Jersey Ads

[The Marquis]

Glad I got a jersey or two from every team before this happened.

 

[JadedLeaf]

Glad I got a jersey or two from every team before this happened.

What, you don't wanna be free advertising for a multi-million/billion dollar corporation? Lol

 

[Koivu11]

Several teams are only selling jerseys with the ads on them.

Anyone still want to defend this?

 

[Muffin]

Several teams are only selling jerseys with the ads on them.

Anyone still want to defend this?

Isn't that only at the team store? You can still get ones without ads from other retailers. Some people want jerseys that look exactly like the ones players wear.

 

[Icelevel]

It matches the jersey which was kind of what I was hoping at least. And it's not gambling. Strongly prefer none but at least it's not red or yellow or something more obnoxious


It's not supposed to be a brand. It was paid for by an Ontario or even Canadian dairy farmer lobbying group.

Oh I know. It’s just weird man. Like I said, imagine “Juice” on a jersey. It’s weird that they plaster “milk” all over the place. Proven to increase risk of cancer too among other things. Never mind the crazy environmental impacts. And further…not to mention all the crazy animal abuse that goes along with it. Just a messed up thing to have on there. Not that anyone cares to or wants to think about any of that.
This one aside I’m not a fan of these ads at all. Just cheapens the whole thing.

 

[IamNotADancer]

To those saying "it's just a small part and insignificant" obviously never had their dog or a cat shit on their carpet.

I'll stick to buying used jerseys on ebay.

 

[orby]

I'm not a big jersey guy, but I get the idea of wanting to show your fandom or appreciation for a team's style by wearing their jersey. However...paying $200+ to walk around wearing an ad for an insurance company or whatever is pretty embarrassing.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Isn't that only at the team store? You can still get ones without ads from other retailers. Some people want jerseys that look exactly like the ones players wear.

The one in your quote is a patch, the leafs and Washington ones for examples aren’t patches, the non patch ones look better, but still an ad.

 

[norrisnick]

The one in your quote is a patch, the leafs and Washington ones for examples aren’t patches, the non patch ones look better, but still an ad.

The Caps one is 100% a patch.

 

[Golden_Jet]

The Caps one is 100% a patch.

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Ok thanks, I know the leafs one isn’t for sure, at least doesn’t look like it.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Is that minny add real? Looks awful

 

[haseoke39]

Anyone confirming more presence/absence of these from preseason?

I saw Buffalo had none.

 

[norrisnick]

Anyone confirming more presence/absence of these from preseason?

I saw Buffalo had none.

My understanding is that it isn't necessarily a full season type deal. Teams can do chunks of games if they wanted (the gambling ones will have to be). Having or not having one at the start doesn't mean it will be that way all season.

 

[haseoke39]

My understanding is that it isn't necessarily a full season type deal. Teams can do chunks of games if they wanted (the gambling ones will have to be). Having or not having one at the start doesn't mean it will be that way all season.

f***.

 

[CF84]

Why would a shill even care? Almost no one is actually going to change their consumer habits because of shills (actual ones not the ones you keep imagining are in this thread) or advertising to any material degree. If It was as big a deal as people were claiming it is to them, then there would be mass boycotts and companies would lose money, so they would stop. If you care that much and do change your buying habits and it does nothing, then consider that you are part of a small minority of "old man yells at cloud" and accept that.

This fear mongering reminds me of the "Levi" scene from Imperium where Radcliffe's character makes fun of the henchman for wanting to boycott certain companies because of their shareholders and owners. Like he said, you'd be living in a cave if you actually acted on what you claim you care about.

Shills care because shills are paid by corporations to care. There are shills all over social media working under the name "influencer." The NHL even hired Josh Richards right in front of everyone. Social media addicts idolize shills so there is no need to hide it from those demographics. There's a poster in this thread who is trying to minimize what this means to people who literally has 60 posts, or more than 10% of the thread. Imagine "not caring" that much.

Please don't pretend to know anything about me or my buying habits. I watch every game, yet have not given any money to the NHL since they first introduced helmet ads because I knew this was the next step. I'm okay with seeing advertisements, but I am careful about who I give my money to. I'm okay with a band advertising themselves on their guitar that also has a Gibson ad/logo on it. I am not okay with supporting a band selling out to McDonalds and posting it all over their gear. The people who can't understand that difference don't have the capacity to understand the difference.

