Post-Game Talk: Jets are a mess, lose 6-3

[Jets 31]

Up 3-0 after the 1st period and lose 6-3.

 

[RustyCat]

Didn't watch the game but checked my phone and we were up 3-0.

Checked this morning that we lost 6-3.

Aint even mad. Avs or Coyotes, doesnt matter who we play.....team is garbage and season is a wash.

 

[ryerockarola]

Listening to the interviews, Doobie and A Lowry call out the fact they are missing an "Identity" - a style to fall back on that will get them through 3 periods.
Coach comes out and states they have an identity - play hard and fast like they did in the first -
That says it all -

Pops and son apparently don't talk much off-ice about team identity if they publicly state opposing views on the matter.

and of course we have roster issues.. who's saying we don't, our bottom six is a bunch of ahlers that couldn't score if they were in a porno

Thanks for the real-life LOL, good one

 

[Duke749]

We could use a coach like Tortorella, or Patrick Roy right now. Someone with fire in the belly. I know Torts wouldn't be hired here, because he doesn't get along with Dubois.

You gave this literally zero thought. Do we not remember the rift that Dubois came from in Columbus with Torts as coach? Why risk it just to bring in a guy that yells?

Patty Roy was a complete disaster in his time in Colorado. There’s a reason he doesn’t have another coaching gig. Screaming for the sake of screaming adds nothing of substance.

Morrissey is the only guy who plays 60 minutes. Love that guy. He should tell those other two clowns wearing letters to shove them up their asses.

I agree.

I agree - but might at Lowry

Agree again. He may not be scoring, but he stills plays his game and plays it hard. But you’re asking a guy who would ideally be on your 4th line, to make a difference and that’s a tall task.

I think you can still score a lot of goals playing a more defensive style of hockey. It's obvious the Jets totally offensive style of hockey, is getting them walloped by better teams. They have to change their systems IMO.

Carolin is that way because they have very good defensemen and play as one unit. I get their games down here and i barely pay attention most of the time but that team is a legit threat to go all the way.

 

[Zippity]

Maybe the Jets can get the Ukrainian choir to do next home anthem for some MOTIVATION, or better yet let them lace up

 

[Zippity]

what? you know that the jets would still have to pay his salary if he was fired right, him resigning actually let the jets off the hook and he was lucky the jets took care of him...

Maurice will suddenly appear back in the front office

 

[jiho]

How many NHL coaches have resigned mid season? I think he was forced out myself but due to undying loyalty they allowed him to leave with grace.

Also he is one of the biggest culprits in creating this culture. It's going to take a lot to get this team out of this mess.

Totally agree that Maurice created this mess and Chevy also needs to be fired for let it getting to this point. Maurice should of been fired two years ago. The biggest joke is Maurice's final press conference when he said he was proud of the work he did. What a joke!

 

[kanadalainen]

I think I have....

Too many drinks after Beyak says Tony Nato will do that...Thanks a lot @kanadalainen...

(Cultured West London) The rain in Spain falls mainly in the (switch to cockney) Toe-Knee-Gnaw-Toe

Team-related request:

Can we have a leadership group that can tell its Bottle and Glass from its Beggar Boy's Ass?

 

[Babooch]

When the going gets tough the captain won't face the media?

 

[Jets 31]

Didn't watch the game but checked my phone and we were up 3-0.

Checked this morning that we lost 6-3.

Aint even mad. Avs or Coyotes, doesnt matter who we play.....team is garbage and season is a wash.

You missed Wheeler and Scheifele looking like 2 guys from a oldtimers team.

 

[Jets 31]

On a positive Dubois, Connor and Svech looked good, now we just need Ehlers , Copp and Perfetti back and we can put Scheifele and Wheeler back on our 3rd line and get back to winning like we were when we had those lines.

 

[Jack7222]

Morrissey is the only guy who plays 60 minutes. Love that guy. He should tell those other two clowns wearing letters to shove them up their asses.

It's really to me the main problem with the team, but it's a huge one... Scheifele seems to play like his points are literally the only thing that matters. How can the entire bench sit there watching him wave a one handed stick at a puck carrier and glide around in the dzone/nz and not feel like what's the f-ing point?

I'd love to hear what goes on in the dressing room. I just can't fathom how this could ever be a close-knit group of people who play hard for each other when your most important player has this attitude. It's impossible.

