jgimp
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They will just sign him for free in 2 years
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Friedman: Jets and Rutger McGroarty are not talking - his name is coming up in trade talks
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We already had that with Laine and PLD.
Will you? People are offering 2nds and late 1sts. Better off spending the next 2 years looking to change his mind or see if you can use him as a piece in a deadline deal.
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Unfortunately, there are trade protections in place... But Brock Nelson and Ryan Pulock are two players Isles HFBoards have considered moving for a retool kind of trade. Both grew up close to Winnipeg Pulock (Dauphin, MB) and Nelson (Warroad, MN). But not sure that would be enough to have them waive.
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Jets needs are 2C and top 4 RHD
Something around Pulock and Ehlers has already been discussed. Not sure if it can be opened up further to include a prospect like McGroarty. Also, not even sure if Winnipeg is focused on adding veterans like Nelson or Pulock or looking to go younger themselves.
Been there done that. See PLD.
I think this is a nothing burger story BUT if this is a negotiation tactic by McGroarty's side to get traded it wont be to force a trade to Montreal LOL. Undoubtedly it will be to join one of his buddies (Gauthier in Anaheim).
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Canadian teams know the risks of drafting American born players but continue to do so anyways.
And Philadelphia.
Carolina too
I guess we can't forget about Justin Schultz in Anaheim either
But I understand the point you're trying to make. Canada sucks and is undeserving
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"Included in trade talks" sounds a lot like Chevy has something bigger brewing and teams are asking about Rutger as an add-on
I understand why the decision to go back to Michigan for his 3rd year would raise some eyebrows but there are other possible reasons for him doing so aside from "he'll never sign in Winnipeg"
I understand why the decision to go back to Michigan for his 3rd year would raise some eyebrows but there are other possible reasons for him doing so aside from "he'll never sign in Winnipeg"
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You must have missed the year long PLD to Montreal rumours.
Yes, 'cause fans jumping on a rumour is a fantastic guide for what a player is really worth.
Gauthier did this and returned a top RHD prospect/young player in Drysdale and a 2nd round pick.
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Kyle Connor went to UofM and is signed here long term. Connor Hellebuyck re-signed long term. Blake Wheeler captained the team for years. Dustin Byfuglien was a fan favourite. Even Jacob Trouba played here until a year before he had the freedom to move on.
Yeah that's a massive overpayment from Montreal
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How many American players have refused to sign for teams like Toronto and Vancouver?
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Yea, PV will love a guy like mcgroaty…. And I imagine mcgroaty has no issues going to Anaheim to play with his best friend cutter.
Just would be curious to see what a deal would look like or what does Winnipeg really need(we have 2+ picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd), bunch of rfas that might not have places here…. And a full prospect pool
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RHD is a weakness and I also think centres who are actually projected to be centres. We seem to draft players that play C in junior but project as wingers. Ironically the only one who looks to be a C at the NHL level is McGroarty.
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There is some validity to the argument though, although I’m not sure how you would address this. Organizations put a lot of resources into developing these guys whether it be skating and skills coaching, dieticians, academic tutoring/schooling or other (albeit some teams do nothing tbf). Maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember hearing in conversation that 1st round pick teams get monetary compensation from the drafting team (heard this way back when Marner was drafted, the Knights got a pile of cash from TO).
Those are all large investments and it can all be tossed aside because someone doesn’t like the city, the team or wants to play with their friends.
Maybe the draftee should fulfil his ELC with his draft team?
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Unfortunately, there are trade protections in place... But Brock Nelson and Ryan Pulock are two players Isles HFBoards have considered moving for a retool kind of trade. Both grew up close to Winnipeg Pulock (Dauphin, MB) and Nelson (Warroad, MN). But not sure that would be enough to have them waive.
Something around Pulock and Ehlers has already been discussed. Not sure if it can be opened up further to include a prospect like McGroarty. Also, not even sure if Winnipeg is focused on adding veterans like Nelson or Pulock or looking to go younger themselves.
I think Pulock was discussed but pretty much settled on he's building a life on LI and wouldn't waive. Nelson is probably a bit old unless they want to just kick the youth can down the road another year, but I feel like they'll want to get a bit younger this year.
I mean not only did they not draft Byfuglien or Wheeler … they were still playing in Atlanta when they acquired them.
Connor and Connor are good supporting points. That Trouba had to be moved before he even reached ufa status isn’t the positive you think it is. And Buff and Wheeler don’t apply to this discussion of Canadian teams drafting American at all - they were drafted American and joined the franchise when it was American based. Sure they extended in Winnipeg when they didn’t need to - the question isn’t whether older American players can grow to love Winnipeg, it’s whether the young ones might be more prone to seek their first ticket out more often than happens with other franchises.
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Hawks would need to talk to him and have a contract in place before pulling trigger on trade
Can't risk him walking in 2 years
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I mean snuggerud is literally doing the same thing and was taken in the same first round lol.
Every fan base falls in love with their prospects
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Trouba had those rumours following him when he was drafted too. Trouba not staying in Canada long term isn't an indictment. We got a few good seasons out of him and a trade return. We also had Canadian PLD looking for his first ticket to a "premium" market so it's not just an American player thing.
Montreal has a top 5 nightlife in North America, cheapish real estate and great for endorsements. This can’t be compared to Winnipeg
