Post-Game Talk: Jets 6 - Mild 3

AlaskaJet

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Good response after that shitty game yesterday. Jets still aren't controlling the play like we're used to them doing so. They continue the run of letting the other team cycle and create HDZ chances. Feels too much like Maurice hockey for my liking. Puck management is an issue for sure. I don't hate Stanley coming in tonight, but question the roster decision that went into it.

At least Pionk didn't have as bad a game, but his was far from the worst game I saw. That top 6 is in dire need of a shake up. They are porous defensively and are out of sync. As annoying as it is, Ehlers isn't playing any better than Vilardi to get him on to the top line. Chef's attention to detail in the DZ is waning as well, which can't carry KFC at all.

But hey, we really chose Stanley over Chisholm. Chisholm looked like an NHL defenseman. Good for him. Jets could use another puck mover on the back end. Instead, Cheveldayoff is going out to trade for one that's been tested in the rigors of the post-season.
Sir, I translate this from Finnish and you go all daaamn soft? In translaating you are sucking, but you are standing nailing it on its had!!!
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Well it's good to get another win but our 5 on 5 play is still leaving a lot to be desired imo. Someone mentioned looking like Maurice coached teams relying on goaltending and special teams but imo they are starting ro resemble Bones Dallas teams. In Dallas Bones tended to want one top line that had free reign ro do as they pleased and three lines that were instructed to play not to hurt you. That is essentially what we got now.

We have a too line that is allowed to be creative and play risky hockey. They generate some grade A chances but do they ever give them up in spades lately.

The other three lines are all playing from the same simplified playback. Get the puck to the point, set up the double layer screen for tips. Crash the net to create chaos. Seems like Bones is doing the same thing he did last year when our scoring dried up but the results seem to more positive this year and so far no public spat between Schiefele and coach on how to create offense :p.

But I do hope that as the team continues to regain its scoring touch that the coaches start adding back in more layers in our offensive schemes. Our 5 on 5 game hasn't been nearly as good as it was the first half and I think some of it is due to a simplifying of our offensive schemes. Some of it is due to our team defense loosening a bit as well.
 
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surixon

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Good response after that shitty game yesterday. Jets still aren't controlling the play like we're used to them doing so. They continue the run of letting the other team cycle and create HDZ chances. Feels too much like Maurice hockey for my liking. Puck management is an issue for sure. I don't hate Stanley coming in tonight, but question the roster decision that went into it.

At least Pionk didn't have as bad a game, but his was far from the worst game I saw. That top 6 is in dire need of a shake up. They are porous defensively and are out of sync. As annoying as it is, Ehlers isn't playing any better than Vilardi to get him on to the top line. Chef's attention to detail in the DZ is waning as well, which can't carry KFC at all.

But hey, we really chose Stanley over Chisholm. Chisholm looked like an NHL defenseman. Good for him. Jets could use another puck mover on the back end. Instead, Cheveldayoff is going out to trade for one that's been tested in the rigors of the post-season.

Yeah, he looks like he'd be an upgrade on Schmidt. One thing that is becoming apparent lately is they may not have a good handle on what they have in their young dmen. Declan could have easily been Schmidts replacement given how he's played this year.
 

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Imagine a team that's for 82 games

power play clicking
penalty kill clicking
5on5 clicking
goalie clicking
offense clicking

every game....... :)
 

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Only ehlers Perfetti get that. Plus to your point, if Connor can kill penalties why can’t ehlers?


I knew the scoring would come back, it’s a long season and slumps happen. Nice to hear the offense is heating up.
Ehlers needs to get back to doing anything right, never mind adding something to his plate.

Its hard to be harsh with a player that produces so much and is so heavily relied on for goals in Connor, which is probably why he doesn't get the same treatment as 27 and 91 when he makes poor defensive plays. Same thing as Schiefele.

That's not to say that they don't need to be better defensively. Honestly, I think those 2 get overplayed which leads them to dog it defensively.

For god sakes 55 was taking extra shifts last night in the third of a b2b and 3 in 4.

I'm not always super happy with Bones player usage, but 27 knows what he has to do to get more ice time and he's either unwilling or unable to do it. Ffs he was a train wreck last night - so many giveaways and not creating much at all.

I think Perfetti was much better last night, I sure wish that net drive would have went in for him.
 