And if TNSE doesn't have the stones to shop him then what?

 

[johnnyonthspot]

I was Wheelers biggest fan for a few years, now he just seems like he thinks he’s above it all. Buh bye. Take your best bud 55 with you.

I agree on getting rid of them but there will be pain for several years while they rebuild.

 

[rkp]

didnt watch the game but caught the first intermission......must have been a complete horror show after that, like 6 straight goals, seriously!!....so much for our scoring machine line........jets definitely put the Dry Feb to bed!

 

[Mooche]

I wanna see a poganski vs. James Wright skills competition showdown. Winner wins a spot on our top line.

Safest place to take in that action to avoid being hit by a puck would be in the 4x6 net.

 

[kanadalainen]

It's really to me the main problem with the team, but it's a huge one... Scheifele seems to play like his points are literally the only thing that matters. How can the entire bench sit there watching him wave a one handed stick at a puck carrier and glide around in the dzone/nz and not feel like what's the f-ing point?

I'd love to hear what goes on in the dressing room. I just can't fathom how this could ever be a close-knit group of people who play hard for each other when your most important player has this attitude. It's impossible.

And if TNSE doesn't have the stones to shop him then what?

Good post.

A: Continued mediocrity.. this is clear.

 

[DannyGallivan]

On a positive Dubois, Connor and Svech looked good, now we just need Ehlers , Copp and Perfetti back and we can put Scheifele and Wheeler back on our 3rd line and get back to winning like we were when we had those lines.

Jets have real gems with Dubois (with all due respect to Connor, Dubois is now our best player), Connor, Perfetti, Morrissey (playing the best hockey I've ever seen him play), Pionk (a step back from previous couple of seasons but still has the tools), Lowry (in context as a limited minutes guy) and that's about it. I am not including any of the young defensemen including Stanley or Heinola because they still require the guidance of the vets and somebody other than Charlie Huddy to help them.

Everybody else is trade bait as far as I'm concerned (and those who can't be traded will hopefully be replaced by some better depth signings). This includes Ehlers who was playing poorly before his injury. I've been waiting for him to elevate his game to the 30 goal, 70 point level for some time. While often showing all-star capabilities, he is just too inconsistent.

At the very least, send a message by stripping the C and A from Wheeler and Scheifele and give the C to Dubois and the A to either Lowry or Connor.

As far as Hellebuyck is concerned, I don't want to throw out the baby with the bath water, but we need to start looking at some goaltending options at the draft table. He has looked awful this season. Hopefully it's just a blip, because he has proven that it took his Vezina Trophy form to bail out a horribly coached Jets team in the past, which hid so many sins.

 

[tbcwpg]

Jets have real gems with Dubois (with all due respect to Connor, Dubois is now our best player), Connor, Perfetti, Morrissey (playing the best hockey I've ever seen him play), Pionk (a step back from previous couple of seasons but still has the tools), Lowry (in context as a limited minutes guy) and that's about it. I am not including any of the young defensemen including Stanley or Heinola because they still require the guidance of the vets and somebody other than Charlie Huddy to help them.

Everybody else is trade bait as far as I'm concerned (and those who can't be traded will hopefully be replaced by some better depth signings). This includes Ehlers who was playing poorly before his injury. I've been waiting for him to elevate his game to the 30 goal, 70 point level for some time. While often showing all-star capabilities, he is just too inconsistent.

At the very least, send a message by stripping the C and A from Wheeler and Scheifele and give the C to Dubois and the A to either Lowry or Connor.

As far as Hellebuyck is concerned, I don't want to throw out the baby with the bath water, but we need to start looking at some goaltending options at the draft table. He has looked awful this season. Hopefully it's just a blip, because he has proven that it took his Vezina Trophy form to bail out a horribly coached Jets team in the past, which hid so many sins.

Sounds like you're calling for a rebuild.

I don't think you strip the letters. I think if you want to change the leadership team you have to move them out. Removing their letters but keeping them around is a recipe for a divided dressing room.

The team does look at draft options for goaltending, they've drafted Berdin and Holm. If this dip had happened last offseason I would've been on board with taking Wallstedt over Lucius last summer. I still am kind of 50/50 on it. I think Hellebuyck needs a coach who won't play him such a large percentage of the games.

