

I think for Rashevsky this is mostly about money for the time being in the face of not cracking the top nine of the Jets, which is most certainly true...

 

[KingBogo]

But Nash was unnecessary. It’s a problem when the team brings in vets when our own guys are ready. Not in all cases Schmidt is much better than poolman. The same case can’t be made for Nash boo boo and a countless others. Fighting for roles is one thing, gifting them to vets from other org is another.

Why was Nash unnecessary? We are trying to win a cup at the NHL level. We have the Moose to develop prospects. Nash is very solid defensively and is an elite PKer which we need.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Why was Nash unnecessary? We are trying to win a cup at the NHL level. We have the Moose to develop prospects. Nash is very solid defensively and is an elite PKer which we need.

Because he’s not better than Gus. If he was better he would have shown it out there which he did not. Gus is solid defensively and I think will be a better pker as Nash is so slow now. Don’t see Nash as any better than Tomato but will be gifted position because a veteran from another club.

 

[KingBogo]

Because he’s not better than Gus. If he was better he would have shown it out there which he did not. Gus is solid defensively and I think will be a better pker as Nash is so slow now. Don’t see Nash as any better than Tomato but will be gifted position because a veteran from another club.

You don’t think Nash is better than Gus at this point in their careers. Man you have an ageism bias.

 

[Adam da bomb]

You don’t think Nash is better than Gus at this point in their careers. Man you have an ageism bias.

Man, you are just wrong. Tomato was also better than Nash in preseason. Prove to me they haven’t.

 

[gojetsgo]

Man, you are just wrong. Tomato was also better than Nash in preseason. Prove to me they haven’t.

nash was regarded as one of the best defensive 4th line centers in the game, sorry he didn't meet your standards in 3 preseason games...

 

[Adam da bomb]

nash was regarded as one of the best defensive 4th line centers in the game, sorry he didn't meet your standards in 3 preseason games...

How recent is was? Last season?

 

[gojetsgo]

How recent is was? Last season?

yes, until he got hurt right before the trade deadline. majority of this board was happy with this signing

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

Maybe. But look at how we handle players.

I think we could all agree someone like Gus is good enough for the NHL right now but will likely be playing in the A based simply on the fact that he isn’t waiver eligible.

Overall this might not even be the worst development path for himself.

If anything, this organization has shown to be an excellent path for young players to develop into regular NHL players; which it has been doing at a higher rate than most.

There is a reason Tanev chose to sign with the Jets, when he had the opportunity to sign with any team. He said he knew that our development system would get him to where he needed to be.

Part of that system is not rushing players. Gus is ready to be an NHL player at this point but he is not ready to be a full time center for an 82 game season.

A full season manning the middle, learning the position, getting top minutes will have him ready for that role next season when he replaces Nash.

We can have him up for injuries and for our playoff run, where it wouldn’t shock me to see him in our lineup.

 

[KingBogo]

Man, you are just wrong. Tomato was also better than Nash in preseason. Prove to me they haven’t.

Why don’t you look up players underlying numbers. They are easy to look up. Over the last couple years Gus is 35th on the Jets and Toni 39th out of 41 in possession numbers. Nash far exceeded this with other organizations.

 

[10Ducky10]

Why was Nash unnecessary? We are trying to win a cup at the NHL level. We have the Moose to develop prospects. Nash is very solid defensively and is an elite PKer which we need.

The main reason he is here.
His D numbers are great though.

 

[John Agar]

Ah Nash...

Only the finest horses went into his making...

And Mau' will ride this distillation of horse come rain or shine...

4th line glue...

Goes well with popcorn... beer/spirits/cilantro on cold Prairie nights...

 

[snowkiddin]

Nash is actually quite a bit better than the schmucks we usually bring in. Letestu, Hendricks, and in earlier years, Galiardi and Halischuk, were useless. Nash can actually play. Plus more depth is always good. Say you don’t sign Nash and you have Gus as your 4C and a centre goes down with an injury. Who comes up? The plan is to cook Perfetti in the AHL, so probably not him. Suess?

We have a history of signing garbage vets but Nash isn’t one of them.

 

[MyNameIsTaken]

Because he’s not better than Gus. If he was better he would have shown it out there which he did not. Gus is solid defensively and I think will be a better pker as Nash is so slow now. Don’t see Nash as any better than Tomato but will be gifted position because a veteran from another club.

Keep in mind depth outside of the lineup is still good. Just because Gus isn’t in the lineup right now doesn’t mean he won’t get a chance this season and doesn’t mean he won’t end on the roster.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Nash is actually quite a bit better than the schmucks we usually bring in. Letestu, Hendricks, and in earlier years, Galiardi and Halischuk, were useless. Nash can actually play. Plus more depth is always good. Say you don’t sign Nash and you have Gus as your 4C and a centre goes down with an injury. Who comes up? The plan is to cook Perfetti in the AHL, so probably not him. Suess?

We have a history of signing garbage vets but Nash isn’t one of them.

Not necessarily a centre if you lost one you move Copp over. We have a number of good wingers.

 

[snowkiddin]

Not necessarily a centre if you lost one you move Copp over. We have a number of good wingers.

Then you need to fill his spot. Maybe he’s on a line that’s gelling well. Maybe there’s another forward injury. Depth is always a good thing so long as the players aren’t completely useless. I don’t think Nash is. He’s certainly higher quality than the guys we usually bring in.