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Believe it or not the Wild were the hottest team in the West with a 8-2-1 record and the jets beat them and the #1 team in the NHL in the last 4 days.
.So please stop with the doom and gloom comments. The Jets are going to lose so more games before the playoffs but as long as there’s no major injuries they will be fine.
Everyone understands they are going to lose games, its the way that they play in those loses sometimes that get people upset/nervous. Case in point Calgary. Getting out worked/played by a non-playoff team while blowing a 3-1 lead and giving up 4 unanswered goals is worrisome. No doom and gloom after a hard fought loss playing the right way.
 
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Ehlers needs to get back to doing anything right, never mind adding something to his plate.

Its hard to be harsh with a player that produces so much and is so heavily relied on for goals in Connor, which is probably why he doesn't get the same treatment as 27 and 91 when he makes poor defensive plays. Same thing as Schiefele.

That's not to say that they don't need to be better defensively. Honestly, I think those 2 get overplayed which leads them to dog it defensively.

For god sakes 55 was taking extra shifts last night in the third of a b2b and 3 in 4.

I'm not always super happy with Bones player usage, but 27 knows what he has to do to get more ice time and he's either unwilling or unable to do it. Ffs he was a train wreck last night - so many giveaways and not creating much at all.

I think Perfetti was much better last night, I sure wish that net drive would have went in for him.
Ya i would agree with everything here, Perfetti was good last night, Ehlers seems to be in a bit of a fog right now and Bowness didn't need to double shift Scheifele last night in the 3rd . Still the Mild came in on a bit of a hot streak and we said shoo, shoo buggar off.:nod:
 
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Jet

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Standings update, Jets 1 points behind the Avs 3 points behind the Stars with 3 games in hand on both. Stars have lost 3 straight
The thing that pisses me off is they got 2 points in that stretch
That’s why I always find it so interesting the roller coaster ride around here. The worst teams in the NHL will win 1 in 3 and the very best teams will win 2 in 3 and everyone else is between that. Yet every game lost is made to be some glaring flaw in the team and organization.
Yup. Hockey is a wild sport that can also be pretty cruel.

You can go on ridiculously unsustainable runs like the Canucks did this year, and you can also totally collapse like the Jets did last year.

Neither one of those teams were as good or bad as their records suggested.

There are so many factors that either you can't control, or we don't understand enough about.

That's why playing a dedicated effective system and staying disciplined is so important. It will never solve problems like injuries, puck luck, or confidence swings, but it can help mitigate them somewhat.

The Jets are going to need to rededicate themselves to their system over this crazy stretch of games to get them through it.

They also need to have it fully committed for playoff time as that's how we're going to be successful.

It's also kind of funny how our 5v5 play bled through to our pp , and now it seems our pp success has returned the favor.
 

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Everyone understands they are going to lose games, its the way that they play in those loses sometimes that get people upset/nervous. Case in point Calgary. Getting out worked/played by a non-playoff team while blowing a 3-1 lead and giving up 4 unanswered goals is worrisome. No doom and gloom after a hard fought loss playing the right way.
While it's understandable why people were cheezed about that game, if you look at the factors you can see why it might happen. The Flames were desperate. They're chasing a playoff spot. The Jets just beat the best team in the league in their barn. They got up 3-0 early.

The crazy thing about momentum is its like a Boulder rolling down a hill. It's easier to stop it from rolling than it is to stop it when it starts.

I also thought Hellebuyck had a very average game. He's not the reason we lost by any nature but he couldn't help the team stabilize.
 

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Are the people eating crow re: Stanley the people who think he's good or he's not?
Lol here we go again.

Stanley is a fine 6/7 d. That's it. He has his strengths and weaknesses like any player.

He did good things last night - but some loathe to give him credit when he does.

I was fine with him getting into a game as he played well enough filling in for Dillon. I also think the Jets are trying to move him, so getting him some games makes sense. I do think that Pionk should have been the one to sit after his nightmare game in Calgary though.
 

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Keep picking up points.

I think people just want to see KC get the same treatment as Ehlers. KC has been abysmal 5on5 basically since he came back from injury.

Every single stat says 55-27 is better than 55-81, but for some reason no coach wants to believe it.

Our entire top 6 at even strength is in a funk, nice to see the PP coming through now though. 82 games is a long season, you get these weird stretches. Two weeks ago we were good 5v5 but couldn't score (especially on the PP). Now we are struggling 5v5 but the PP is red hot.
 

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