Post-Game Talk: Jets at Rangers 12/2/2013

[smoneil]

I'll be the "it wasn't as bad as the score made it look" guy. They didn't play great by any stretch, but there were elements that can be taken as positives. Staal had a good game, as did Del Zotto (who looks more confident on the rush than he has in two years).

Yeah, it sucks that they gave up 3 third period goals, but those goals were--a series of weird deflections that went right to an Ottawa player, a mistake by a rookie goalie for a soft soft soft goal, and an empty netter. Again, it's not like they played great, but they just had NO puck luck in that third period (and I think they were getting frustrated by the lack of calls on obvious penalties--there were at least three textbook calls that were just ignored).

Put it in the past, keep the positives and move on to the next game.

 

[Boruto]

That's a nice loss tonight. Alain needs to realize he has to play his best ****ing line up. I don't care if players are under performing. What kind of team do you think we have here that we can afford a couple of our better players sitting? We need our best players on the ice. I don't mind playing Talbot but I don't understand what the message is to Henrik playing Talbot back to back.

 

[RangersHank*]

People act like we're a good team though, that this is a game we are supposed to win.

The bottom line is, we are no better than the Jets.

They're 13-12-4 and we're 14-14.

There are no easy games for us, because frankly, we're not better than the vast majority of teams in the league. We are the definition of mediocre.

I guess youre right. I like to think we are little better than a team with their top scorer out, and we have the better goaltending and defense.

 

[Idlerlee]

Whenever I'm feeling down like this I just watch Nash try to spell Zuccarello.

That video is pretty hilarious

 

[Florida Ranger]

I picked up Kreider in fantasy so I decided to watch the game. The whole game I thought to myself, 'wow, Zuccarello is getting a lot of ice time... I'd like to see Kreider play a bit more alongside Nash"... only to notice that Kreider had tons of TOI and Hagelin and Zuccarello had 16 mins or less... (Hags with 14). I really like Zuccarello's game and I love Hagelin's grit. I think those two need more TOI. Just my interpretation after watching one game.

And although Kreider didn't get any points I was satisfied with his game, he's a good player. Nash was a tad bit invisible. Also that should have been a penalty on the Stepan breakaway takedown.

And MDZ is washed up...

You're pretty much right.

Nash seems to be invisible a lot of times unless he wants to go one on one with a defender...

 

[The Gloaming]

Whenever I'm feeling down like this I just watch Nash try to spell Zuccarello.

His attempt was almost as pathetic as the game.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I picked up Kreider in fantasy so I decided to watch the game. The whole game I thought to myself, 'wow, Zuccarello is getting a lot of ice time... I'd like to see Kreider play a bit more alongside Nash"... only to notice that Kreider had tons of TOI and Hagelin and Zuccarello had 16 mins or less... (Hags with 14). I really like Zuccarello's game and I love Hagelin's grit. I think those two need more TOI. Just my interpretation after watching one game.

And although Kreider didn't get any points I was satisfied with his game, he's a good player. Nash was a tad bit invisible. Also that should have been a penalty on the Stepan breakaway takedown.

And MDZ is washed up...

Nash was probably our best forward. He wasn't consistent but he was getting chances in spurts, probably had like 6 shots.

 

[Fataldogg]

They didn't even ****ing show up. Vancouver is far better and we took it to them. They didn't feel like even showing up today. The Rangers being mediocre doesn't excuse them to not give any effort. Garbage garbage selfish bunch of pieces of ****.

As much as I did not like Tortorella, and I thought it was time to move on, I can say the team gave in a more consistent effort under his watch.

This team is night and day every game. You never know what you're getting. And the coach has to be held responsible for that.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

So who is todays scapegoat?

Thorburn's skate.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

I'm starting to think that this team won't break one way or another. No super hot streak or cold streak. Just perpetual mediocrity.

How Rangers of them.

 

[NikC]

I can understand not buying out Richards this year if you have no better options... He's finished. He cant do anything out there.

 

[KingP]

its amazing how inconsistent we are

one game we look great. the next we look like we are dead

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Because he sucks?

How dare you!

He's young and can skate!

 

[Machinehead]

I'll be the "it wasn't as bad as the score made it look" guy. They didn't play great by any stretch, but there were elements that can be taken as positives. Staal had a good game, as did Del Zotto (who looks more confident on the rush than he has in two years).

Yeah, it sucks that they gave up 3 third period goals, but those goals were--a series of weird deflections that went right to an Ottawa player, a mistake by a rookie goalie for a soft soft soft goal, and an empty netter. Again, it's not like they played great, but they just had NO puck luck in that third period (and I think they were getting frustrated by the lack of calls on obvious penalties--there were at least three textbook calls that were just ignored).

Put it in the past, keep the positives and move on to the next game.

I get what you're saying but it's hard to keep the positives and move on when we've done this literally several times already.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

So how much toughness did we need to win that game? 4 or 5?

 

[RangersHank*]

That's a nice loss tonight. Alain needs to realize he has to play his best ****ing line up. I don't care if players are under performing. What kind of team do you think we have here that we can afford a couple of our better players sitting? We need our best players on the ice. I don't mind playing Talbot but I don't understand what the message is to Henrik playing Talbot back to back.

I agree, he isnt sending any message to Hank. Play the damn guy 5 games in a row, win or lose. He is 31 years old for gods sake, not 40. The team has to score. Stop this goalie ********. Torts used to ride Hank all season

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Cam talbot got his first dose of the listless turnover machine team tonight that plays in front of lundqvist on a nightly basis

 

[Bullseyes]

The Rangers are a mediocre team. The fact that they lost to the Jets isn't that surprising. They aren't that much, if any, better than them.

Side note, nice to see Trouba tonight.

 

[TankLarkin]

The new Madison Square Garden is a fun and easy place to play for opposing teams. Word is out.

 

[LeetchisGod]

I mentioned this in the trade thread. If you want an impact trade, one of those players has to go. Del Zotto is the easy way out. And he's not getting you a whole lot back.

Staal would be the guy for me. He's looked bad this season but still has more trade value than MDZ.

 

[Killem Dafoe]

Boyle, he is the worst fighter ever in the history of all time and matter.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

That's a nice loss tonight. Alain needs to realize he has to play his best ****ing line up. I don't care if players are under performing. What kind of team do you think we have here that we can afford a couple of our better players sitting? We need our best players on the ice. I don't mind playing Talbot but I don't understand what the message is to Henrik playing Talbot back to back.

Were you complaining when we were winning with Talbot? This is ridiculous it's not like we were playing the Blackhawks or something.

 

[NCRanger]

LOL. It went off of Thornburn's skate.

Exactly, but Thorburn didn't direct it with his skate. He didn't even try to play it; he didn't even know it was coming in his direction. It hit him and bounced into the slot. Just a stupid deflected puck.

That kind of bullcrap luck does not happen on the road anywhere as much as it happens at the Garden.

Hey, I'm not giving them any kind of pass for a disgustingly awful second period. However, this is the type game that should have gotten to OT at 2-2. Lose then, fine. Bad game. But to lose because of a stupid deflection gets old, and it happens regularly at MSG.

 

[JohnC]

So how much toughness did we need to win that game? 4 or 5?

I'd say we need a solid 6 toughness. Giving a 1 toughness every night isn't gonna cut it anymore. Getting to at least a 4 toughness will make the team so much better.

 

[nevesis]

Callahan is way too OK after losses like this. I want to see fire in his eyes. Complacent. **** this.