 

[bennylundholm]

Revisiting this again.
Updated.

I know there’s lots of holes that we can poke into +- stats but over the long term they can show trends.
This is Scheifele’s +- position on the team since his first full year compared to his teammates.
2nd
2nd
1st
1st
1st
6th
11th
23rd
28th
Last (by a mile)

Looks like he's on some medication.

 

[cbcwpg]

PLD showed last night that he is more invested in this team winning than the so called leaders in 55 and 26.

Also, Lowry has more heart then most of the players on this team. He just doesn't have the skill to go with it.

 

[Jets 31]

Jets have real gems with Dubois (with all due respect to Connor, Dubois is now our best player), Connor, Perfetti, Morrissey (playing the best hockey I've ever seen him play), Pionk (a step back from previous couple of seasons but still has the tools), Lowry (in context as a limited minutes guy) and that's about it. I am not including any of the young defensemen including Stanley or Heinola because they still require the guidance of the vets and somebody other than Charlie Huddy to help them.

Everybody else is trade bait as far as I'm concerned (and those who can't be traded will hopefully be replaced by some better depth signings). This includes Ehlers who was playing poorly before his injury. I've been waiting for him to elevate his game to the 30 goal, 70 point level for some time. While often showing all-star capabilities, he is just too inconsistent.

At the very least, send a message by stripping the C and A from Wheeler and Scheifele and give the C to Dubois and the A to either Lowry or Connor.

As far as Hellebuyck is concerned, I don't want to throw out the baby with the bath water, but we need to start looking at some goaltending options at the draft table. He has looked awful this season. Hopefully it's just a blip, because he has proven that it took his Vezina Trophy form to bail out a horribly coached Jets team in the past, which hid so many sins.

I agree with alot here but trading Ehlers would be a mistake, well i guess it depends who you get back but Ehlers is one of our few players with great speed. Colorado skated us into the ground with their speed and how they attack with speed. I honestly was starting to feel sorry for Scheifele, Wheeler and Stastny because they couldn't remotely keep up.Totally agree about Helly, he needs a rest. I could see playing him so much if Comrie was god awful but Comrie has been good AND has been able to pick up wins . Playing Helly so much is just stupid in this case.

 

[King Woodballs]

Season is over, and it’s time to sell assets off.

Last night clearly showed the jets a no where near the upper class of this division or the league.

Hell I would argue they may not even middle class.

 

[kanadalainen]

As far as Hellebuyck is concerned, I don't want to throw out the baby with the bath water, but we need to start looking at some goaltending options at the draft table. He has looked awful this season. Hopefully it's just a blip, because he has proven that it took his Vezina Trophy form to bail out a horribly coached Jets team in the past, which hid so many sins.

I think Hellebuyck needs a coach who won't play him such a large percentage of the games.

Hellebuyck is being played into the dirt. Far too many games at this point in time, and he needs more rest. Play Comrie more please.

 

[surixon]

Listening to the interviews, Doobie and A Lowry call out the fact they are missing an "Identity" - a style to fall back on that will get them through 3 periods.
Coach comes out and states they have an identity - play hard and fast like they did in the first -
That says it all -

Yup, clearly the players and coach aren't on the same page. Also playing hard and fast isn't an identity. It's far too broad a concept.

 

[DannyGallivan]

I agree with alot here but trading Ehlers would be a mistake, well i guess it depends who you get back but Ehlers is one of our few players with great speed. Colorado skated us into the ground with their speed and how they attack with speed. I honestly was starting to feel sorry for Scheifele, Wheeler and Stastny because they couldn't remotely keep up.Totally agree about Helly, he needs a rest. I could see playing him so much if Comrie was god awful but Comrie has been good AND has been able to pick up wins . Playing Helly so much is just stupid in this case.

I include Ehlers in the case of a rebuild. He has high trade value. Scheifele is still recognized for his sublime offensive gifts and we can get a ton for him as well.

My only caveat is if we can show patience and far better judgement than we have had in the past when it comes to replacing the coaching staff. Totally clean house behind the bench. Wipe that slate clean. Bring in a totally new group and see what they can do with the talent on the roster for the first quarter of next season.

If not, we will continue to be right around the "almost make the playoffs" to " out in the first round" for the foreseeable future.