It's been working. But I don't know for sure if you can taint the core product of a $30,000M business for $150M annually and come out ahead. Not everyone is as sensitive to this, but the slow burn of watching an ad skate at your every game might take some people out of it over time.
To the NHL we all are, apparently. I'm not really sure of the point you're trying to make here.
This is the correct approach if you're upset by jersey ads. When I see people writing, "I'm not going to buy a jersey with an ad, I'm going to buy one without an ad", it makes me laugh. Do you really think this would stop teams from placing ads on their jerseys? That would be the best of both worlds for them. They would get the ad revenue from the sponsor and they would still make money from the fan.
NO damn wayBut it's such a small space though!
There's ads plasters all over the boards, stenciled into the ice, even digitally added into the game.
Every single aspect of the game has a sponsor, from the intermission report to a power play.
If bringing in an extra bit of ad revenue (with very minimal jersey space) helps increase player salaries, I'd say that's a worthy cause.
Like I said before, you might be right on this. But it's not an argument for us to keep consuming. It's an argument that we never should have been consuming in the first place.
That doesn't mean there should be no standards as per the transaction...the NHL has all the power in this. Our only recourse as consumers is to stop watching. There is no competing product. And we don't need you to tell us what we prefer. We know we live in a capitalist society.
Just sit back, close your eyes, and think of England?
Believe me. It is not a system I like to live in. But to draw a line in the sand regarding ads on jerseys is beyond hopeless. Every part of the product/consumer/business relationship would need to change. Basically rewriting the rules (actual or cultural) of what is and is not acceptable forms of marketing among other things.
Like wasn't a strong enough reaction for this.
Not everyone who is against the jersey ads is anti-capitalist (probably most aren't). They just don't want ads to be omnipresent. You trying to mock everyone for not seeing the wool over their eyes is misplaced id say.
Beyond hopeless to have any standards? That you can't draw a line here unless you're willing to disavow capitalism itself? This is the sillier, strawman, slippery slope fallacy argument.
There are standards, you just don't like them. The NHL has only as much power as you choose to give it. They certainly aren't going to stop taking our money if we willingly give it to them.
I'm not trying to mock anyone here. But you just spent a post listing off all the hard-earned money (assuming) you have spent on the Jets/NHL and then state you aren't a cash cow for them. That's the definition of a cash cow. And giving them money is not going to make them change.
Do you really think me not buying a jersey will change anything (which I've already resolved to do and may even give up watching the NHL)? The NHL only has as much power as I choose to give it?? Maybe if I can organize a mass boycott, then that will change things. But I myself? I have zero power in this transaction. Any individual consumer has zero power in this transaction. It would take a lot of people making a lot of noise to do anything to change the NHL's mind.
To me it is silly to make a fuss about ads on jerseys given the ads on everything else involved with NHL hockey. That that is the straw the broke the camels back. But to dissect that saying a bit... the problem is not the straw in that parable, the problem is everything else already stacked on the camel.
It's not pointless because this is a hockey forum, not a economic or political forum. If you want to discuss the problems inherent in the system which got us to that point, go somewhere else.
Not to you I guess. To me it's a symptom of a very large problem, which has infected the only thing I absolutely don't want to see ads attached to, and I'm not okay with being told that there's nothing wrong with it. On this I think me and Sparrow would agree.
You were absolutely consulted. The NHL has stated "this is this year's product" now it's up to you.
That's not a consultation. That's an ultimatum. And I made up my mind during the pandemic not to buy any more merchandise, and the gambling ads are pushing me away from watching the NHL at all. It doesn't mean people can't talk about this as if there can't be a balance between ads existing and ads being everywhere there's space for them.
No, no, no, you see, either you're burning down the federal reserve or you're tattooing the facebook logo on your retinas. There's no logical alternative.
Are we not talking about it? Not liking what someone has to say is not the same as not being allowed to talk about it.
Well if your point is that it's silly to be upset about this, then yeah that is kind of saying that you shouldn't be talking about it. We should instead be ruefully sighing about how we sleepwalked into a capitalist hellhole of our own making?
People talk about silly things all the time. As for the last part basically, yes.
