Value of: Jesperi Kotkaniemi

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

What is the value of Jesperi Kotkaniemi? Still relatively young has looked like he’s gotten some chances in the games I’ve viewed him but only getting 14 minutes a night and 11 last night. He’s on a long term deal at almost 5 mil a year. Is he strictly a cap dump?? Does he have value and would the Canes move him?

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[dirtydanglez]

little to no value imo. pld like return.

 

[Lockin17]

a 3rd

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Pretty sure Carolina would give him away, along with a draft pick, for free. It was a revenge signing against Montreal that now looks pretty bad.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Seems like he's playing pretty well this season, maybe carried by Necas's breakout? I don't see any reason for the Canes to trade him, would create a huge hole and that contract is pretty much market value for a middle 6 center.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

He’s contract seems buyout friendly, although insanely long cap hit would be under a mil every season. I wouldn’t mind the Flyers taking a chance on him if Carolina was willing to attach a pick to him. Maybe something like Jesperi and a 1st for Frost?

 

[jfhabs]

He’s contract seems buyout friendly, although insanely long cap hit would be under a mil every season. I wouldn’t mind the Flyers taking a chance on him if Carolina was willing to attach a pick to him. Maybe something like Jesperi and a 1st for Frost?

I think there's an age limit to have that buyout price. It might be only the last season before it goes up. Not sure if it's the current age or the age of the signing , but it's possible the buyout becomes more expensive after this year. Something to consider for sure.

 

[Frank Drebin]

He seems to have a bit of Brian savage in him

 

[Fatass]

What is the value of Jesperi Kotkaniemi? Still relatively young has looked like he’s gotten some chances in the games I’ve viewed him but only getting 14 minutes a night and 11 last night. He’s on a long term deal at almost 5 mil a year. Is he strictly a cap dump?? Does he have value and would the Canes move him?

What’s the value of a 2/3 checking centre who is hard to play against? Usually those guys come in right about the 5 per mark ad they get into later years contracts. If he was on the trade block there will be several teams interested because he’s still relatively young, has lots of term, and they’d be hoping he could produce more offence if given a shot with some cherry ice time. I’m thinking he’d return a decent prospect and a mid round pick.

 

[Stickpucker]

He’s contract seems buyout friendly, although insanely long cap hit would be under a mil every season. I wouldn’t mind the Flyers taking a chance on him if Carolina was willing to attach a pick to him. Maybe something like Jesperi and a 1st for Frost?

Never happening.

Keep dreaming.

 

[Chan790]

What is the value of Jesperi Kotkaniemi? Still relatively young has looked like he’s gotten some chances in the games I’ve viewed him but only getting 14 minutes a night and 11 last night. He’s on a long term deal at almost 5 mil a year. Is he strictly a cap dump?? Does he have value and would the Canes move him?

Considering he's on a 50 point pace, defensively strong, signed below market value of 50p. defensive centers?

He looks like he's starting to pull it together. (He's fooled us before though.) Absolutely not a cap dump. Right now, full value acquisition most likely...caveat emptor.

I expect that if he doesn't fall off this season like in past years, one of him or Drury might be moved in the offseason for best offer above a threshold. Having both and Staal is redundant for a team needing more offense upfront.

 

[bleedgreen]

The Canes aren’t attaching anything to him, definitely nothing like a first. He fills a role and isn’t expensive. He has played solid this season, he seems unlikely to drive offense but he plays a pretty heavy two way game. When Staal retires that becomes KK’s job presumably, and when he’s with someone like Necas all is generally well. I could see us wanting to upgrade that spot but if they have to attach a first or high end prospect to move the guy they’d just keep him. The Canes won’t move KK mid season if that true 2C isn’t coming from the same move or a separate one at the same time so it feels more likely to be an off season thing.

We have more time with the cheap buyout but I doubt they’ll do that. 8 pts in 13 games. You’re not getting any Canes fan to say we’ll give you a first to take him away.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Flames are looking for centers, I would take chance on him.

 

[Jared Dunn]

He can be bought out either of the next two summers for 1/3 and also seems to be playing well, think the ship has sailed on there being anything close to urgency for Carolina to move him

 

[HuGort]

Seems like he's playing pretty well this season, maybe carried by Necas's breakout? I don't see any reason for the Canes to trade him, would create a huge hole and that contract is pretty much market value for a middle 6 center.

He's known to fall off though

 

[Bouboumaster]

Dvorak
one for one

Both are terrible right now and barely plays in the league, let's bring Kotkaniemi home

 

[Qwijibo]

The $20 signing bonus he got on his contract. That and a huge cap dump

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Dvorak
one for one

Both are terrible right now and barely plays in the league, let's bring Kotkaniemi home

How is Kotka terrible right now? He’s playing just fine and at a level that’s in line with his contract. Your proposal is terrible for the Canes.

 

[bleedgreen]

Dvorak
one for one

Both are terrible right now and barely plays in the league, let's bring Kotkaniemi home

If he’s playing terrible and barely in the league, may KK play this terrible the rest of his days as a Cane.

 

[My3Sons]

Based on what I saw at Whole Foods yesterday probably about 19.99/lb USD. Maybe 20% off on Prime Day.

 

[Finnen]

What is the value of Jesperi Kotkaniemi? Still relatively young has looked like he’s gotten some chances in the games I’ve viewed him but only getting 14 minutes a night and 11 last night. He’s on a long term deal at almost 5 mil a year. Is he strictly a cap dump?? Does he have value and would the Canes move him?

Keep Kotkaniemi.

 

[CTHabsfan]

Dvorak
one for one

Both are terrible right now and barely plays in the league, let's bring Kotkaniemi home

Dvorak's contract expires at the end of this season. Kotkaniemi's contract expires at the end of the 2029-30 season. I'd rather keep Dvorak.

 

[crowi]

Kotkaniemi is still cheap to buyout if necessary. Habs fans are overly invested in this player and mocking him for no reason. Move on.

For Carolina, they've seen his play for a few years now, perhaps they move on or still see his future as a defensive 3C.

 

[Slapshottothehead]

Dont really see any reason for the Canes to trade him. Hes playing well, the team is playing well. And the Canes have no one to replce him, hes not blocking a younger players spot.

 

[malcb33]

How is Kotka terrible right now? He’s playing just fine and at a level that’s in line with his contract. Your proposal is terrible for the Canes.

Dvorak is RFA after this year, so it would be 3/4 of a year of a roughly similar player and getting out of Kotkaniemi's contract for the next 5 years at $4.8M.

If Kotkaniemi was an FA, I don't see him getting that same contract anywhere else. The guy is a 30-40 point player after 6 seasons in the league.

Kotkaniemi's production shouldn't be hard to replace moving forward, so it gives the Canes flexibility, how is that a terrible thing?