I did have plans to buy more jerseys, but that plan has changed. Helmet ads, gambling ads, and jersey ads have given me reason to spend elsewhere. Of my many hockey friends, I don't personally know one person who is okay with this. I may be part of an "old man yells at cloud" minority or maybe it's more than that. I'll never know if I stay quiet.

 

[norrisnick]

Shills care because shills are paid by corporations to care. There are shills all over social media working under the name "influencer." The NHL even hired Josh Richards right in front of everyone. Social media addicts idolize shills so there is no need to hide it from those demographics. There's a poster in this thread who is trying to minimize what this means to people who literally has 60 posts, or more than 10% of the thread. Imagine "not caring" that much.

Please don't pretend to know anything about me or my buying habits. I watch every game, yet have not given any money to the NHL since they first introduced helmet ads because I knew this was the next step. I'm okay with seeing advertisements, but I am careful about who I give my money to. I'm okay with a band advertising themselves on their guitar that also has a Gibson ad/logo on it. I am not okay with supporting a band selling out to McDonalds and posting it all over their gear. The people who can't understand that difference don't have the capacity to understand the difference.

I did have plans to buy more jerseys, but that plan has changed. Helmet ads, gambling ads, and jersey ads have given me reason to spend elsewhere. Of my many hockey friends, I don't personally know one person who is okay with this. I may be part of an "old man yells at cloud" minority or maybe it's more than that. I'll never know if I stay quiet.

By raising awareness of what the problem really is? If you stack a product on a mountain of shit, don't be shocked and upset that a bit of that shit rubs off. Or waste time arguing that the stain is the problem when you've got a whole mountain all around.

 

[The Marquis]

Wouldn't it be great if the jersey sales revenue goes down by around $6m per team for those who have the ads making them basically change nothing about revenue? That would be fun.

 

[CF84]

By raising awareness of what the problem really is? If you stack a product on a mountain of shit, don't be shocked and upset that a bit of that shit rubs off. Or waste time arguing that the stain is the problem when you've got a whole mountain all around.

Keep on defending the stain. You seem to enjoy it since you've filled 10% of the thread.

 

[norrisnick]

Keep on defending the stain. You seem to enjoy it since you've filled 10% of the thread.

I am the embodiment of that classic xkcd comic. Someone's wrong on the internet, so I can't rest. Believe me this isn't the only topic where my post count soars.

And I'm sure if you attack the stain, the mountain won't matter...

 

[North Cole]

Shills care because shills are paid by corporations to care. There are shills all over social media working under the name "influencer." The NHL even hired Josh Richards right in front of everyone. Social media addicts idolize shills so there is no need to hide it from those demographics. There's a poster in this thread who is trying to minimize what this means to people who literally has 60 posts, or more than 10% of the thread. Imagine "not caring" that much.

Please don't pretend to know anything about me or my buying habits. I watch every game, yet have not given any money to the NHL since they first introduced helmet ads because I knew this was the next step. I'm okay with seeing advertisements, but I am careful about who I give my money to. I'm okay with a band advertising themselves on their guitar that also has a Gibson ad/logo on it. I am not okay with supporting a band selling out to McDonalds and posting it all over their gear. The people who can't understand that difference don't have the capacity to understand the difference.

I did have plans to buy more jerseys, but that plan has changed. Helmet ads, gambling ads, and jersey ads have given me reason to spend elsewhere. Of my many hockey friends, I don't personally know one person who is okay with this. I may be part of an "old man yells at cloud" minority or maybe it's more than that. I'll never know if I stay quiet.

And yet for all those words you don't seem to be going to the source to actually make a change. The point wasn't that you stop giving the NHL money, that's the easiest part of the whole equation, and also has zero meaningful impact... The point was nothing changes unless you specifically target the corporations that are doing the advertising. You seem to be under the impression that withholding something from the NHL changes anything, it doesn't.

