Post-Game Talk: Jets 4 - Habs 2

[DRW204]

People will look for reasons to be upset about absolutely anything. Any video I've ever seen of a dog or cat doing literally ANYTHING on Instagram has people in the comments talking about how it's "abuse".

I have no idea why people are so tightly wound.

friendly banter or trash talk, especially between former teammates is normal. has anyone played sports here? esp when someone you know is on the opposing side? if this hurts ppl's feelings, id probably avoid hearing what gets actually said in-game.

They tried that last playoffs and he sunk a bottom pair with Samberg on it which is really tough to do. He was way too slow footed for the Avs. Once again he will be 27 when the playoffs start so what we see is what we get. It is HIGHLY probable he is not going to become something different.

One possible explanation they keep him around is to pick up the slack on fighting so Adam doesn’t have to do it all by himself. After the departure of Dillon Adam is otherwise alone on an Island. Stan is not much of a fighter but he is willing.

maybe scheifele is calling the shots... both from Kitchener

 

[WolfHouse]

Admittedly he is a 3rd pairing asset making $1.25 million and I usually don’t sweat the details on our 4th line and bottom pairing too much. My give a shit factor on this is about a 2 out of 10.

Normally, I would agree... but there's a pretty direct link between some of our recent losses and Stan. Vegas for example...

I'd say our 3rd pairing is more important in the playoffs given our average top 4 talent - Jomo got trapped playing shutdown and Pionk had no answers for offence - thats a huge part of our game.

My wild card prediction is that Chevy manages to pull off a trade for Matheson just before TD

maybe scheifele is calling the shots... both from Kitchener

That would be SO Winnipeg haha - like it ends up that Stan is Scheif's moms weekly canaste partners nephew

 

[DRW204]

Admittedly he is a 3rd pairing asset making $1.25 million and I usually don’t sweat the details on our 4th line and bottom pairing too much. My give a shit factor on this is about a 2 out of 10.

i don't either usually however if it's forcing morrissey and co. to be overworked i think there's concern. also, stanley is tied for the most minor penalties taken of our D group: he's played almost 500 minutes less than the guy he is tied with & evidently much lower down the depth chart/roles/responsibilities. if you standardized it by per TOI...his rate of minor penalties are more than 2x the rest of our Dmen, and one of the highest in the league of dmen w/ similar mins played.

 

[UFO]

another 2 points in the bag.

 

[ps241]

i don't either usually however if it's forcing morrissey and co. to be overworked i think there's concern. also, stanley is tied for the most minor penalties taken of our D group: he's played almost 500 minutes less than the guy he is tied with & evidently much lower down the depth chart/roles/responsibilities. if you standardized it by per TOI...his rate of minor penalties are more than 2x the rest of our Dmen, and one of the highest in the league of dmen w/ similar mins played.

Yea taking minor penalties at that rate is not acceptable.

 

[Section 325]

friendly banter or trash talk, especially between former teammates is normal. has anyone played sports here? esp when someone you know is on the opposing side? if this hurts ppl's feelings, id probably avoid hearing what gets actually said in-game.

This just in, Patrik Laine is listed as day-to-day with injured feelings.

But yes, I know exactly what you mean. I personally thought it was so obvious that they were kidding that it didn't even occur to me that someone could get upset about it. It was a fun interaction.

I play goal so I'm shielded from a lot of the "banter" between players (also because I am absolutely fricking nuts and I think opposing players tread lightly around my crease ), but it is really just a part of playing any sport.

 

[Buffdog]

Yes but only against certain teams. It is too early to play playoff style hockey but not to early to work on the details and focus on puck management. Too many less than A games lately..

I think this boils down to expectations

Realistically, there isn't a team in the league that can dominate every other team in the league over long stretches, even with their A game

There also isn't a single team that can and does being its A game every night over 82 games. Players will have bad games, and teams collectively will have bad games

When people lose sight of these things, it's easy to become frustrated when a team has a bad game or stretch of bad games (for whatever reason). Being able to collect some points during those stretches is what puts teams at the top of the standings

 

[bustamente]

Laine marches to his own beat and a little bit of a screw ball but it looks like he is trying to really fit in with the Habs, that being said he needs to produce or the French media will eat him alive.

 

[Adam da bomb]

The only frustrating thing about this team is that Stanley is still part of the line up. I’m willing and able to forgive the rest.

 

[gojetsgo]

laine just forgot to after making that joke so everyone could understand it and not take it seriously

 

[raideralex99]

The only frustrating thing about this team is that Stanley is still part of the line up. I’m willing and able to forgive the rest.

You have to admit this is funny ... every team needs a good laugh.

 

[rubikscube]

Interesting...

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[White Out 902]

Stanley will go down as one the worst first rounders we made. Not just because he's bad and we use a first-round pick on him, but because he's actively hurting the lineup by us refusing not to learn our lesson and keep trying to shoehorn this big, doofy, lanky, game-killing defenseman in our lineup.

It's reminiscent of us trying to make pavelec happen.

 

[Howard Chuck]

They know what they have in miller and coghlan so they must be trying to see if Stan can be the big physical D for the playoffs.

Why not try Heinola with a real partner for a bit? He is much faster and smarter but admittedly he needs to reps.

Anyone bent out of shape with Laine’s “flu” comments.
I guarantee you would be loving it, if he was still playing for the Jets and said that.

Not to mention it’s a joke between him and Helle.