McDonalds and those big corps are going to invade other aspects of your life through advertising anyways (if they haven't already, which I'm sure they have) even if enough people get together to dissuade them from advertising on NHL jerseys. If going on a crusade against advertising actually matters, you should be boycotting McDonalds, Google, Apple, Samsung, Rogers, Verizon, Car companies, etc. so they stop advertising period. Given how our entire society is now set up in first world countries, no one can realisitically do this. That's why the slippery slop argument makes no sense to me, people would need to be living under a rock to not realize that in your daily life you are already well past the slippery slope cycle of advertising. The NHL jersey ads are not the beginning of something bad coming to get you, that movement is already 20-40 years underway and it's full speed downhill with no breaks to pull. It already permeates basically every facet of our lives and getting so bent out of shape because the NHL is on board with it makes me laugh when you have allowed it 500 other ways already.

Exactly my point about shills, if people worship them, they don't need to hide or change their spots which is why your statement made no sense. Shills don't need to deceive people, you can be utterly transparent in the fact that your allegiances are bought and paid for and still influence people. The two party system is literally designed around that psychology.

 

[CF84]

And yet for all those words you don't seem to be going to the source to actually make a change. The point wasn't that you stop giving the NHL money, that's the easiest part of the whole equation, and also has zero meaningful impact... The point was nothing changes unless you specifically target the corporations that are doing the advertising. You seem to be under the impression that withholding something from the NHL changes anything, it doesn't.

McDonalds and those big corps are going to invade other aspects of your life through advertising anyways (if they haven't already, which I'm sure they have) even if enough people get together to dissuade them from advertising on NHL jerseys. If going on a crusade against advertising actually matters, you should be boycotting McDonalds, Google, Apple, Samsung, Rogers, Verizon, Car companies, etc. so they stop advertising period. Given how our entire society is now set up in first world countries, no one can realisitically do this. That's why the slippery slop argument makes no sense to me, people would need to be living under a rock to not realize that in your daily life you are already well past the slippery slope cycle of advertising. The NHL jersey ads are not the beginning of something bad coming to get you, that movement is already 20-40 years underway and it's full speed downhill with no breaks to pull. It already permeates basically every facet of our lives and getting so bent out of shape because the NHL is on board with it makes me laugh when you have allowed it 500 other ways already.

Exactly my point about shills, if people worship them, they don't need to hide or change their spots which is why your statement made no sense. Shills don't need to deceive people, you can be utterly transparent in the fact that your allegiances are bought and paid for and still influence people. The two party system is literally designed around that psychology.

Of course I don't make a difference. People make a difference though. If enough people stop buying jerseys, switch to alternative streaming, and stop going to games, the league will have no choice other than adjusting their advertising strategies.

The corporation advertising spots will just be filled by other companies when those corporations don't see a substantial uptick in sales. It's the NHL that needs to feel financial pressure from the fans and I believe that's much closer than some realize. People just need to stop buying merchandise and concessions, while using alternative methods to watch the NHL. People can make a huge difference while still enjoying their favorite teams.

I hope people do choose to make that difference, but in the grand scheme of things, there are more important things in life.

 

[123TripleDoge]

after the helmet ads I haven't given them a dime because it was obvious where it was going

 

[Torts]

Shills care because shills are paid by corporations to care. There are shills all over social media working under the name "influencer." The NHL even hired Josh Richards right in front of everyone. Social media addicts idolize shills so there is no need to hide it from those demographics. There's a poster in this thread who is trying to minimize what this means to people who literally has 60 posts, or more than 10% of the thread. Imagine "not caring" that much.

Please don't pretend to know anything about me or my buying habits. I watch every game, yet have not given any money to the NHL since they first introduced helmet ads because I knew this was the next step. I'm okay with seeing advertisements, but I am careful about who I give my money to. I'm okay with a band advertising themselves on their guitar that also has a Gibson ad/logo on it. I am not okay with supporting a band selling out to McDonalds and posting it all over their gear. The people who can't understand that difference don't have the capacity to understand the difference.

I did have plans to buy more jerseys, but that plan has changed. Helmet ads, gambling ads, and jersey ads have given me reason to spend elsewhere. Of my many hockey friends, I don't personally know one person who is okay with this. I may be part of an "old man yells at cloud" minority or maybe it's more than that. I'll never know if I stay quiet.

Just curious...where do you stand on board ads or ads on the ice? Have you painted parts of your TV white to avoid these as well?

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

New Blackhawks jersey?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

The bootlickers will still throw their money at the jerseys even with adds on em. Not a big deal for the league