 

[Crocket]

The fact that he is getting 2x penalties and cost us playoff games because of his bad penalties would be enough to waive him. Obviously trade him for anything you can get or waive him.

We're better without him.

We are sleeping on Coghlan, he's very skilled

DeMelo and Stanley are our liabilities right now.

 

[Flair Hay]

Stanley will go down as one the worst first rounders we made. Not just because he's bad and we use a first-round pick on him, but because he's actively hurting the lineup by us refusing not to learn our lesson and keep trying to shoehorn this big, doofy, lanky, game-killing defenseman in our lineup.

It's reminiscent of us trying to make pavelec happen.

No one laments Vesalainen as a first round pick. We gave him some extra leash being a 1st rounder. It didn't work out. So we moved on. The way it should be.

Only reason Stan gets so much shit is because, well... he is still here for some reason lol

 

[Jets 31]

No one laments Vesalainen as a first round pick. We gave him some extra leash being a 1st rounder. It didn't work out. So we moved on. The way it should be.

Only reason Stan gets so much shit is because, well... he is still here for some reason lol

And he's shity .

 

[Optimistic Cynic]

Missed the game for a family event but it sounds like it wasn't classic. Two points is always good though and counts the same as a 8-1 beatdown. At the end of the year when they total them up, nobody asks how many points came off poor efforts.

Be careful. Once you start putting family ahead of hockey, you're on a slippery slope.

 

[sipowicz]

Kind of a mediocre game, but the Habs are such a poorly constructed team that is really all it takes.

Actually thought the Habs outplayed the Jets for most of it!

Kinda sad performance for the Jets as they JUST beat a crappy team!

They better know the way in San Jose!

 

[Crocket]

We're winning the cup this year

 

[voyageur]

Eesh, Jets win 2 pages of Stanley complaints. Jets lose 3 pages of Stanley complaints.

I liked Kirby Dach's play knocking down pucks in front of Hellebuyck. Jets need that kind of grease. Lowry scored from the blue paint. Rest was PP. And an empty net.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

I think this boils down to expectations

Realistically, there isn't a team in the league that can dominate every other team in the league over long stretches, even with their A game

There also isn't a single team that can and does being its A game every night over 82 games. Players will have bad games, and teams collectively will have bad games

When people lose sight of these things, it's easy to become frustrated when a team has a bad game or stretch of bad games (for whatever reason). Being able to collect some points during those stretches is what puts teams at the top of the standings

I agree to an extent but I think it also depends are you looking big picture (i.e.) overall style of play and how some teams exploit it vs short term (i.e.) rick Ralph 10 game segments?
Making the playoffs the last few years has raised expectations. Getting tuned up and spit out as they have vs. STL., Vegas and Col in the first round has left some, such as me, perhaps not appreciating that we are lucky to have a playoff team even if they do not play a playoff style or match up well vs certain teams.
It is a marathon not a sprint that I know but I am having trouble not fast forwarding to the playoffs!

 

[Buffdog]

I agree to an extent but I think it also depends are you looking big picture (i.e.) overall style of play and how some teams exploit it vs short term (i.e.) rick Ralph 10 game segments?
Making the playoffs the last few years has raised expectations. Getting tuned up and spit out as they have vs. STL., Vegas and Col in the first round has left some, such as me, perhaps not appreciating that we are lucky to have a playoff team even if they do not play a playoff style or match up well vs certain teams.
It is a marathon not a sprint that I know but I am having trouble not fast forwarding to the playoffs!

Well said, and I understand completely

I actually really like the marathon/sprint analogy that you made. If you were to go out and watch 32 people compete in a marathon, yes.... the winner usually comes down to a sprint at the end

BUT you will spend the bulk of your time watching the race up until the sprint at the end. So why not enjoy it if your runner is doing well and is in the leading pack for most of the race?

I mean... if the only thing that's important to you is the sprint at the end, why watch the rest of the race at all? Just tune in at the 25.5 mile mark

Same applies with the Jets... if all that matters to someone is the playoffs, why watch the regular season at all? Why not just tune in in April?

 

[Jets 31]

I agree to an extent but I think it also depends are you looking big picture (i.e.) overall style of play and how some teams exploit it vs short term (i.e.) rick Ralph 10 game segments?
Making the playoffs the last few years has raised expectations. Getting tuned up and spit out as they have vs. STL., Vegas and Col in the first round has left some, such as me, perhaps not appreciating that we are lucky to have a playoff team even if they do not play a playoff style or match up well vs certain teams.
It is a marathon not a sprint that I know but I am having trouble not fast forwarding to the playoffs!

I think what you have to try to do more is put the last season out of your memory and just take it a season at a time. I was absolutely pissed the last 2 playoffs just like you at the time but i try and put it out of my memory as soon as the next training camp starts. Right now we are one of the best teams in the NHL with a 22-9-1 record.

 

[Jets 31]

Well said, and I understand completely

I actually really like the marathon/sprint analogy that you made. If you were to go out and watch 32 people compete in a marathon, yes.... the winner usually comes down to a sprint at the end

BUT you will spend the bulk of your time watching the race up until the sprint at the end. So why not enjoy it if your runner is doing well and is in the leading pack for most of the race?

I mean... if the only thing that's important to you is the sprint at the end, why watch the rest of the race at all? Just tune in at the 25.5 mile mark

Same applies with the Jets... if all that matters to someone is the playoffs, why watch the regular season at all? Why not just tune in in April?

As long as you cross the right finish line.